***** The Bridge on the River Kwai ***** (Texags movie of the week)

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This should be a crowd pleaser after a few less than steller horror movies.

No spoilers until 11/21 please.



It is streaming on HBO Max.


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So grill a steak, pour a glass of Lagavulin, and enjoy

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I can hear the whistling now.
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Love William Holden's performance in this.

Poor James Donald had to serve time in POW camps in both theaters.
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So did William Holden
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One of the greatest movies ever made.
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Duh. Forgot about Stalag 17.
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James Donald also played a doctor in another Japanese prison camp movie, King Rat.
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Big Cat `93 said:

Duh. Forgot about Stalag 17.


Love that movie!!
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this was when they just knew how to make real movies

there is some documentary on the "real" Bridge on the River Kwai.

imagine being a POW of the Japanese
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Yes, it must have been a nightmare.

My uncle, Paul A. Brown, Capt., USMC (graduated from A&M in 1928) was captured on Corregidor and died in a POW camp in Japan.

My mother could not bear to watch any of the POW films.
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Obi Wan before he became a Jedi
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Before the dark times. Before the Empire.
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oh man! my group (well me) picked this movie to an english project on in high school!

Picked it because i remember watching it numerous times growing up with dad. The other members of the group did not share their same opinion as I did after watching it.
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jeffk said:

I can hear the whistling now.
If I never have to play Colonel Bogey March again, it will be too soon.
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Sweet! Here's one that I truly love and that my wife will likely enjoy as well.
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Big Cat `93 said:

Love William Holden's performance in this.

Poor James Donald had to serve time in POW camps in both theaters.
If you like Holden, then Stalag 17 is great. My favorite is the Bridges at Toko Ri. Just a great movie and look at the Korean War from a Naval Aviation perspective.
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Higgins was also there

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I'm told Stalag 17 is where they got the idea for Hogan's Heros.
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I know a fellow Ag whose father-in-law was in the camp portrayed in The Great Escape. His name wasn't Hilts or Hendley.
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MGS said:

Higgins was also there




It's been too long, but you imagine a spin-off about a younger Higgins?
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The best war movie ever made, and arguably one of the to 20 best movies ever made overall.

The true story behind it.

https://www.cwgc.org/our-work/blog/the-true-story-of-the-bridge-over-the-river-kwai/
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Just watched it again. So great!

Even though I knew how it ended, I still was clinchednup as Nicholson approaches the commando following the wire. They did such a great job showing him become totally obsessed and Guinness nails the role.

One thing I've never understood. Why was Saito considering killing himself? He takes all of the preparatory steps but never gets around to it. Was he ashamed of how the British had pulled it off but he had not?
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One of the greatest movies I have ever seen. I love how Guinness takes on the challenge of building the bridge and faces down the Jap camp commander who is insisting officers build right along enlisted men. As annoying as the song was, I have always found myself humming along with it when the Brits are whistling that tune. The ending, when I first saw this movie, came as a bit of a shock, but in more recent viewings, I believe this was the best way to end it.

In honor of Thanksgiving week, I'd nominate Planes, Trains and Automobiles as the next movie of the week.
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Guiness is amazing in this. His line at the end is delivered with such emotion that it gives me goosebumps every time.
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One thing I've never understood. Why was Saito considering killing himself? He takes all of the preparatory steps but never gets around to it. Was he ashamed of how the British had pulled it off but he had not?
Yes, precisely. Saito has lost face by having to admit that his own engineers are unable to build the bridge on time. He has had to concede one point after another in order to make sure the bridge is built: "I have already given the order." The Samurai code demands that he kill himself for his failure.

I have always understood the movie to be a study of two men, each in the grip of a deadly obsession.

The code of the Samurai has led the Japanese to create an empire of oppression and death. The rules of European civilization mean nothing to Saito, who has committed war crimes in his obsessive pursuit of the objective that the Empire has assigned him: building the bridge.

But the British, too, live by their own bizarre code of "stiff upper lip" and keeping up appearances, a code which has given them their own Empire. The Colonel represents an extreme version of this code, which he follows maniacally until he very nearly makes a major contribution to the enemy's war effort.

Saito and the colonel are very similar; they are just wearing different uniforms.

It is the American--the cynic, the mocker, the anti-imperialist--who sees the hollowness of both obsessions yet finds himself (like how many millions across the planet) forced to take a side and then destroyed as the two empires clash.


As has been said, this is one of the best movies ever made.
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I thought Saito was preparing his knife for seppuku if it turned out the bridge failed when the train was coming up to crossing.
I don't think he'd care who built the bridge. He'd claim it as his victory and throw anyone in the box who disagreed.
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Quad Dog said:

I thought Saito was preparing his knife for seppuku if it turned out the bridge failed when the train was coming up to crossing.
I don't think he'd care who built the bridge. He'd claim it as his victory and throw anyone in the box who disagreed.

I never connected it with an aspect of "if it failed". He seemed to have pulled back into his shell the further the movie went along, especially when around Nicholson because Nicholson had essentially out maneuvered him in the first act. I'm still a bit confused by it because he accomplished his mission but I think the previous poster was right in that his perception was that Nicholson had succeeded and he had failed.

But then to your point, he didn't go through with it the night before during the Brit's celebration so maybe he was prepping in case something went wrong the next day…
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Stive said:

Quad Dog said:

I thought Saito was preparing his knife for seppuku if it turned out the bridge failed when the train was coming up to crossing.
I don't think he'd care who built the bridge. He'd claim it as his victory and throw anyone in the box who disagreed.

I never connected it with an aspect of "if it failed". He seemed to have pulled back into his shell the further the movie went along, especially when around Nicholson because Nicholson had essentially out maneuvered him in the first act. I'm still a bit confused by it because he accomplished his mission but I think the previous poster was right in that his perception was that Nicholson had succeeded and he had failed.

But then to your point, he didn't go through with it the night before during the Brit's celebration so maybe he was prepping in case something went wrong the next day…


Had it not blown up I pictured Saito shipping the Brits away to another camp, taking down their sign and christening the bridge to be the Saito Bridge.
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I'd watch! But can you imagine trying to maintain continuity/consistency with all the stories he told Magnum?

Would be a neat backstory of how he went from doing what he did, to becoming Robin Masters? And why go to such lengths to maintain the subterfuge? Or….if he wasn't Robin…then how'd he connect with him in the first place?

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Watched this one over the weekend. Amazingly I had never seen it. Reminded me of Unbroken in a strange way. The final scene was a groin kick. The whole time I was screaming to blow the bridge
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Now that spoilers are allowed, here's my full random comments. Somehow if missed this movie and never seen it before
Young Obi-Wan!

Had a military unit ever actually marched to whistling?

US Commander Shears claimed he was on the Houston, which was sunk by torpedoes at the Battle of Sunda Strait. Most of the crew became POWs with many dying in captivity.

You'd think US Commander Shears could have given a 2 minute speech on what to expect from Saito.

Like Saito having an American pin-up girl calendar from Ohio in his office.

I know it's the principle of the thing, but it seems silly that Saito and Colonel Nicholson spent so much time arguing over like 8 officers working. The eight extra men wouldn't have sped up work much even if they did manual labor.

Man, Commander Shears found paradise and a blonde to escape to, not too bad. The native village looked nice too.

Lord Louis Montbatten requested Shear's info on the railway was the Uncle of Prince Phillip, also the first Governor - General of India.

Commander Shears pulling a Don Draper

The morality of building the bridge was an interesting discussion and decision. Is it aiding the enemy? Helping the prisoners? Helping the community after the war? Even had to recruit the injured. Does the board think it was the right thing to do to build it so well? Just a slight change in the role of the performance and they could have made Nicholson seem like a mad man obsessed with building this perfect bridge. Pretend like you didn't know it would be blown up.

Nice of the British to include 3 different kinds of hats to the paratroopers. Shears formed his to look like a cowboy hat while the Brits kept theirs in bushman style.

Where did the stage for the night entertainment come from? The Brits built that too?

Doesn't make much sense for the Japs to walk guard along the top of the bridge. You can guard the top of the bridge with two guys, one at either end. The rest of your guard should be at the river bank watching the most vulnerable spots.

I thought you weren't supposed to march in time across a bridge because of vibrations. The Brits did at the end.

Madness: an appropriate word to end a movie about war, denial, and obsession.

From wiki: The screenwriters, Carl Foreman and Michael Wilson, were on the Hollywood blacklist and, even though living in exile in England, could only work on the film in secret. The two did not collaborate on the script; Wilson took over after Lean was dissatisfied with Foreman's work. The official credit was given to Pierre Boulle (who did not speak English), and the resulting Oscar for Best Screenplay (Adaptation) was awarded to him. Only in 1984 did the Academy rectify the situation by retroactively awarding the Oscar to Foreman and Wilson, posthumously in both cases

In a 1988 interview with Barry Norman, Lean confirmed that Columbia almost stopped filming after three weeks because there was no white woman in the film, forcing him to add what he called "a very terrible scene" between Holden and a nurse on the beach.
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Jack Hawkins and Sesu Hiakowa.
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This was the same director that later did Lawrence of Arabia and I think you can see some similarities in framing and shot selection, although an earlier version.

Really enjoyed this one as it has been a long time since I watched.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

One of the greatest movies I have ever seen. I love how Guinness takes on the challenge of building the bridge and faces down the Jap camp commander who is insisting officers build right along enlisted men. As annoying as the song was, I have always found myself humming along with it when the Brits are whistling that tune. The ending, when I first saw this movie, came as a bit of a shock, but in more recent viewings, I believe this was the best way to end it.

In honor of Thanksgiving week, I'd nominate Planes, Trains and Automobiles as the next movie of the week.
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