I guess I just find realistic evil cartel dudes scarier than the Salamancas. Just seemed way over the top/cartoonish in an otherwise pretty realistic show.
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Here's the thing. In real life, this tub of lard:Teacher_Ag said:
I guess I just find realistic evil cartel dudes scarier than the Salamancas. Just seemed way over the top/cartoonish in an otherwise pretty realistic show.
Tortured, killed, and dismembered a 6 year old girl in front of per parents while laughing. Then did the same thing with the wife, and the father. All because he wanted to punish the father. Now if this POS was shown in breaking bad, would you be scared? I sure as hell would not be. I would think, "what is that fat ass going to do to anybody?" To make us scared of him, they would have to dedicate story timeline show the depraved things he did. Do we really want to see that shown with realism? Hell no.
Again, when a show tried to get more realistic with cartels, it lasted 2 seasons. And it was tame compared to what cartels really do. Hell, Narco's Mexico had to sugar coat it and end the show out of fear that getting too current getting producers and actors killed.
BB, instead, chose the twins. They made them over the top intentionally. Like a couple of terminators who kill people without thinking twice. And by doing so, they waste ZERO minutes of backstory to convince us they are bad. Every death they show was part of the BB story. I think it was perfectly done.
It's getting kind of weird how much you're bringing this up.Quote:
Tortured, killed, and dismembered a 6 year old girl in front of per parents while laughing. Then did the same thing with the wife, and the father. All because he wanted to punish the father
MGS said:Probably not so much a bad character, just a bad actor.Scriffer said:pimplepopper said:
Justified - Michael Rappaport
This is it for me. I actually like Justified more than Breaking Bad, but he damn near ruined everything.
Fair point
Fair enough. I wish they'd gone a realistic route. People don't walk around/behave like that, just pure Hollywood. If they'd done the other characters that gimmicky and over the top Hank would have been Walker New Mexico Ranger.
I originally thought exactly like you did. Then I saw The Bridge on FX and that changed my mind.Teacher_Ag said:
Fair enough. I wish they'd gone a realistic route. People don't walk around/behave like that, just pure Hollywood. If they'd done the other characters that gimmicky and over the top Hank would have been Walker New Mexico Ranger.
I went into that show thinking that I would appreciate the realism. But it was simply too dark and not enjoyable at all. When they cancelled it, I was actually glad. What is strange is that I really liked the Narcos series. but that is more because it was about real people and was semi-historical.
Then on a rewatch of BB, I realized that the twins accomplish the writers' goals perfectly, and I appreciated them a lot more.
HOWEVER, on Better Call Saul the twins (and the cartels in general) aren't scary at all to me. I can't put my finger on why.
Being from a small, shady town that actually had legit cartel associates here and there I really did have a fear of them. If they'd captured that with the Salamancas it would have made the series a lot stronger. I'm not saying they needed to make their depictions of violence more graphic, just make them believable character who really are cruel and evil...which they are in real life, obviously.
If I had to guess, I would say it's a combination of having seen them before and knowing not only their fate, but the fates of most everyone they interact with. You know that, for example, Gus and Mike are going to be alive at the end of the series because they need to fulfill their respective roles in BB. BCS has been fantastic, but there is still that lingering prequel problem with some of the characters that really takes some of the drama out of it.aTmAg said:I originally thought exactly like you did. Then I saw The Bridge on FX and that changed my mind.Teacher_Ag said:
Fair enough. I wish they'd gone a realistic route. People don't walk around/behave like that, just pure Hollywood. If they'd done the other characters that gimmicky and over the top Hank would have been Walker New Mexico Ranger.
I went into that show thinking that I would appreciate the realism. But it was simply too dark and not enjoyable at all. When they cancelled it, I was actually glad. What is strange is that I really liked the Narcos series. but that is more because it was about real people and was semi-historical.
Then on a rewatch of BB, I realized that the twins accomplish the writers' goals perfectly, and I appreciated them a lot more.
HOWEVER, on Better Call Saul the twins (and the cartels in general) aren't scary at all to me. I can't put my finger on why.
MGS said:Probably not so much a bad character, just a bad actor.Scriffer said:pimplepopper said:
Justified - Michael Rappaport
This is it for me. I actually like Justified more than Breaking Bad, but he damn near ruined everything.
Fair point. Every time he says, "Maaaann!" I can't think of anything but this:
Dexter's sister was annoying.
If you want the dumbest character in the Breaking Bad show, it's Skyler's sister.
Nikki and Paulo on "Lost". The show lost a lot if its goodness in the last season, but at the the time they were introduced it was still 'cool', IMO.
NoahAg said:
Jack Bauer's daughter.
GDit!
Why couldn't such a bad arse like Jack Bauer have his daughter learn some martial arts and self defense?
It riled me up every time
Ted Mosby
Coy and Vance
https://i.postimg.cc/rpHKr9JQ/IMG-0770.jpg
Sansa Stark
The oldest daughter on Lost in Space ( well all the humans on lost in space but her mainly )
All the humans in Godzilla movies sans maybe Ken watenabe
Anything Katee Sackoff is in .
The oldest daughter on Lost in Space ( well all the humans on lost in space but her mainly )
All the humans in Godzilla movies sans maybe Ken watenabe
Anything Katee Sackoff is in .
Anyone from Dorne outside of Oberyn
Private Blithe in Band of Brothers - no need to shame that guy
Private Blithe in Band of Brothers - no need to shame that guy
Billy Eichner; Parks & Rec. "Look at me...I'm a gay, Jewish guy that yells." The show was on such a roll, and this dude added nothing.
sorry i didn't refer to ozark or BB.
sorry i didn't refer to ozark or BB.
LB41Diamond said:
Dexter's sister was annoying.
There were so many poorly written characters in Dexter that Deb moves way up the charts by default.
Monica Dutton in Yellowstone.
bearamedic99 said:
GDit!
Why couldn't such a bad arse like Jack Bauer have his daughter learn some martial arts and self defense?
It riled me up every time
What would that do against mountain lions, though? Such lazy writing. After the mountain lion episode, I had a feeling that quicksand and amnesia would come up that season.
AGnBCS said:
Sansa Stark
The oldest daughter on Lost in Space ( well all the humans on lost in space but her mainly )
All the humans in Godzilla movies sans maybe Ken watenabe
Anything Katee Sackoff is in .
What??? No way. She was supposed to be annoying early on, but she became a bad ass.
In before Reva
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AGnBCS said:
Sansa Stark
The oldest daughter on Lost in Space ( well all the humans on lost in space but her mainly )
All the humans in Godzilla movies sans maybe Ken watenabe
Anything Katee Sackoff is in .
What??? No way. She was supposed to be annoying early on, but she became a bad ass.
Exactly!!
NoahAg said:
Jack Bauer's daughter.
I'm (super) late to this show and only in the middle of season 2 but she is the absolute worst. Wondering if I should skip ahead to another season or something.
Wife and I did that verbatim. Great take.TexAg2001 said:I've binged BB all the way through twice. On the first viewing, I absolutely hated Skyler and was in Walt's camp for the entire show. Upon the second viewing, my mindset completely changed and I pretty much agreed with everything Skyler did and was rooting for Walt's downfall. For me, the show had a completely different, but still enjoyable, feel to it the 2nd time around. Genius writing.....Ulrich said:
Skyler White isn't wrong in the end, Walt turns out to be a monster. As a viewer though, when you meet Skylar she's flipping out over every little thing the protagonist does. The protagonist is struggling with a terminal cancer diagnosis, to all appearances is a kind of bumbling but well-intentioned normal guy, and he's played by an actor who has been most recognizable as the lovable loser at that point in his career. She comes off as terribly unfair, and that colors perception throughout the series, especially for first time watchers.
If the series started in season two or three, I bet people would view her a lot differently. Conversely, one can imagine a scenario where Skylar knows a lot more about Walt than we do and already has good reason to be suspicious and angry, but we the viewer just don't know it yet.
Hincemm said:
Billy Eichner; Parks & Rec. "Look at me...I'm a gay, Jewish guy that yells." The show was on such a roll, and this dude added nothing.
sorry i didn't refer to ozark or BB.
AND IT'S INCURABLE!
Lori Grimes single handedly drove me (get it?) away from even attempting to finish that **** show that was Walking Dead.
Can't believe that 2 pages in no one has mentioned John Ralphio and Mona Lisa from Parks & Rec.
That is because they are the best "minor" characters.An L of an Ag said:
Can't believe that 2 pages in no one has mentioned John Ralphio and Mona Lisa from Parks & Rec.
Depends on who they casted...who ever thought 4'10" out of shape Joe Pesci could be so terrifying in mob movies?aTmAg said:Here's the thing. In real life, this tub of lard:Teacher_Ag said:
I guess I just find realistic evil cartel dudes scarier than the Salamancas. Just seemed way over the top/cartoonish in an otherwise pretty realistic show.
Tortured, killed, and dismembered a 6 year old girl in front of per parents while laughing. Then did the same thing with the wife, and the father. All because he wanted to punish the father. Now if this POS was shown in breaking bad, would you be scared? I sure as hell would not be. I would think, "what is that fat ass going to do to anybody?" To make us scared of him, they would have to dedicate story timeline show the depraved things he did. Do we really want to see that shown with realism? Hell no.
Phoebe Buffay
MONEY PLEEEEEASEAn L of an Ag said:
Can't believe that 2 pages in no one has mentioned John Ralphio and Mona Lisa from Parks & Rec.
They said "cool" showBrian Earl Spilner said:
In before Reva
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