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***The Umbrella Academy Season 3***

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johnnyblaze36
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Anybody watch this show or even realize that the new season came out today on Netflix? I thought the first two seasons were pretty entertaining.

Strangely I was watching the documentary on Mr. Rogers late last night and when it was over it suggested Umbrella Academy next for me. Hadn't seen anything promoting the new season and watched the first episode and thought it was decent.

Sex Panther
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Had no clue it was dropping today, but I'm excited. Love this show.


Any other show having one of your main stars change genders IRL would be a pretty big problem, but for this weird ass show it's probably right in line with the plot
AgTrip
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That opening fight scene....that was awesome!!
ABATTBQ11
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I watched the first two seasons and had no idea it was dropping.
Lathspell
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Had no idea.

Overall, I think I remember the last season being much better than the first. However, I think the show overall is about a 6-7/10.

Klaus is by far the best character, and is the main reason for any of my enjoyment of the show.

How are they handling Page's character? Is she even still in the show? I'm kind of hesitant to even watch it because I just can't stand her.
AgTrip
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DallasTeleAg said:

Had no idea.

Overall, I think I remember the last season being much better than the first. However, I think the show overall is about a 6-7/10.


Klaus is by far the best character, and is the main reason for any of my enjoyment of the show.

How are they handling Page's character? Is she even still in the show? I'm kind of hesitant to even watch it because I just can't stand her.


Yeah they "dealt" with it..kinda like you'd expect. They introduced some new characters which make this very interesting to me. I'm into 3rd episode and like it. Number 5 is the best!
johnnyblaze36
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AgTrip said:

That opening fight scene....that was awesome!!
That caught me so off guard. I couldn't decide whether I thought immediately the show had jumped the shark already or if I absolutely loved it

It is very bizarre that this season was seemingly promoted nowhere.
ABATTBQ11
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AgTrip said:

DallasTeleAg said:

Had no idea.

Overall, I think I remember the last season being much better than the first. However, I think the show overall is about a 6-7/10.


Klaus is by far the best character, and is the main reason for any of my enjoyment of the show.

How are they handling Page's character? Is she even still in the show? I'm kind of hesitant to even watch it because I just can't stand her.


Yeah they "dealt" with it..kinda like you'd expect. They introduced some new characters which make this very interesting to me. I'm into 3rd episode and like it. Number 5 is the best!


Yeah, 5 is easily the best. Klaus is a close second. I think they should have just recast Ellen Page.

ETA Randomly dropping it with no promotion gives me the feeling they have little faith in the series. Kind of like they want it to bomb so they can kill it. There wasn't even anything like, "New episodes coming June 23rd," while bumping it into the recommend mix and that stuff is free.
johnnyblaze36
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ABATTBQ11 said:

AgTrip said:

DallasTeleAg said:

Had no idea.

Overall, I think I remember the last season being much better than the first. However, I think the show overall is about a 6-7/10.


Klaus is by far the best character, and is the main reason for any of my enjoyment of the show.

How are they handling Page's character? Is she even still in the show? I'm kind of hesitant to even watch it because I just can't stand her.


Yeah they "dealt" with it..kinda like you'd expect. They introduced some new characters which make this very interesting to me. I'm into 3rd episode and like it. Number 5 is the best!


Yeah, 5 is easily the best. Klaus is a close second. I think they should have just recast Ellen Page.

ETA Randomly dropping it with no promotion gives me the feeling they have little faith in the series. Kind of like they want it to bomb so they can kill it. There wasn't even anything like, "New episodes coming June 23rd," while bumping it into the recommend mix and that stuff is free.
It sure feels like a pretty high budget show for that to be the case. Onto episode 2. And agreed that 5 has always been the best.

Am I the only one that can't help but see an oversized Philip Rivers every time Luther is on screen?
ABATTBQ11
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johnnyblaze36 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

AgTrip said:

DallasTeleAg said:

Had no idea.

Overall, I think I remember the last season being much better than the first. However, I think the show overall is about a 6-7/10.


Klaus is by far the best character, and is the main reason for any of my enjoyment of the show.

How are they handling Page's character? Is she even still in the show? I'm kind of hesitant to even watch it because I just can't stand her.


Yeah they "dealt" with it..kinda like you'd expect. They introduced some new characters which make this very interesting to me. I'm into 3rd episode and like it. Number 5 is the best!


Yeah, 5 is easily the best. Klaus is a close second. I think they should have just recast Ellen Page.

ETA Randomly dropping it with no promotion gives me the feeling they have little faith in the series. Kind of like they want it to bomb so they can kill it. There wasn't even anything like, "New episodes coming June 23rd," while bumping it into the recommend mix and that stuff is free.
It sure feels like a pretty high budget show for that to be the case. Onto episode 2. And agreed that 5 has always been the best.

Am I the only one that can't help but see an oversized Philip Rivers every time Luther is on screen?


It is high budget, but that may be part of the problem. Before it was a show with a quirky and dysfunctional family that had good banter. Now it's basically super woke because Ellen Page is no longer Ellen Page, and Netflix has taken a stance on woke shows since they started bleeding subscribers. They're looking for dead weight to axe, so what better than something that is high budget and becoming more niche?
Flaith
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I was expecting the Elliott Page angle to distracting, but it isn't. I really love this show.

Five and Klaus are easily the best actors in the series, so I'm glad they are getting that spotlight. I've really liked Sheehan since Misfits. Sort of a British Shiah Lebeof without the daddy issues. Paige has always been a brilliant actor, but I don't think this show allows him to exhibit his wheelhouse character type.

Sparrow girls are HOT
CoolaidWade
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ABATTBQ11 said:

AgTrip said:

DallasTeleAg said:

Had no idea.

Overall, I think I remember the last season being much better than the first. However, I think the show overall is about a 6-7/10.


Klaus is by far the best character, and is the main reason for any of my enjoyment of the show.

How are they handling Page's character? Is she even still in the show? I'm kind of hesitant to even watch it because I just can't stand her.


Yeah they "dealt" with it..kinda like you'd expect. They introduced some new characters which make this very interesting to me. I'm into 3rd episode and like it. Number 5 is the best!


Yeah, 5 is easily the best. Klaus is a close second. I think they should have just recast Ellen Page.

ETA Randomly dropping it with no promotion gives me the feeling they have little faith in the series. Kind of like they want it to bomb so they can kill it. There wasn't even anything like, "New episodes coming June 23rd," while bumping it into the recommend mix and that stuff is free.
I don't think they will just cancel for no reason after this season. (Granted I haven't started season 3 so I don't know how it ends and I'm very aware of Netflix axing every show I start to like)

It's still one of their highest rated shows and brings subscribers. I would guess next season is the last and it concludes with a solid ending.
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Flaith said:

I was expecting the Elliott Page angle to distracting, but it isn't. I really love this show.

Five and Klaus are easily the best actors in the series, so I'm glad they are getting that spotlight. I've really liked Sheehan since Misfits. Sort of a British Shiah Lebeof without the daddy issues. Paige has always been a brilliant actor, but I don't think this show allows him to exhibit his wheelhouse character type.

Sparrow girls are HOT
These 2 especially:

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin
CFTXAG10
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Finished season 3 today. Really hope they do a season 4. Very underrated show.
bobinator
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Man that was another good season. Hope they do another one.
agdaddy04
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CFTXAG10 said:

Finished season 3 today. Really hope they do a season 4. Very underrated show.

Curious what direction they'd go in season 4.
Unforgiven94
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agdaddy04 said:

CFTXAG10 said:

Finished season 3 today. Really hope they do a season 4. Very underrated show.

Curious what direction they'd go in season 4.


I'd have to imagine they need to resolve their daddy issues.
coldmoose
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Finished seaon 3. I love this show.

I'm looking forward to more.
Madmarttigan
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Other than the complete lack of explaining literally everything, it was still pretty good.
Formerly tv1113
CoolaidWade
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That was outstanding. Really need season 4. It would be just like Netflix to just screw it up and cancel.
Ogre09
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Madmarttigan said:

Other than the complete lack of explaining literally everything, it was still pretty good.


The characters don't know what the **** just happened of how or why. And neither do we. And I don't mind it. Life is that way sometimes.

Bring on season 4!

Elliott/Ellen/Vanya/Victor thing was distracting, but tolerable.
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dcAg
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Great show. I think I binged the most recent season in one sitting.
ABATTBQ11
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C@LAg said:

Ogre09 said:

Madmarttigan said:

Other than the complete lack of explaining literally everything, it was still pretty good.


The characters don't know what the **** just happened of how or why. And neither do we. And I don't mind it. Life is that way sometimes.

Bring on season 4!

Elliott/Ellen/Vanya/Victor thing was distracting, but tolerable.
i hate everything about her character in the show. It was OK for season 1, but her whole lesbian arc and the Harlan arc in season 3 just sucked.

She really IS the fault for all of their problems.

When Allison called her out, I did a literal "you go girl".


Gotta agree. She is annoying AF, and it seems like the character and story arcs were added to appease Page. They feel like crammed in afterthoughts that are parallel to but outside of the main story. Half the victor scenes seemed like roleplay scenarios out of HR sexual harassment training videos. Not sure if that's what they were going for, but it sucked. They distracted and chewed up time, but they didn't really add anything. On top of that, she really is just kind of a ****ty, selfish character never wanting to take any responsibility unless it's to assuage her own guilt.

As much as I liked the first season and I'm curious about where they would go from here, I'm not really excited at all about a season 4 because of it (what ****ty Vanya/Victor arc do we have to suffer through now?). It's just too damn preachy, and the seeming requirement for lgbt across just about every piece of original content has gotten tiresome and old. If my kid wasn't all in on How to Train Your Dragon, I would probably drop my subscription tomorrow. I don't have anything against lgbt characters, but when they're shoehorned into every single piece of original content I start to wonder if I'm paying for good storytelling or thinly veiled political commentary.
Ogre09
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I'm excited about season 4.

Why did they lose their powers? Will they need to get then back? Why and how?

What happened to Luther's hot sparrow girl? Is she gone for good? Surely not.

Will Allison be happy in her new perfect life? Will the others resent her?

Was this Papa's end game, get his wife back?
Texas Ag 15
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Just finished season 3, and agree with the comments above. You'd think they'd have to go for a Season 4 with that ending. Hopefully the bring back Sloane
Quad Dog
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I like this show too. I like that anything is possible, it doesn't make sense and doesn't care. The actors are super charismatic. I love every line reading that Klaus and Five do. It looks like everyone involved is having a lot of fun doing crazy stuff all the time.

You guys are all blowing Elliot Page out of the water. The show handled it as well as possible. They spent a grand total of maybe 2 minutes on the transition. He showed up, said his name was Viktor once, his family each accepted it and everyone moved on. It wasn't an issue at all once everyone knew. The bigger issue of the series and Allison's problem was Viktor lying about Harlan and nothing else.
bobinator
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Yeah, if we're going to hate on a character I was pretty over Allison this season.
CoolaidWade
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Quad Dog said:

I like this show too. I like that anything is possible, it doesn't make sense and doesn't care. The actors are super charismatic. I love every line reading that Klaus and Five do. It looks like everyone involved is having a lot of fun doing crazy stuff all the time.

You guys are all blowing Elliot Page out of the water. The show handled it as well as possible. They spent a grand total of maybe 2 minutes on the transition. He showed up, said his name was Viktor once, his family each accepted it and everyone moved on. It wasn't an issue at all once everyone knew. The bigger issue of the series and Allison's problem was Viktor lying about Harlan and nothing else.
Honestly everyone picked on it too fast IMO. It was good for the show but if I was a superhero on the show I would spend every episode going, "Ok, Vanya, Whoa! I meant Victor. My bad."

ABATTBQ11
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Quad Dog said:

I like this show too. I like that anything is possible, it doesn't make sense and doesn't care. The actors are super charismatic. I love every line reading that Klaus and Five do. It looks like everyone involved is having a lot of fun doing crazy stuff all the time.

You guys are all blowing Elliot Page out of the water. The show handled it as well as possible. They spent a grand total of maybe 2 minutes on the transition. He showed up, said his name was Viktor once, his family each accepted it and everyone moved on. It wasn't an issue at all once everyone knew. The bigger issue of the series and Allison's problem was Viktor lying about Harlan and nothing else.


It wasn't a major plot point, but it did keep coming up in what seemed like very forced situations. For instance, when Luther and Diego are talking about whether they should throw Viktor a party. The way it happened and was written felt like an HR video on how to talk to your new trans co-worker, which made it feel very preachy. I get they handled it the best they could, but that doesn't mean or didn't feel like an unnecessary sideshow.



ETA Vanya/Viktor's arcs feel like they're written on the fly for Page and that the character is being created for the actor, not that the actor is playing a character. Whether Page is lesbian, trans, or whatever should be irrelevant to the character's story. Barney Stinson is a perfect example. Neil Patrick Harris is gay, and yet he played, very well in fact, a super straight character whose seemingly sole purpose in life was to bang as many hot women as possible. HIMYM would have sucked if halfway through they said, "Oh, Neil is gay? Well, Barney's going to be on the hunt for guys now."
ABATTBQ11
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Allison was bad and took some very out of character turns, but then again she's lost everything from two lives. Remember, everyone dropped at different times in Dallas and are in very different places emotionally. I think that's gotten lost on us as an audience because it's been years between seasons, but Allison lost her kid, started a new life and got married, abandoned that life to get back to her kid, and then found out that her kid has now never existed. I think anyone would kind of lose their ****.
Quad Dog
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CoolaidWade said:

Quad Dog said:

I like this show too. I like that anything is possible, it doesn't make sense and doesn't care. The actors are super charismatic. I love every line reading that Klaus and Five do. It looks like everyone involved is having a lot of fun doing crazy stuff all the time.

You guys are all blowing Elliot Page out of the water. The show handled it as well as possible. They spent a grand total of maybe 2 minutes on the transition. He showed up, said his name was Viktor once, his family each accepted it and everyone moved on. It wasn't an issue at all once everyone knew. The bigger issue of the series and Allison's problem was Viktor lying about Harlan and nothing else.
Honestly everyone picked on it too fast IMO. It was good for the show but if I was a superhero on the show I would spend every episode going, "Ok, Vanya, Whoa! I meant Victor. My bad."


Having people intentionally or accidentally deadname him would have made it into an issue and kept hitting us over the head with it. They way they did it was the best possible. Address it quickly and move on
Quad Dog
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Quad Dog said:

I like this show too. I like that anything is possible, it doesn't make sense and doesn't care. The actors are super charismatic. I love every line reading that Klaus and Five do. It looks like everyone involved is having a lot of fun doing crazy stuff all the time.

You guys are all blowing Elliot Page out of the water. The show handled it as well as possible. They spent a grand total of maybe 2 minutes on the transition. He showed up, said his name was Viktor once, his family each accepted it and everyone moved on. It wasn't an issue at all once everyone knew. The bigger issue of the series and Allison's problem was Viktor lying about Harlan and nothing else.


It wasn't a major plot point, but it did keep coming up in what seemed like very forced situations. For instance, when Luther and Diego are talking about whether they should throw Viktor a party. The way it happened and was written felt like an HR video on how to talk to your new trans co-worker, which made it feel very preachy. I get they handled it the best they could, but that doesn't mean or didn't feel like an unnecessary sideshow.
To me that instance felt like how that family, especially Diego, would have handled literally any major news from a family member.
bobinator
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No I get it, for sure, I was just over it as a viewer.
bobinator
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I thought that part was kind of funny and kind of real-life. "So do we like throw him a party or what?"

Considering this show had to handle it I thought they did a great job.
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