Being a Gen X child of the 80s, these were the people who in some of our favorite movies. I'm curious to see how this plays out, who was "in" and who was "out" and why.

Brings back memories. Will watch.

AgTrip said:

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Being a Gen X child of the 80s, these were the people who in some of our favorite movies. I'm curious to see how this plays out, who was "in" and who was "out" and why.

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The story of how the Brat Pack name started is ridiculous.

There's a reporter interviewing Emilio Estevez and he follows him around for a week. The guy is a good guy, so Emilio calls all his friends and they party with the reporter. They give him alcohol, expensive food, drugs, he bangs a few groupies, and they have a good time.

Then the dude writes a scathing story about how pretentious, fake, blah blah blah.

Rob Lowe wrote a chapter about it in his book.

Looking forward to ti.

Andrew McCarthy was always my favorite, mostly due to Weekend at Bernie's.

Will watch

Emilio looks just like his dad now

So I was looking up requirements to be in the Brat Pack and came across this.

An appearance in one or both of the ensemble casts of two specific films released in 1985John Hughes's The Breakfast Club and Joel Schumacher's St. Elmo's Fireis often considered the prerequisite for being a core Brat Pack member.

Emilio Estevez
Anthony Michael Hall
Rob Lowe
Andrew McCarthy
Demi Moore
Judd Nelson
Molly Ringwald
Ally Sheedy

Absent from most lists is Mare Winningham, the only principal member of either cast who never starred in any other films with any other cast members. Estevez was cited as the "unofficial president" of the Brat Pack. He and Demi Moore were once engaged. In 1999, McCarthy said he was never a member of the group: "The media made up this sort of tribe. I don't think I've seen any of these people since we finished St. Elmo's Fire."

The initial New York article covered a group of actors larger, or more inclusive, than the currently understood meaning of the term "Brat Pack". For example, he mentions cast members of Taps, including Tom Cruise and Timothy Hutton. Charlie Sheen appears in several lists more for his family relationship to Emilio Estevez and his partying than for his film work with other members.

James Spader and Robert Downey Jr. have also been considered members, and performed alongside other Brat Packers: both of them with Andrew McCarthy in Less than Zero; Spader with McCarthy in Mannequin and Pretty in Pink, with Lowe in Bad Influence, and with Ringwald in Pretty in Pink; and Downey with Anthony Michael Hall (Weird Science and Johnny Be Good; and the cast of Saturday Night Live) and with Molly Ringwald (The Pick-up Artist). Other actors who have been linked with the group include Kevin Bacon, Matthew Broderick, Jon Cryer, John Cusack, Joan Cusack, Nicolas Cage, Jami Gertz, Mary Stuart Masterson, Sean Penn, Kiefer Sutherland, and Lea Thompson. In her autobiography, Melissa Gilbert connects herself with the Brat Pack, as her social life centered on Estevez and Lowe (each of whom she was engaged to at different times).

You listed Amanda Jones and Watts but not Kieth

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Another Doug said:

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You listed Amanda Jones and Watts but not Kieth

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You lost me here. I listed them where?

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Amanda Jones - Lea Thompson
Watts - Mary Stuart Masterson
Keith - Eric Stoltz

Some Kind of Wonderful = very underrated. Duncan stole the show.

I really enjoyed it, but the vibe felt a little awkward with Estevez.

I wonder if he's the one who kind of talked badly about him in the original article.

It's too bad Ringwald and Nelson didn't show up. And anyone else find it strange there was zero mention of Anthony Michael Hall? I know he didn't ever work with McCarthy but he was definitely considered a member of the Brat Pack.

Watched it . . . meh. It seems the members of the Brat Pack that had the biggest issues with the label (McCarthy & Sheedy) are those that didn't have as good of a career as their counter-parts that went on to more success (Lowe, D.Moore, Estevez). Get over it.

Rudyjax said:

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AgTrip said:

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Being a Gen X child of the 80s, these were the people who in some of our favorite movies. I'm curious to see how this plays out, who was "in" and who was "out" and why.

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The story of how the Brat Pack name started is ridiculous.

There's a reporter interviewing Emilio Estevez and he follows him around for a week. The guy is a good guy, so Emilio calls all his friends and they party with the reporter. They give him alcohol, expensive food, drugs, he bangs a few groupies, and they have a good time.

Then the dude writes a scathing story about how pretentious, fake, blah blah blah.

Rob Lowe wrote a chapter about it in his book.

Looking forward to ti.

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The journalist stands by his actions/story in slightly amusing fashion.

https://www.vulture.com/article/hollywood-brat-pack-name-david-blum.html

This is what Stillwater was afraid of in Almost Famous.

Faustus said:

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Rudyjax said:

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AgTrip said:

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Being a Gen X child of the 80s, these were the people who in some of our favorite movies. I'm curious to see how this plays out, who was "in" and who was "out" and why.

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The story of how the Brat Pack name started is ridiculous.

There's a reporter interviewing Emilio Estevez and he follows him around for a week. The guy is a good guy, so Emilio calls all his friends and they party with the reporter. They give him alcohol, expensive food, drugs, he bangs a few groupies, and they have a good time.

Then the dude writes a scathing story about how pretentious, fake, blah blah blah.

Rob Lowe wrote a chapter about it in his book.

Looking forward to ti.

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The journalist stands by his actions/story in slightly amusing fashion.

https://www.vulture.com/article/hollywood-brat-pack-name-david-blum.html

This is what Stillwater was afraid of in Almost Famous.

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The enemy

It wasn't very good.

Guy comes off like a ****** in this one. Wow.

Andrew came across as so needy and cringe.

It was disgusting to see him change his persona depending on who he was talking with to manipulate the conversation and emotions of the situation.

I guess a chameleon can't change its stripes, hollyweirds are gonna phony…

Demi Moore tossed up a word salad that Kamala Harris would be envious of.

To add to my last post about Andrew:

Every time he met in person with someone, it's as if he put on a different version or character of himself. The 'him' character that would get the best outcome for himself with that person.

He just seemed so desperate.

Perhaps that's what the casting agents saw in him and passed on him and he lost the part, not some bratpack bs…

I thought Rob Lowe had the most entertaining interview. You could tell he was totally unfazed by the whole thing both then and now, and couldn't understand why some of them were being so whiny about it.