Anyone seen Sound of Freedom?

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To be clear, there is no hole I'm trying to dig my way out of. That's all in your head, which, frankly, doesn't concern me. I'm maintaining the same stance I've had from the jump, while simply attempting to clear the air a bit and dial things down a notch with everyone else here. If it makes you feel good to maintain the fantasy where I'm the bad guy, go right ahead. I'm simply saying, out here in the real world, that's not me.

Ah yes, the fantasy that Tim Ballard didn't save children from child human trafficking and that he's a lunatic. Got ya. Tell me, why so hot out the gate against a fella who does such a task?
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Nice timing to sticky the Mercy Project Casino night fundraiser on the Entertainment board.
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I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
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TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
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I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but just out of curiosity, was anyone rage-posting from a 4th of July barbecue where they were avoiding eye contact with people they don't know, posting longwnded angry personal rant after longwinded angry personal rant about a movie they haven't seen?

Nah, that would be crazy.

But there is one poster who escalates & derails most threads on this board into personal poop throwing, and I have no idea why that's allowed by the mods. Seems like anyone else would've been banned by now.
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Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

But Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade and is well respected and has a beautiful family, including two Hatian children he rescued and adopted? Lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.
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Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.

I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't do those things. I never even implied as much. I linked to an article that pointed out inconsistencies in his stories, and wondered how accurate the movie was in that regard. Not in a "did this even happen" kind of way, but CLEARLY in "I wonder how accurate the events of the movie are" kind of way. No different than we've done in countless discussions of dozens of other adaptations on this board.
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Microwave Onions said:

I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but just out of curiosity, was anyone rage-posting from a 4th of July barbecue where they were avoiding eye contact with people they don't know, posting longwnded angry personal rant after longwinded angry personal rant about a movie they haven't seen?

Nah, that would be crazy.

But there is one poster who escalates & derails most threads on this board into personal poop throwing, and I have no idea why that's allowed by the mods. Seems like anyone else would've been banned by now.
Or maybe he's one of two people on this board who actually make a living in Hollywood and doesn't like everyone there to be painted with the same broad brush of disdain like many here do so he tries to stand up for himself and to a lesser degree the industry in general. But because he's active on here he gets accused of derailing threads with his agenda. Sure he probably goes over the top at times but **** I do myself quite a bit and I think most people here do as well at times. And if we are being honest a lot of people, many of whom are F16 regulars, like to bash Hollywood at any chance he responds to most of those attacks.
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Know Your Enemy said:

Microwave Onions said:

I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but just out of curiosity, was anyone rage-posting from a 4th of July barbecue where they were avoiding eye contact with people they don't know, posting longwnded angry personal rant after longwinded angry personal rant about a movie they haven't seen?

Nah, that would be crazy.

But there is one poster who escalates & derails most threads on this board into personal poop throwing, and I have no idea why that's allowed by the mods. Seems like anyone else would've been banned by now.
Or maybe he's one of two people on this board who actually make a living in Hollywood and doesn't like everyone there to be painted with the same broad brush of disdain like many here do so he tries to stand up for himself and to a lesser degree the industry in general. But because he's active on here he gets accused of derailing threads with his agenda. Sure he probably goes over the top at times but **** I do myself quite a bit and I think most people here do as well at times. And if we are being honest a lot of people, many of whom are F16 regulars, like to bash Hollywood at any chance he responds to most of those attacks.
Well maybe some of that is all on them. They're largely a bunch of pretentious narcissistic Hunger Games elitists who think they know better than all of us. About everything. The most down to earth and humble ones seem to not be hate filled preachy leftists psychos...Chris Pratt, Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Jim Caviezel etc.

But when the vast majority of high profile Hollywood elite operate with a warped liberal hive mind and constantly showcase hypocrisy...it is what it is. Anyone who denies that being a freely expressing conservative could easily get you blacklisted in Hollywood is a liar.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

but Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade...lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.

Dude, you need to get off this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's super weird. You keep harping about it on F16 and on here. You listed like eight celebrities and said that if I expressed any disdain whatsoever for any of them, you might have "some" respect for me. Not that I at all care about your respect, but I thought, "Ok, I actually don't like most of these celebrities, so here's a chance to build a bridge." I then listed the reasons why I didn't like all but one of them, and thought surely that might count for something, and that we could share a connection there. But no, instead, you immediately popped over to F16 and giddily started telling people that I loved Jimmy Kimmel, conveniently leaving out the fact that I *agreed* with you on everyone else, just like you're doing now.

How do you not see how disingenuous that is?
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Know Your Enemy said:

Microwave Onions said:

I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but just out of curiosity, was anyone rage-posting from a 4th of July barbecue where they were avoiding eye contact with people they don't know, posting longwnded angry personal rant after longwinded angry personal rant about a movie they haven't seen?

Nah, that would be crazy.

But there is one poster who escalates & derails most threads on this board into personal poop throwing, and I have no idea why that's allowed by the mods. Seems like anyone else would've been banned by now.
Or maybe he's one of two people on this board who actually make a living in Hollywood and doesn't like everyone there to be painted with the same broad brush of disdain like many here do so he tries to stand up for himself and to a lesser degree the industry in general. But because he's active on here he gets accused of derailing threads with his agenda. Sure he probably goes over the top at times but **** I do myself quite a bit and I think most people here do as well at times. And if we are being honest a lot of people, many of whom are F16 regulars, like to bash Hollywood at any chance he responds to most of those attacks.
Well maybe some of that is all on them. They're largely a bunch of pretentious narcissistic Hunger Games elitists who think they know better than all of us. About everything. The most down to earth and humble ones seem to not be hate filled preachy leftists psychos...Chris Pratt, Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Jim Caviezel etc.

But when the vast majority of high profile Hollywood elite operate with a warped liberal hive mind and constantly showcase hypocrisy...it is what it is. Anyone who denies that being a freely expressing conservative could easily get you blacklisted in Hollywood is a liar.
"F16 is full of QAnon nuts who believe that JFK & Tupac are alive and coming to save America."

See how that works?
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TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

but Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade...lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.

Dude, you need to get off this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's super weird. You keep harping about it on F16 and on here. You listed like eight celebrities and said that if I expressed any disdain whatsoever for any of them, you might have "some" respect me. Not that I at all cared about your respect, but I thought, "Ok, I actually don't like most of these people, so here's a chance to build a bridge." I then listed the reasons why I didn't like all but one of them, and thought surely that might count for something, and that we could share a connection there. But no, instead, you immediately popped over to F16 and giddily started telling people that I loved Jimmy Kimmel, conveniently leaving out the fact that I *agreed* with you on everyone else, just like you're doing now.

Like, how do you not see how disingenuous that is?
No, it's not disingenuous...you refuse to call Meryl Streep and Jimmy Kimmel (two very unstable narcissistic and hate filled people) lunatics, while calling Tim Ballard a lunatic. It's hilarious.

Anyone not completely consumed in the Hollywood bubble can see how absurd that is.
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Know Your Enemy said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Know Your Enemy said:

Microwave Onions said:

I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but just out of curiosity, was anyone rage-posting from a 4th of July barbecue where they were avoiding eye contact with people they don't know, posting longwnded angry personal rant after longwinded angry personal rant about a movie they haven't seen?

Nah, that would be crazy.

But there is one poster who escalates & derails most threads on this board into personal poop throwing, and I have no idea why that's allowed by the mods. Seems like anyone else would've been banned by now.
Or maybe he's one of two people on this board who actually make a living in Hollywood and doesn't like everyone there to be painted with the same broad brush of disdain like many here do so he tries to stand up for himself and to a lesser degree the industry in general. But because he's active on here he gets accused of derailing threads with his agenda. Sure he probably goes over the top at times but **** I do myself quite a bit and I think most people here do as well at times. And if we are being honest a lot of people, many of whom are F16 regulars, like to bash Hollywood at any chance he responds to most of those attacks.
Well maybe some of that is all on them. They're largely a bunch of pretentious narcissistic Hunger Games elitists who think they know better than all of us. About everything. The most down to earth and humble ones seem to not be hate filled preachy leftists psychos...Chris Pratt, Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Jim Caviezel etc.

But when the vast majority of high profile Hollywood elite operate with a warped liberal hive mind and constantly showcase hypocrisy...it is what it is. Anyone who denies that being a freely expressing conservative could easily get you blacklisted in Hollywood is a liar.
"F16 is full of QAnon nuts who believe that JFK & Tupac are alive and coming to save America."

See how that works?


From the looks of it, though I have no idea, you have three friends. Interesting.
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Tupac is playing some killer shows with Biggie and Kurt Cobain in a remote dive bar in Saskatchewan, but you just keep believing what the mainstream media is feeding you.
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Tibbers said:

Know Your Enemy said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Know Your Enemy said:

Microwave Onions said:

I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but just out of curiosity, was anyone rage-posting from a 4th of July barbecue where they were avoiding eye contact with people they don't know, posting longwnded angry personal rant after longwinded angry personal rant about a movie they haven't seen?

Nah, that would be crazy.

But there is one poster who escalates & derails most threads on this board into personal poop throwing, and I have no idea why that's allowed by the mods. Seems like anyone else would've been banned by now.
Or maybe he's one of two people on this board who actually make a living in Hollywood and doesn't like everyone there to be painted with the same broad brush of disdain like many here do so he tries to stand up for himself and to a lesser degree the industry in general. But because he's active on here he gets accused of derailing threads with his agenda. Sure he probably goes over the top at times but **** I do myself quite a bit and I think most people here do as well at times. And if we are being honest a lot of people, many of whom are F16 regulars, like to bash Hollywood at any chance he responds to most of those attacks.
Well maybe some of that is all on them. They're largely a bunch of pretentious narcissistic Hunger Games elitists who think they know better than all of us. About everything. The most down to earth and humble ones seem to not be hate filled preachy leftists psychos...Chris Pratt, Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Jim Caviezel etc.

But when the vast majority of high profile Hollywood elite operate with a warped liberal hive mind and constantly showcase hypocrisy...it is what it is. Anyone who denies that being a freely expressing conservative could easily get you blacklisted in Hollywood is a liar.
"F16 is full of QAnon nuts who believe that JFK & Tupac are alive and coming to save America."

See how that works?


From the looks of it, though I have no idea, you have three friends. Interesting.
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Know Your Enemy said:

Microwave Onions said:

I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but just out of curiosity, was anyone rage-posting from a 4th of July barbecue where they were avoiding eye contact with people they don't know, posting longwnded angry personal rant after longwinded angry personal rant about a movie they haven't seen?

Nah, that would be crazy.

But there is one poster who escalates & derails most threads on this board into personal poop throwing, and I have no idea why that's allowed by the mods. Seems like anyone else would've been banned by now.
Or maybe he's one of two people on this board who actually make a living in Hollywood and doesn't like everyone there to be painted with the same broad brush of disdain like many here do so he tries to stand up for himself and to a lesser degree the industry in general. But because he's active on here he gets accused of derailing threads with his agenda. Sure he probably goes over the top at times but **** I do myself quite a bit and I think most people here do as well at times. And if we are being honest a lot of people, many of whom are F16 regulars, like to bash Hollywood at any chance he responds to most of those attacks.

Thank you, and well put.

I definitely go over the top at times - there is no doubt about that - but 95% of the time it is, indeed, out of defense. Just like you're saying. Same for July 4th when I was at what was basically a kids party (where I wasn't "avoiding eye contact" with anyone, but thanks for that bizarre little extra dig), I was more defending myself from attacks than I was "ranting" about the movie itself. In fact, once again for the cheap seats, when I was "ranting" it was about the *promotion* of the movie, not the movie itself.
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Or maybe he's one of two people on this board who actually make a living in Hollywood and doesn't like everyone there to be painted with the same broad brush of disdain like many here do so he tries to stand up for himself and to a lesser degree the industry in general. But because he's active on here he gets accused of derailing threads with his agenda. Sure he probably goes over the top at times but **** I do myself quite a bit and I think most people here do as well at times. And if we are being honest a lot of people, many of whom are F16 regulars, like to bash Hollywood at any chance he responds to most of those attacks.
None of that wide-ranging paranoia has anything to do with this movie. Or with UAPs/UFOs, or Breaking Bad, or Better Call Saul, or any of the other topics he routinely injects with bizarre, insanely paranoid personal attacks.

Discussing "Hollywood" is well within the parameters of the so-called "Entertainment Board." The constant bizarre personal attacks do not fit into the category of "Entertainment."

The two of you obsessively talk about "F16;" go post there instead of turning this board into your own personal version of the Q Anon threads on F16. As you both know, all TexAgs users have the ability to post on all TexAgs boards if they want to.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

but Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade...lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.

Dude, you need to get off this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's super weird. You keep harping about it on F16 and on here. You listed like eight celebrities and said that if I expressed any disdain whatsoever for any of them, you might have "some" respect me. Not that I at all cared about your respect, but I thought, "Ok, I actually don't like most of these people, so here's a chance to build a bridge." I then listed the reasons why I didn't like all but one of them, and thought surely that might count for something, and that we could share a connection there. But no, instead, you immediately popped over to F16 and giddily started telling people that I loved Jimmy Kimmel, conveniently leaving out the fact that I *agreed* with you on everyone else, just like you're doing now.

Like, how do you not see how disingenuous that is?
No, it's not disingenuous...you refuse to call Meryl Streep and Jimmy Kimmel (two very unstable narcissistic and hate filled people) lunatics, while calling Tim Ballard a lunatic. It's hilarious.

Anyone not completely consumed in the Hollywood bubble can see how absurd that is.

Out of all the celebrities named, I didn't "refuse" to call Meryl Streep a lunatic, I must have forgotten to address her. Regardless, these are some of the most insane nitpicks/complaints/standards I've ever seen. Never mind the fact that I don't owe anyone here anything.

Also, if Tim Ballard believes in QAnon conspiracies, I'm sorry, but that does, in fact, make him a lunatic. I can simultaneously applaud his efforts, and find him to be a noble, courageous person, but if he indeed believes the same things Caviezel does - about Adrenochroming, an evil cabal of devil-worshipping cannibals, etc - that makes him gullible at best, or someone with nefarious political motivations at worst.
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I talk "obsessively" about F16? Lol, OK.
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KYE spends more time talking about sports betting than any politics. So much delusion in this thread
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YES.
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TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

but Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade...lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.

Dude, you need to get off this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's super weird. You keep harping about it on F16 and on here. You listed like eight celebrities and said that if I expressed any disdain whatsoever for any of them, you might have "some" respect me. Not that I at all cared about your respect, but I thought, "Ok, I actually don't like most of these people, so here's a chance to build a bridge." I then listed the reasons why I didn't like all but one of them, and thought surely that might count for something, and that we could share a connection there. But no, instead, you immediately popped over to F16 and giddily started telling people that I loved Jimmy Kimmel, conveniently leaving out the fact that I *agreed* with you on everyone else, just like you're doing now.

Like, how do you not see how disingenuous that is?
No, it's not disingenuous...you refuse to call Meryl Streep and Jimmy Kimmel (two very unstable narcissistic and hate filled people) lunatics, while calling Tim Ballard a lunatic. It's hilarious.

Anyone not completely consumed in the Hollywood bubble can see how absurd that is.

Out of all the celebrities named, I didn't "refuse" to call Meryl Streep a lunatic, I must have forgotten to address her. Regardless, these are some of the most insane nitpicks/complaints/standards I've ever seen. Never mind the fact that I don't owe anyone here anything.

Also, if Tim Ballard believes in QAnon conspiracies, I'm sorry, but that does, in fact, make him a lunatic. I can simultaneously applaud his efforts, and find him to be a noble, courageous person, but if he indeed believes the same things Caviezel does - about Adrenochroming, an evil cabal of devil-worshipping cannibals, etc - that makes him gullible at best, or someone with nefarious political motivations at worst.
Tom Cruise believes he is an alien spirit from another planet shot out of a volcano.......
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Know Your Enemy said:

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Yet you chose to downgrade a picture without even seeing it based on those who were attached to the project. Sorry man. No amount of back tracking and friend helping can get you out of this hole.
I'm not saying anyone was right or wrong for doing so but I've seen plenty of conservative people on here refuse to see something simply because of a star's personal views. How is that any different?
I am one of those people. I don't know that I have ever posted about it, but I have forgone some entertainment based on the opinions of those associated with it. The one time I probably posted about it here would have been Big Brother. I watched for many years with my wife, but it got so preachy I stopped watching and probably commented on it.

I have also stopped watching works by people who have asked me not to consume their product based on my beliefs. Again, I don't think I have posted about it but there have been several instances of artists saying conservatives need not tune in.
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and he has never put that in his films so I have watched a lot of his stuff.
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Raiderjay said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

but Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade...lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.

Dude, you need to get off this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's super weird. You keep harping about it on F16 and on here. You listed like eight celebrities and said that if I expressed any disdain whatsoever for any of them, you might have "some" respect me. Not that I at all cared about your respect, but I thought, "Ok, I actually don't like most of these people, so here's a chance to build a bridge." I then listed the reasons why I didn't like all but one of them, and thought surely that might count for something, and that we could share a connection there. But no, instead, you immediately popped over to F16 and giddily started telling people that I loved Jimmy Kimmel, conveniently leaving out the fact that I *agreed* with you on everyone else, just like you're doing now.

Like, how do you not see how disingenuous that is?
No, it's not disingenuous...you refuse to call Meryl Streep and Jimmy Kimmel (two very unstable narcissistic and hate filled people) lunatics, while calling Tim Ballard a lunatic. It's hilarious.

Anyone not completely consumed in the Hollywood bubble can see how absurd that is.

Out of all the celebrities named, I didn't "refuse" to call Meryl Streep a lunatic, I must have forgotten to address her. Regardless, these are some of the most insane nitpicks/complaints/standards I've ever seen. Never mind the fact that I don't owe anyone here anything.

Also, if Tim Ballard believes in QAnon conspiracies, I'm sorry, but that does, in fact, make him a lunatic. I can simultaneously applaud his efforts, and find him to be a noble, courageous person, but if he indeed believes the same things Caviezel does - about Adrenochroming, an evil cabal of devil-worshipping cannibals, etc - that makes him gullible at best, or someone with nefarious political motivations at worst.
Tom Cruise believes he is an alien spirit from another planet shot out of a volcano.......

And guess what... he's a lunatic too. Like Tim Ballard, he can contain multitudes. He can be an insanely great showman/entertainer, but also batsh*t insane. At least Cruise finally learned, unlike Caviezel, to shut the hell up about his batsh*t beliefs in the promotion of his movies.
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Sapper Redux said:

StandUpforAmerica said:

''Sound of Freedom' Beats 'Indiana Jones' in Incredible Box-Office Coup'
https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-beats-indiana-jones-incredible-box-office-coup-1811206

Pretty good results for a movie with a 'lunatic' in it.


Or it says something about the number of lunatics.


Stop. Even mainstream media comment that this film has none of the q-anon **** you think it does


Some of you are truly humorless snowflakes.
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KYE spends more time talking about sports betting than any politics. So much delusion in this thread
There's lots of things I am. Obsessed with F16 is not one of them. Scared by that forum and those that frequent it? Absolutely.
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If I was smart I would have abandoned this thread as soon as I saw where it was headed. But "smart" is another one of those things that I am not.
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TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

but Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade...lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.

Dude, you need to get off this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's super weird. You keep harping about it on F16 and on here. You listed like eight celebrities and said that if I expressed any disdain whatsoever for any of them, you might have "some" respect me. Not that I at all cared about your respect, but I thought, "Ok, I actually don't like most of these people, so here's a chance to build a bridge." I then listed the reasons why I didn't like all but one of them, and thought surely that might count for something, and that we could share a connection there. But no, instead, you immediately popped over to F16 and giddily started telling people that I loved Jimmy Kimmel, conveniently leaving out the fact that I *agreed* with you on everyone else, just like you're doing now.

Like, how do you not see how disingenuous that is?
No, it's not disingenuous...you refuse to call Meryl Streep and Jimmy Kimmel (two very unstable narcissistic and hate filled people) lunatics, while calling Tim Ballard a lunatic. It's hilarious.

Anyone not completely consumed in the Hollywood bubble can see how absurd that is.

Out of all the celebrities named, I didn't "refuse" to call Meryl Streep a lunatic, I must have forgotten to address her. Regardless, these are some of the most insane nitpicks/complaints/standards I've ever seen. Never mind the fact that I don't owe anyone here anything.

Also, if Tim Ballard believes in QAnon conspiracies, I'm sorry, but that does, in fact, make him a lunatic. I can simultaneously applaud his efforts, and find him to be a noble, courageous person, but if he indeed believes the same things Caviezel does - about Adrenochroming, an evil cabal of devil-worshipping cannibals, etc - that makes him gullible at best, or someone with nefarious political motivations at worst.
OK...And IMO if anyone thinks (like the vast majority of the left does) that chemically castrating minors or removing their breasts is humane "gender affirming care", or believed the "OMG RUSSAIA COLLUSION" confirmed hoax, or that the FBI did not collude with big tech to influence the 2020 election, or a number of other things the devout left has taken the bait on time and time again, they are lunatics. So congrats, almost all of Hollywood are lunatics.

All that said, I am not sure I really want to know what goes on in the shadows among certain perverted segments of the elite. We KNOW crazy warped sh** goes on in the hood, trailer parks, and sometimes the burbs. Why not among the rich and powerful who have exhausted every pleasure known to man? Yeah, the satanic ritual stuff loses me (I'm surprised to hear Caviezel buys into that TBH), but we do KNOW that there was an entire ISLAND devoted to sex parties and that the two ring leaders were busted and one "killed himself" under surveillance when the cameras weren't working, but not a single client of theirs was ever named. And we do KNOW that in numerous third world countries, children are captured and sold into the sex trade and some children and babies are even killed for their organs and body parts, and that in FL a major child porn ring was just busted with over like 100k videos and images that included babies and toddlers. So honestly...it would not surprise me if there were groups of rich evil perverts engaging in bizarre sexual rituals involving children. I can at least see how some normal decent God-fearing people would see such a level of evil and then be susceptible to some of the theories.

That being said, what we know is bad enough...no need to push theories of adrenochrome and satanic sex cults...and if you do, you better have the receipts to back it up.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

But Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade and is well respected and has a beautiful family, including two Hatian children he rescued and adopted? Lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.


He's not former special operations. He worked for DHS and quit to open up OUR.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

but Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade...lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.

Dude, you need to get off this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's super weird. You keep harping about it on F16 and on here. You listed like eight celebrities and said that if I expressed any disdain whatsoever for any of them, you might have "some" respect me. Not that I at all cared about your respect, but I thought, "Ok, I actually don't like most of these people, so here's a chance to build a bridge." I then listed the reasons why I didn't like all but one of them, and thought surely that might count for something, and that we could share a connection there. But no, instead, you immediately popped over to F16 and giddily started telling people that I loved Jimmy Kimmel, conveniently leaving out the fact that I *agreed* with you on everyone else, just like you're doing now.

Like, how do you not see how disingenuous that is?
No, it's not disingenuous...you refuse to call Meryl Streep and Jimmy Kimmel (two very unstable narcissistic and hate filled people) lunatics, while calling Tim Ballard a lunatic. It's hilarious.

Anyone not completely consumed in the Hollywood bubble can see how absurd that is.

Out of all the celebrities named, I didn't "refuse" to call Meryl Streep a lunatic, I must have forgotten to address her. Regardless, these are some of the most insane nitpicks/complaints/standards I've ever seen. Never mind the fact that I don't owe anyone here anything.

Also, if Tim Ballard believes in QAnon conspiracies, I'm sorry, but that does, in fact, make him a lunatic. I can simultaneously applaud his efforts, and find him to be a noble, courageous person, but if he indeed believes the same things Caviezel does - about Adrenochroming, an evil cabal of devil-worshipping cannibals, etc - that makes him gullible at best, or someone with nefarious political motivations at worst.
OK...And IMO if anyone thinks (like the vast majority of the left does) that chemically castrating minors or removing their breasts is humane "gender affirming care", or believed the "OMG RUSSAIA COLLUSION" confirmed hoax, or that the FBI did not collude with big tech to influence the 2020 election, or a number of other things the devout left has taken the bait on time and time again, they are lunatics. So congrats, almost all of Hollywood are lunatics.

All that said, I am not sure I really want to know what goes on in the shadows among certain perverted segments of the elite. We KNOW crazy warped sh** goes on in the hood, trailer parks, and sometimes the burbs. Why not among the rich and powerful who have exhausted every pleasure known to man? Yeah, the satanic ritual stuff loses me (I'm surprised to hear Caviezel buys into that TBH), but we do KNOW that there was an entire ISLAND devoted to sex parties and that the two ring leaders were busted and one "killed himself" under surveillance when the cameras weren't working, but not a single client of theirs was ever named. And we do KNOW that in numerous third world countries, children are captured and sold into the sex trade and some children and babies are even killed for their organs and body parts, and that in FL a major child porn ring was just busted with over like 100k videos and images that included babies and toddlers. So honestly...it would not surprise me if there were groups of rich evil perverts engaging in bizarre sexual rituals involving children. I can at least see how some normal decent God-fearing people would see such a level of evil and then be susceptible to some of the theories.

That being said, what we know is bad enough...no need to push theories of adrenochrome and satanic sex cults...and if you do, you better have the receipts to back it up.

These are all great points, and we're basically on the same page. Like you, I have absolutely no doubt that crazy, evil sh*t goes on among certain elites, in Hollywood and elsewhere. And yes, the entire Epstein saga is basically proof of this.

It's not that I have a problem with people believing in that sort of thing in general, or hell, even believing in conspiracy theories (I'm currently participating in a UAP/alien thread, so who am I to talk). It's when someone peddles conspiracy theories that so clearly come directly from QAnon, when QAnon is so clearly A) bullsh*t, and B) politically driven.

In a vacuum, if Caviezel wants to pontificate that there might be a group of rich evil perverts out there doing this, fine, whatever. The tell, however, is that he believes in the QAnon-peddled, QAnon brand of rich evil perverts, and all the insanity that goes along with that. A group whose sole purpose, again, is politically motivated, to paint one side as the devil and rile up the other side to demonize and vilify them, sometimes to the point of violence. Which tells me that *Caviezel* is politically motivated to paint one side as the devil and rile up the other side to demonize and vilify them, sometimes to the point of violence.

In other words, he's USING this issue - and thus these victims - to advance his own political agenda, which I simply find to be abhorrent. I have absolutely no doubt that he cares about these kids and this issue deeply, but to then use those kids and this issue in attempt to paint one side as evil and responsible, I'm sorry, but that's beyond f/cked up, and something I have a huge problem with.
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So is the movie good and worth seeing?
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TJaggie14 said:

So is the movie good and worth seeing?
yes, and yes.....
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TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TCTTS said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

I don't even know why I'm engaging with you anymore - clearly you're inventing things now, to a deranged degree, frankly - but I never once said that Tim Ballard didn't save children from human trafficking. I linked to an article that pointed out a few apparent inconsistencies in his stories, that's all. But never once did I even remotely suggest that he didn't save children, nor did I ever criticize his efforts in that regard. For the 400th time, my gripe was with the PROMOTION of the movie, not the movie itself.
so you agree that you were wrong and that Tim Ballard did those things and said those things? Just curious how far you'd like to backtrack. So he's not a lunatic? Because before you called him a lunatic. Just trying to understand.
Remember, the poster you are talking to likes Jimmy Kimmel, and doesn't consider him a lunatic. Even though he has openly wished death and suffering on unvaxxed hospital patients to thunderous Hollywood applause and has used the n-word and cried on air over a lion dying lol. Meryl Streep, also not a lunatic.

but Tim Ballard, former Spec-Ops who has devoted his life to rescuing children from the sex slave trade...lunatic.

The Hollywood bubble is VERY real.

Dude, you need to get off this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's super weird. You keep harping about it on F16 and on here. You listed like eight celebrities and said that if I expressed any disdain whatsoever for any of them, you might have "some" respect me. Not that I at all cared about your respect, but I thought, "Ok, I actually don't like most of these people, so here's a chance to build a bridge." I then listed the reasons why I didn't like all but one of them, and thought surely that might count for something, and that we could share a connection there. But no, instead, you immediately popped over to F16 and giddily started telling people that I loved Jimmy Kimmel, conveniently leaving out the fact that I *agreed* with you on everyone else, just like you're doing now.

Like, how do you not see how disingenuous that is?
No, it's not disingenuous...you refuse to call Meryl Streep and Jimmy Kimmel (two very unstable narcissistic and hate filled people) lunatics, while calling Tim Ballard a lunatic. It's hilarious.

Anyone not completely consumed in the Hollywood bubble can see how absurd that is.

Out of all the celebrities named, I didn't "refuse" to call Meryl Streep a lunatic, I must have forgotten to address her. Regardless, these are some of the most insane nitpicks/complaints/standards I've ever seen. Never mind the fact that I don't owe anyone here anything.

Also, if Tim Ballard believes in QAnon conspiracies, I'm sorry, but that does, in fact, make him a lunatic. I can simultaneously applaud his efforts, and find him to be a noble, courageous person, but if he indeed believes the same things Caviezel does - about Adrenochroming, an evil cabal of devil-worshipping cannibals, etc - that makes him gullible at best, or someone with nefarious political motivations at worst.
OK...And IMO if anyone thinks (like the vast majority of the left does) that chemically castrating minors or removing their breasts is humane "gender affirming care", or believed the "OMG RUSSAIA COLLUSION" confirmed hoax, or that the FBI did not collude with big tech to influence the 2020 election, or a number of other things the devout left has taken the bait on time and time again, they are lunatics. So congrats, almost all of Hollywood are lunatics.

All that said, I am not sure I really want to know what goes on in the shadows among certain perverted segments of the elite. We KNOW crazy warped sh** goes on in the hood, trailer parks, and sometimes the burbs. Why not among the rich and powerful who have exhausted every pleasure known to man? Yeah, the satanic ritual stuff loses me (I'm surprised to hear Caviezel buys into that TBH), but we do KNOW that there was an entire ISLAND devoted to sex parties and that the two ring leaders were busted and one "killed himself" under surveillance when the cameras weren't working, but not a single client of theirs was ever named. And we do KNOW that in numerous third world countries, children are captured and sold into the sex trade and some children and babies are even killed for their organs and body parts, and that in FL a major child porn ring was just busted with over like 100k videos and images that included babies and toddlers. So honestly...it would not surprise me if there were groups of rich evil perverts engaging in bizarre sexual rituals involving children. I can at least see how some normal decent God-fearing people would see such a level of evil and then be susceptible to some of the theories.

That being said, what we know is bad enough...no need to push theories of adrenochrome and satanic sex cults...and if you do, you better have the receipts to back it up.

These are all great points, and we're basically on the same page. Like you, I have absolutely no doubt that crazy, evil sh*t goes on among certain elites, in Hollywood and elsewhere. And yes, the entire Epstein saga is basically proof of this.

It's not that I have a problem with people believing in that sort of thing in general, or hell, even believing in conspiracy theories (I'm currently participating in a UAP/alien thread, so who am I to talk). It's when someone peddles conspiracy theories that so clearly come directly from QAnon, when QAnon is so clearly A) bullsh*t, and B) politically driven.

In a vacuum, if Caviezel wants to pontificate that there might be a group of rich evil perverts out there doing this, fine, whatever. The tell, however, is that he believes in the QAnon-peddled, QAnon brand of rich evil perverts, and all the insanity that goes along with that. A group whose sole purpose, again, is politically motivated, to paint one side as the devil and rile up the other side to demonize and vilify them, sometimes to the point of violence. Which tells me that *Caviezel* is politically motivated to paint one side as the devil and rile up the other side to demonize and vilify them, sometimes to the point of violence.

In other words, he's USING this issue - and thus these victims - to advance his own political agenda, which I simply find to be abhorrent. I have absolutely no doubt that he cares about these kids and this issue deeply, but to then use those kids and this issue in attempt to paint one side as evil and responsible, I'm sorry, but that's beyond f/cked up, and something I have a huge problem with.
Dude, at least watch the movie first, then give us your diatribe......

There is nothing in it about one political side or the other, it's about saving kids, period.....
 
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