I thought Timely started the TVA and thus He Who Remains because he got the book from Renslayer as a kid. With no book to Timely as a kid then no He Who Remains. Other Kang variants are still out there doing stuff.

Again, none of that negates what I'm saying. The point is, the focus was heavily on Loki in the end, barely on He Who Remains/Kang, and Loki was the one left literally holding all the timelines in his hands, atop He Who Remains' throne. In other words, if Marvel is forced to pivot, that can now easily explain away He Who Remains and his variants.

In the end, I don't think Timely was a Kang variant, unless the same timeline can have many Kang's at different moments.

He Who Remains and Timely we're both from the sacred timeline. He who remains was from the 31st century and he was mocking Timely in his talk with Loki.

All of season 2 was basically a fail safe plan by He Who Remains in case Sylvie killed him. That death + having Renslayer get the TVA Manuel to Timely set Loki on a path right back to HWR, and HWR expected Loki to eventually come around to his pov and kill Sylvie to prevent time from unraveling. HWR likely used Timely because Timely resembled HWR so strongly and that would serve his purposes with Loki.

The head thingy worked on Timely though

Oh dang, good point

So I guess you can have the same person appear multiple times in the same timeline

Move on from Kang/Multiverse/Majors. It's played out. You COULD address Kang and incursions in Doctor Strange 3 and Avengers but honestly… just don't. Doctor Strange can do crazy worlds and dimensions but leave it at that. Which Avengers can you name that have anything to do with the multiverse? (Strange, Wanda, and that's it?)

Great send off for Loki. Show got better as it went on this season.

Edit: the TVA is now the anti-Kang authority. Perfect. Leave it there.

They should have stopped with the Thanos story in all honesty. All this time **** does not make for good movies or tv shows to be quite frank. Loki season 1 and 2 were fun, but I'm really just left thinking "OK, so what?". There aren't any stakes.

I loved that ending and loved this show.

Wish Sylvie had kept the hairdo from season 1

redline248 said:

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I loved that ending and loved this show.

Wish Sylvie had kept the hairdo from season 1

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They kept the Midwest town hairdo and it did not do her justice, lol

Agree with everyone who is losing interest

Loki was fun, but the Marvel, Star Wars, and other Disney+ content has been underwhelming enough for me to hit cancel on that subscription today.

Aggie_Journalist said:

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Agree with everyone who is losing interest

Loki was fun, but the Marvel, Star Wars, and other Disney+ content has been underwhelming enough for me to hit cancel on that subscription today.

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Well, we just got a letter in the mail saying Disney went out of business because of you. THanks for ruining our trip to Disney world next week, jerk!

I cancelled yesterday too. Total team effort! But in all seriousness, I enjoyed all the content they put out. Some was great (Loki and Andor) some was awful (secret invasion, BoBF, Kenobi) but I can't justify paying double when I won't have new content each week. Plus taking it away is good punishment to my kids befits holidays!

Before it launched I paid $170 or something for three years. Last year that ended and it was $87 for a year plus I got $12.50 back with Rakuten. Now it's $140 for the year? Meh. I'll sign back up when a new season releases.

Yeah I'm already paying for Hulu, so I'm just going to jump to that until they combine them.

What's the next show coming out for Disney even?

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Yeah I'm already paying for Hulu, so I'm just going to jump to that until they combine them.

What's the next show coming out for Disney even?

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Echo?

Which doesn't really move the needle for me at all. If someone comes back later and tells me that D'Onofrio kills it as Kingpin and the titular star doesn't ruin the show, then I'll check it out when I sign up for D+ in the future (yeah, add me to the list of people who have cancelled Disney).

If that's the actual end for Loki, I'd put it at #3 for main character endings behind Iron Man and Cap.

Good chance Dare Devil shows up in Echo?

All but confirmed.

Edit: or maybe confirmed. You can spot him in the trailer I think.

I'll pay pretty much whatever they charge so I can watch any Star Wars or Marvel title I want to, anytime I want to.

And Bluey.
And School House Rock.

It will be a sad day when my kids don't want to watch Bluey anymore.

There is no chance that anything in the teenage target comes close in quality

He's in the trailer for echo

redline248 said:

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It will be a sad day when my kids don't want to watch Bluey anymore.

There is no chance that anything in the teenage target comes close in quality

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My kids are in 6th grade and still watch it constantly. And we always use the name Romeo McFlourish on to-go orders. And by "we", I mean "me."

My kids aren't pleased they don't have all the bluey at their fingertips but, they aren't throwing me their tooth fairy money so they can fast forward through commercials on YouTube tv.

For those on the fence, as of now, this is Disney+'s Marvel/Star Wars 2024 slate...

Marvel's Echo
Season 1 (5 Episodes)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13966962/
January 10, 2024

Marvel's Agatha: Darkhold Diaries
Season 1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15571732/

Marvel's Ironheart
Season 1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13623126/

Marvel's Wonder Man
Season 1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21066182/

Star Wars: The Acolyte
Season 1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12262202/

Star Wars: Andor
Season 2
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9253284/

Star Wars: Skeleton Crew
Season 1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20600980/

Tom Hiddleston attempting to not spoil if Loki is in Deadpool or Avengers

(he totally is guys and sorry for the quality, I couldn’t keep up with my streaming link) pic.twitter.com/bzZ8zlgNNY

— Can I Essex His Loki Tree Serpent? (@havanesemom13) November 11, 2023

So after watching Tom’s new #LokiS2 interview on The Tonight Show I personally feel he is NOT saying Loki is done in the MCU, nor that he is leaving the MCU.

What he is saying is that the story they’ve been telling with Loki for 14 years is done, it’s concluded...
(1/5) pic.twitter.com/mVWf8Zjraj

— Ella the Hiddlestoner (@Laufeyson4eva) November 11, 2023

Crazy that Hiddleston was only 29 when he was cast as Loki. And Hemsworth was only 27. RDJ is old enough to be either of their fathers.

Any news on Young Jedi Adventures tho?

Andor season 2! Hope they land it as well as season 1.

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Andor season 2! Hope they land it as well as season 1.

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Jar Jar's cameo looks inspiring.

Yes, a much more attractive Sylvie.

Just finished the season last night. Overall I enjoyed it a good bit. It's top tier D+ MCU, but that's not saying much. I'm sorry if this has been beaten into the ground all over this thread but I didn't read it all....

Did anyone else think Victor Timely looed like Myles Garrett?

Edit for clarity b/c I don't check myself enough.....

Loki?

CowtownAg06 said:

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Just finished the season last night. Overall I enjoyed it a good bit. It's top tier D+ MCU, but that's not saying much. I'm sorry if this has been beaten into the ground all over this thread but I didn't read it all....

Did anyone else think looed like Myles Garrett?

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not to me….course that might be because he didn't try to beat Loki over the head with his time suit helmet….

Putting in a comment before I read this thread.
I thought this season was amazing, and is truly the best Marvel content going, show or movie. Its kind of stunning how much better it is.

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Again, none of that negates what I'm saying. The point is, the focus was heavily on Loki in the end, barely on He Who Remains/Kang, and Loki was the one left literally holding all the timelines in his hands, atop He Who Remains' throne. In other words, if Marvel is forced to pivot, that can now easily explain away He Who Remains and his variants.

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Yep, I think they did a good job of leaving themselves options with how to proceed. They can easily omit him if they need, or they can proceed with their original plans to feature his character.

The Porkchop Express said:

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I don't think that signifies a Majors' exit at all, completely the opposite.

Loki has taken on a benevolent, protector role. They mentioned all the Kang variants are out there and referenced the Kang on Earth 616 - which is the Quantamania Kang.

Really liked the overall message that the final delivered. You can't go back in time and fix things, and you can't change someone else to fix things - only you can change the path you're on by making the decision in the present.

Lots of homages to other great properties, including Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade with the test of faith, stepping out onto nothingness. Loki had a real Vecna from Stranger Things vibe with the hive mind thing. And some good Groundhog Day moments. I was hoping Loki would bump into Ned Ryerson, but not this time.

I really questioned why they kept Sylvie around all season, but I think in the end her purpose was to show Loki that it wasn't about anyone but him. That he had to evolve past his Season 1, found my soul mate, bit.

Also patting myself on the back for guessing the Glorious Purpose part several hours before the episode.

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Welp.

Good. Now maybe they can discontinue this ****ty storyline and work on other stuff. Loki 2 tied everything up in a nice bow to give Disney an out.

https://deadline.com/2023/12/jonathan-majors-marvel-fired-guilty-verdict-1235671790/