You're right, but as walton pointed out Jimmy did that to him. However, I suppose it's possible to infer that word of that trickled its way to his wife.Hotdog Hamblin said:
Didn't a hooker(s) confront Howard at a crowded restaurant a season or two ago? I think that has something to do with it.
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ok thanks. Not sure any of that warrants a bullet to the wife. Maybe Spilner should ease up on the red bulls.Ervin Burrell said:They haven't delved into it much - I believe the first reference to it is when they showed Howard visiting a therapist a few episodes back in which he discusses some marriage problems. Then, in the cold open last episode with the coffee, they showed him getting ready for work in the guest house then walking to the main house's kitchen. And then of course he brought it up in his spiel to Kim and Jimmy right before getting shot.Urban Ag said:What's the back story on the wife and why Howard has to sleep in the pool house? I admit, I zoned out a lot on some of the lawyer story line. thanksBrian Earl Spilner said:
Howard's wife deserved the bullet.
DMSO?Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:My daughter is a vet, maybe I should ask her.Quad Dog said:
What kind of drug is absorbed through the skin that works that quickly and has that large of an impact?
Urban Ag said:ok thanks. Not sure any of that warrants a bullet to the wife. Maybe Spilner should ease up on the red bulls.Ervin Burrell said:They haven't delved into it much - I believe the first reference to it is when they showed Howard visiting a therapist a few episodes back in which he discusses some marriage problems. Then, in the cold open last episode with the coffee, they showed him getting ready for work in the guest house then walking to the main house's kitchen. And then of course he brought it up in his spiel to Kim and Jimmy right before getting shot.Urban Ag said:What's the back story on the wife and why Howard has to sleep in the pool house? I admit, I zoned out a lot on some of the lawyer story line. thanksBrian Earl Spilner said:
Howard's wife deserved the bullet.
Howard spent a lot of time and effort carefully making a peace sign in the foam of the espresso he made for her, and she just **** all over it by pouring it out of the mug into another container.
Absolutely horrid person.
Who will get both life insurance and his share.
And didn't clean up what she spilled on the counter. That pissed me off, and I felt genuinely bad for Howard.
It was an astonishingly elegant way to film the entire marriage in one telling scene.Brian Earl Spilner said:Urban Ag said:ok thanks. Not sure any of that warrants a bullet to the wife. Maybe Spilner should ease up on the red bulls.Ervin Burrell said:They haven't delved into it much - I believe the first reference to it is when they showed Howard visiting a therapist a few episodes back in which he discusses some marriage problems. Then, in the cold open last episode with the coffee, they showed him getting ready for work in the guest house then walking to the main house's kitchen. And then of course he brought it up in his spiel to Kim and Jimmy right before getting shot.Urban Ag said:What's the back story on the wife and why Howard has to sleep in the pool house? I admit, I zoned out a lot on some of the lawyer story line. thanksBrian Earl Spilner said:
Howard's wife deserved the bullet.
Howard spent a lot of time and effort carefully making a peace sign in the foam of the espresso he made for her, and she just **** all over it by pouring it out of the mug into another container.
Absolutely horrid person.
I've had 24 hours to think about it
This show is as good as sex
This show is as good as sex
Hmmm. You have some good sex.
You must be doing it wrong.Ghost of Bizbee said:
I've had 24 hours to think about it
This show is as good as sex
torrid said:DMSO?Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:My daughter is a vet, maybe I should ask her.Quad Dog said:
What kind of drug is absorbed through the skin that works that quickly and has that large of an impact?
How quickly would that get out of the system? They wouldn't want it showing up on an autopsy report. They have to get Mike to ditch Howard in the desert.
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They have to get Mike to ditch Howard in the desert.
Allright … when do we see Mesa Verde?
That's a storyline thats hanging out there.
That's a storyline thats hanging out there.
I figured they were done after agreeing to that settlement with Jimmy
Kim got what she needed from Viola, and Kevin had his last encounter with Jimmy at the country club. I think it's done
Kim got what she needed from Viola, and Kevin had his last encounter with Jimmy at the country club. I think it's done
bigjag19 said:
Who will get both life insurance and his share.
Assuming suicide isn't what's determined to have happened. Isn't life insurance forfeited in cases like that?
Gut feeling is that Mesa Verde will be back in the mix before it's all over.Ghost of Bizbee said:
I figured they were done after agreeing to that settlement with Jimmy
Kim got what she needed from Viola, and Kevin had his last encounter with Jimmy at the country club. I think it's done
Often depends on how long the policy has been in place.
This midseason break is less than ideal for me.
It takes mental horsepower to re-engage with a show like this.
I'd rather stay engaged and get through it in one shot.
It takes mental horsepower to re-engage with a show like this.
I'd rather stay engaged and get through it in one shot.
Final montage of BCS will show Kim sitting on the porch of some ranch in Mexico raising Lalo's kid and getting fat with the other abuelas,
Gus serving Huell Babanaux some chicken.
Gayle setting up the lab.
Jesse and Jane getting on dope.
Skylar being a ****.
Skinny pete and Badger doing what they do.
Gus serving Huell Babanaux some chicken.
Gayle setting up the lab.
Jesse and Jane getting on dope.
Skylar being a ****.
Skinny pete and Badger doing what they do.
It fit his arc perfectly. He was first scammed by Chuck, who he thought was a trusted colleague...but Howard was simply used to carry out Chuck's vendetta against Jimmy and punishing Kim. Then Chuck stabs Howard in the back in the end, after Howard stuck his neck out to support Chuck. It's obvious his marriage was failing, so maybe he was scammed there as well. Then he was scammed by Jimmy and Kim.oragator said:
And now Howard is the most tragic. He was a good man for the most part who got completely scammed and then killed. And the way they made him so vulnerable with that speech before killing him was just perfect.
I don't think Howard's character made the heroic turn like Hank did throughout the BB series, but he was certainly not the jerk he was portrayed to be at the beginning.
Deep down I just kept having this feeling that something was going to happen to Howard by someone in Jimmy/Kim's criminal world.
That was some brilliant writing. And the perfect way to leave things at the halfway point. How does Kim react? When do Kim/Jimmy fracture...was that the moment?
There are so many directions this could go. I think nearly everyone was expecting Kim to get caught or killed...but instead we get this.
Urban Ag said:ok thanks. Not sure any of that warrants a bullet to the wife. Maybe Spilner should ease up on the red bulls.Ervin Burrell said:They haven't delved into it much - I believe the first reference to it is when they showed Howard visiting a therapist a few episodes back in which he discusses some marriage problems. Then, in the cold open last episode with the coffee, they showed him getting ready for work in the guest house then walking to the main house's kitchen. And then of course he brought it up in his spiel to Kim and Jimmy right before getting shot.Urban Ag said:What's the back story on the wife and why Howard has to sleep in the pool house? I admit, I zoned out a lot on some of the lawyer story line. thanksBrian Earl Spilner said:
Howard's wife deserved the bullet.
Howard meticulously made a cappuccino for her with an artistic swirl in her cream. She just dumped it into her mug as if it was nothing.
Damn. I've been married to a Latina for over 22 years. I guess some of us just grow tougher skin.
What if the black and white flash forwards in Omaha actually take place pre-BB timeline? Has that been discussed? Maybe his supposed blown cover prompt him to return to ABQ?
Haven't we seen Gene call the vacuum guy and Mr Vacuum said something like "we've done this once before"
I just came to post this. I got the sense in the scenes when he's looking back at the Better Call Saul commercials that he was looking back fondly. I don't think he would do that if Kim were dead.cbr said:
i think if he knew kim was murdered, the gene reminiscing scenes would be more emotional. i think she makes it, somehow, but ditches him.
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Scud Runner said:
What if the black and white flash forwards in Omaha actually take place pre-BB timeline? Has that been discussed? Maybe his supposed blown cover prompt him to return to ABQ?
Didn't he watch some tapes of his old commercials?
Ghost of Bizbee said:bigjag19 said:
Who will get both life insurance and his share.
Assuming suicide isn't what's determined to have happened. Isn't life insurance forfeited in cases like that?
Usually just an exclusion on suicide in the first year or two of a policy. After that someone can blow their brains out and have it pay out
walton91 said:
Haven't we seen Gene call the vacuum guy and Mr Vacuum said something like "we've done this once before"
When he became Gene, no?
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This is more of a discussion since we have a couple of months, but still don't know what ABQ holds for Saul to go back to? Unless it's a Walt like score settling, but who is left to settle the score with? Why does Saul need to be there just so we can see a few of the BB characters? Seems contrived.Scud Runner said:
What if the black and white flash forwards in Omaha actually take place pre-BB timeline? Has that been discussed? Maybe his supposed blown cover prompt him to return to ABQ?
Kim is the only potential draw and keeping her in ABQ now after Howard's brains on the wall don't set up well for that. Maybe he wants to steal Betsy away?
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DannyDuberstein said:walton91 said:
Haven't we seen Gene call the vacuum guy and Mr Vacuum said something like "we've done this once before"
When he became Gene, no?
He did call the vacuum guy as Gene, after the cab driver figured him out. He backs out though. That's the last we've seen of Gene
There's no way Jimmy goes back to ABQ.
He's currently in Omaha. And again, the show has gone out of its way, over multiple seasons, to tell us that Kim is from Nebraska. Two flashback license plate shots, I think two verbal mentions, and then maybe a t-shirt appearance or two. There's absolutely no way that's not intentional. In fact, I would bet just about anything that the Gene timeline is leading toward *some* kind of Jimmy/Kim reunion. It's inevitable.
I'll go so far as to say Kim isn't vacuumed either. She merely returns home, a broken woman, a shell of her former self. And that's how Jimmy/Gene finds her, not living under some alias, but as herself.
He's currently in Omaha. And again, the show has gone out of its way, over multiple seasons, to tell us that Kim is from Nebraska. Two flashback license plate shots, I think two verbal mentions, and then maybe a t-shirt appearance or two. There's absolutely no way that's not intentional. In fact, I would bet just about anything that the Gene timeline is leading toward *some* kind of Jimmy/Kim reunion. It's inevitable.
I'll go so far as to say Kim isn't vacuumed either. She merely returns home, a broken woman, a shell of her former self. And that's how Jimmy/Gene finds her, not living under some alias, but as herself.
Are you guessing he didn't know Kim was there/hadn't seen her prior to his call to Vacuum Man desiring another disappearance? Either he didn't know she was there/hadn't seen her, or we are shown a fleeting and bittersweet meeting between the two that also clearly implies it's a one time meeting (meaning nothing to stop him from feeling Omaha) - I think one of those would be true if she's in Nebraska but he's willing to disappear again. Perhaps the reunion only happens after the cancelled call to the Vacuum guy as well.TCTTS said:
There's no way Jimmy goes back to ABQ.
He's in Omaha. And again, the show has gone out of its way, over multiple seasons, to tell us that Kim is from Nebraska. Two flashback license plate shots, I think two verbal mentions, and then maybe a t-shirt appearance or two. There's absolutely no way that's not intentional. In fact, I would bet just about anything that the Gene timeline is leading toward *some* kind of Jimmy/Kim reunion. It's inevitable.
I'll go so far as to say Kim isn't vacuumed either. She merely returns home, a broken woman, a shell of her former self. And that's how Jimmy/Gene finds her, not living under some alias, but as herself.
Depending on how much heat is on him, meeting with her puts her at risk.
Maybe he meets Kim's mother and apologizes?
Anything is possible with these writers but I also don't think they will kill Kim's character so a reunion is certainly possible.
Ghost of Bizbee said:DannyDuberstein said:walton91 said:
Haven't we seen Gene call the vacuum guy and Mr Vacuum said something like "we've done this once before"
When he became Gene, no?
He did call the vacuum guy as Gene, after the cab driver figured him out. He backs out though. That's the last we've seen of Gene
The poster above seemed to be referencing that scene and Jimmy/Gene's comment about having done it once before, and I was pointing out the once before and that it was for Jimmy, not Kim
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