Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

I've played every console since I'm old enough to have been around when it all started. The two moments in gaming that I always think of are:

1. Goldeneye on N64.
2. Baldur's Gate on PC.

DallasTeleAg said:

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Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

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No doubt they've carved out a still very profitable niche and that there's still demand for their products. Their in-house development is still second to none.

But it wasn't by choice that they fell out of the console arms race. It's discussed in the book, but it really is super interesting story about their rise and (somewhat) fall - all centered around control.

Playstation essentially was born because Nintendo embarrassed Sony at the altar.

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I've played every console since I'm old enough to have been around when it all started. The two moments in gaming that I always think of are:

1. Goldeneye on N64.
2. Baldur's Gate on PC.

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1. Super Mario Bros on NES.
2. King's Quest on PC.
3. Super Mario 64 on N64.

Honorable Mentions:

First time I did VR on a high end HTC Vive rig.
Final Fantasy 7 - while not the dawn of gaming cinematics, it was a whole other level.

Intellivision or GTFO

rhutton125 said:

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Had both.

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Oooh, look me. I was the rich kid...

Proposition Joe said:

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YouBet said:

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I've played every console since I'm old enough to have been around when it all started. The two moments in gaming that I always think of are:

1. Goldeneye on N64.
2. Baldur's Gate on PC.

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1. Super Mario Bros on NES.
2. King's Quest on PC.
3. Super Mario 64 on N64.

Honorable Mentions:

First time I did VR on a high end HTC Vive rig.
Final Fantasy 7 - while not the dawn of gaming cinematics, it was a whole other level.

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King's Quest is a good call. Many hours in that.

I will also say Monkeyshines on Intellivision.

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

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No doubt they've carved out a still very profitable niche and that there's still demand for their products. Their in-house development is still second to none.

But it wasn't by choice that they fell out of the console arms race. It's discussed in the book, but it really is super interesting story about their rise and (somewhat) fall - all centered around control.

Playstation essentially was born because Nintendo embarrassed Sony at the altar.

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If I remember correctly, Nintendo had been working with Sony to make their next gen console to be CD based instead of cartridge, then for whatever reason Nintendo decided to stick with cartridges and came up with the N64 and Sony did the PlayStation.

We had the NES, Gameboy, SNES, and N64. Eventually got a Wii. Will probably get the Switch before too long. Friends had Segas but never felt like I was missing anything other than the Sega version of Jurassic Park was a lot cooler than the Nintendo version.

Proposition Joe said:

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

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No doubt they've carved out a still very profitable niche and that there's still demand for their products. Their in-house development is still second to none.

But it wasn't by choice that they fell out of the console arms race. It's discussed in the book, but it really is super interesting story about their rise and (somewhat) fall - all centered around control.

Playstation essentially was born because Nintendo embarrassed Sony at the altar.

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I would hardly call Nintendo a "niche" product. The Switch will likely end up being the #3 console of all time (behind the PS2 and their own DS). Despite some missteps with both the GameCube and WiiU, I think they are still the top video game company out there. Sony is the only one who is close, but they really only make consoles. Nintendo makes both consoles and games. They are also much more creative than Sony (and MS). Each PlayStation is essentially just a hardware upgrade over the previous generation. There's really not much different about each generation. Nintendo on the other hand tries to do something different with each new console. Sometimes it fails (see WiiU), and other times it succeeds massively (Switch, Wii, DS).

TXAG 05 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

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No doubt they've carved out a still very profitable niche and that there's still demand for their products. Their in-house development is still second to none.

But it wasn't by choice that they fell out of the console arms race. It's discussed in the book, but it really is super interesting story about their rise and (somewhat) fall - all centered around control.

Playstation essentially was born because Nintendo embarrassed Sony at the altar.

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If I remember correctly, Nintendo had been working with Sony to make their next gen console to be CD based instead of cartridge, then for whatever reason Nintendo decided to stick with cartridges and came up with the N64 and Sony did the PlayStation.

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That's correct. Nintendo and Sony were partnering to make a CD add on to the Super Nintendo (like the Sega CD). However, Nintendo got suspicious that Sony intended on making their own console, so Nintendo backed out. Nintendo was kind of correct, because Sony was exploring what it would take to make their own console, but they certainly had no definitive plans. After Nintendo backed out, though, Sony was pissed and went full in on creating the PlayStation. I think it's likely that if Nintendo had not backed out, that Sony would have still created a PlayStation, but Nintendo certainly lit a fire under them.

91_Aggie said:

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Intellivision forever!!!

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B-17 Bomber!

AustinAg2K said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

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No doubt they've carved out a still very profitable niche and that there's still demand for their products. Their in-house development is still second to none.

But it wasn't by choice that they fell out of the console arms race. It's discussed in the book, but it really is super interesting story about their rise and (somewhat) fall - all centered around control.

Playstation essentially was born because Nintendo embarrassed Sony at the altar.

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I would hardly call Nintendo a "niche" product. The Switch will likely end up being the #3 console of all time (behind the PS2 and their own DS). Despite some missteps with both the GameCube and WiiU, I think they are still the top video game company out there. Sony is the only one who is close, but they really only make consoles. Nintendo makes both consoles and games. They are also much more creative than Sony (and MS). Each PlayStation is essentially just a hardware upgrade over the previous generation. There's really not much different about each generation. Nintendo on the other hand tries to do something different with each new console. Sometimes it fails (see WiiU), and other times it succeeds massively (Switch, Wii, DS).

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Sony and Microsoft both make games as well as consoles, and both have a larger market share than Nintendo. Nintendo certainly has some strong brands in their original games and tends to do very high quality editions with each generation, but they're still well behind the other two in a lot of ways, and their business model trends toward stubbornness when it comes to adapting to modern standards, something which particularly harms their ability to work with third party developers.

The Switch has obviously been a success, and I would expect to see them continue to lean into the portability aspect moving forward.

we had some atari in early 80s, then got NES 86/87 or so.
We had a good 25-30 games by the time I was 10 in 1990.
LoZ, original baseball, 3d worldrunner, bubble bobble, excitebike, rad racer, the marios, rc pro am, man those were all such great games. My neighbors had a genesis, so between our houses we played both.

We never upgraded.. kept playing that NES until mid 90s or so, bro went to A&M, I was in high school. I dabbled a bit with half life/counter strike in college, but that was pretty much the end of my video game days. Until I picked up a nintendo classic when covid hit, then recently my boys wanted a switch so we have that now too, and now I spend a few hours a week playing BoTW. I already finished links awakening, and since switch has the SNES games, I, for the first time, got to play a Link to the past.

The Collective said:

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91_Aggie said:

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Intellivision forever!!!

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B-17 Bomber!

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That was not the target!!!!

My progression:

A pong-like game in the 70s
Intellivision (Cousin got a colecovison but games were meh)
Atari 800 computer
Commodore 64
Brother got an NES and I played metroid and the classics

Got a PC 286 with 1MB RAM and 40MB hard drive and have been PcMasterRace ever since then

Never got Xbox or Playstation

We did get a Wii for our girls when that came out

I was a Nintendo kid mostly and have still bought every home console they've made, though they're mainly for the kids at this point. The only Sega console I had was the Game Gear which was pretty cool.

Getting the PS2 back in the day was a no brainer as well. Not just a great system but was the first DVD player my family had. Still prefer PS over XBox.

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We had the NES and SNES growing up, but the most nostalgia I have is for the N64. Specifically Goldeneye with the kids that lived on our street growing up. Although one of them always tried to cheat and pick Oddjob (looking at you, Chipotlemonger).

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The Collective said:

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91_Aggie said:

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Intellivision forever!!!

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B-17 Bomber!

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Beeeeee Seventane Balmer!

AustinAg2K said:

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For those who grew up in the 90s, which system did you own? I preferred the Super Nintendo, even though I actually didn't own either. My parents were the type of parents who bought me a PC when I asked for a Super Nintendo. I thought Sonic was pretty awesome, but that was the only game on the Genesis I had any interest in. What I really wanted, was Zelda and Mario.

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My dad bought us the Magnavox Odyssey. I feel your pain. Although I still have good memories. Then straight on to the original NES through elementary school. Didn't game much with activities in Jr High and High School. But by college, NCAA Football required the PlayStation.

Nowadays, my son has a remake Atari, NES, Wi, Xbox360 (with Rock Band), XBox1, and his mom wants to get him a Switch for Christmas. These kids have no idea how good they have it. Bonus is whipping his ass in Tecmo or watching him struggle with Punchout. Otoh, we get to play too.

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

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No doubt they've carved out a still very profitable niche and that there's still demand for their products. Their in-house development is still second to none.

But it wasn't by choice that they fell out of the console arms race. It's discussed in the book, but it really is super interesting story about their rise and (somewhat) fall - all centered around control.

Playstation essentially was born because Nintendo embarrassed Sony at the altar.

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100M+ consoles is niche?

bluefire579 said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

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No doubt they've carved out a still very profitable niche and that there's still demand for their products. Their in-house development is still second to none.

But it wasn't by choice that they fell out of the console arms race. It's discussed in the book, but it really is super interesting story about their rise and (somewhat) fall - all centered around control.

Playstation essentially was born because Nintendo embarrassed Sony at the altar.

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I would hardly call Nintendo a "niche" product. The Switch will likely end up being the #3 console of all time (behind the PS2 and their own DS). Despite some missteps with both the GameCube and WiiU, I think they are still the top video game company out there. Sony is the only one who is close, but they really only make consoles. Nintendo makes both consoles and games. They are also much more creative than Sony (and MS). Each PlayStation is essentially just a hardware upgrade over the previous generation. There's really not much different about each generation. Nintendo on the other hand tries to do something different with each new console. Sometimes it fails (see WiiU), and other times it succeeds massively (Switch, Wii, DS).

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Sony and Microsoft both make games as well as consoles, and both have a larger market share than Nintendo. Nintendo certainly has some strong brands in their original games and tends to do very high quality editions with each generation, but they're still well behind the other two in a lot of ways, and their business model trends toward stubbornness when it comes to adapting to modern standards, something which particularly harms their ability to work with third party developers.

The Switch has obviously been a success, and I would expect to see them continue to lean into the portability aspect moving forward.

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Microsoft solidly in third place in both console and software sales.

Had an Atari in the 80's
There was some golden chalice or goblet game you played where you had to navigate mazes to find things. I remember some kind of cheat to be able to walk thru a wall to get past a dragon.

Never had a Nintendo or any of the others. Got busy with lots of other stuff.

Our kids have had an Xbox, PS of various gens, and a Wii.

They were playing Kingdom Hearts on the PS and having trouble with the Tron light cycles level. I watched them get stuck there a bit, then said "let me try, I used to be pretty good on the arcade game".

Proceeded to wipe out the MCP's minions in one try and move to the next part of the game. The kids thought I was some kind of Jedi master, but the reality is I'm terrible at most modern games. Too many buttons and combos and such!

Anyone else have a Panasonic 3D0 back in the mid 90s? Road Rash and Way of the Warrior were excellent games.

How dare you bring numbers to TexAgs! This is the place we say things that just feel like the right thing to say!

I had the original Nintendo and then a Genesis. The Genesis was my favorite because it had Bill Walsh football, Desert/Jungle Strike, NBA Jams, Street Fighter, John Madden football, and Evander Holyfield Real Deal Boxing. Such badass games.

Favorite Genesis games:

Sonic (obviously)
Home Alone 2
Quackshot
Street Fighter II Turbo
Hard Drivin'
Skitchin'

I started with Pong. Then Atari several years later.

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YouBet said:

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I've played every console since I'm old enough to have been around when it all started. The two moments in gaming that I always think of are:

1. Goldeneye on N64.
2. Baldur's Gate on PC.

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1. Super Mario Bros on NES.
2. King's Quest on PC.
3. Super Mario 64 on N64.

Honorable Mentions:

First time I did VR on a high end HTC Vive rig.
Final Fantasy 7 - while not the dawn of gaming cinematics, it was a whole other level.

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https://www.mechcorps.com/

We had an NES in the 80's. Then my little brother and I went in together on a Sega. I guess around 91?

Then hot chicks, sex, football, and beer took over and I never played video games again. Shocker.

SNES will always be inferior to Genesis because of 1 reason, only



Nintendo went major p-ss fest on Mortal Kombat

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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bluefire579 said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Perhaps, but they seem to have righted the ship to be their own thing, existing outside of the console wars. I think the Switch is an amazing console, helped heavily by BotW being in my top 3 games of all time.

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No doubt they've carved out a still very profitable niche and that there's still demand for their products. Their in-house development is still second to none.

But it wasn't by choice that they fell out of the console arms race. It's discussed in the book, but it really is super interesting story about their rise and (somewhat) fall - all centered around control.

Playstation essentially was born because Nintendo embarrassed Sony at the altar.

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I would hardly call Nintendo a "niche" product. The Switch will likely end up being the #3 console of all time (behind the PS2 and their own DS). Despite some missteps with both the GameCube and WiiU, I think they are still the top video game company out there. Sony is the only one who is close, but they really only make consoles. Nintendo makes both consoles and games. They are also much more creative than Sony (and MS). Each PlayStation is essentially just a hardware upgrade over the previous generation. There's really not much different about each generation. Nintendo on the other hand tries to do something different with each new console. Sometimes it fails (see WiiU), and other times it succeeds massively (Switch, Wii, DS).

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Sony and Microsoft both make games as well as consoles, and both have a larger market share than Nintendo. Nintendo certainly has some strong brands in their original games and tends to do very high quality editions with each generation, but they're still well behind the other two in a lot of ways, and their business model trends toward stubbornness when it comes to adapting to modern standards, something which particularly harms their ability to work with third party developers.

The Switch has obviously been a success, and I would expect to see them continue to lean into the portability aspect moving forward.

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Microsoft solidly in third place in both console and software sales.

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Not sure where they're getting their numbers, but Microsoft has been steadily climbing with their acquisitions. Reports I've seen for this year are similar, but obviously incomplete.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/report-top-10-companies-made-65-percent-of-global-games-market-in-2021

I think my two biggest wow moments in gaming where when I saw super Mario on N64 and Starcraft on the PC.

Biggest life ruiners we're my introductions to Diablo and WoW.

Cromagnum said:

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The Collective said:

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91_Aggie said:

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Intellivision forever!!!

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B-17 Bomber!

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Beeeeee Seventane Balmer!

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I can hear it like it was yesterday.

"Consoles and software" might be misleading considering the casual gamer industry is major battleground. Apps from candy crush to Pokmon Go are major timesucks that these companies are seeing as highly profitable. Micropurchases ruin console gaming, but it's acceptable for app gaming, dare I say it enhances the experience and customers don't mind.

Urban Ag said:

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Then hot chicks, sex, football, and beer took over

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Sounds like a decent little Saturday