This can't be said enough. The idea that we should treat these people with kid gloves because they got duped by the chans is absurd.Another Doug said:
Qanon is fake and it's believers should be laughed at
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Not everyone fell for it. That thread had a handful of posters at the most, and thousands of views. That fueled the posters to post more..speculate more, and keep the narrative going. What was missing was any actual things that resulted from QANON. I mean, there are still believers out there even though NOTHING that Q posted has actually happened. To keep falling for that, or keep believing that, you aren't living in reality. I did see lots of people just admit that there were fooled and stop believing. I don't really see this as a liberal or conservative issue. QANON made an outlandish statement, people went with it, and it just kept growing. Sorta like a cult.
And yeah, everything you read should be scrutinized. I've said this on F16 from the get go when it comes to the media. If you believe EVERYTHING that is published, you are being naive. The media, QANON, Sindey Powell, etc...all have 1 thing to gain from peddling bs to people...$$$. Money coming from fundraising, clicks on links, etc...all to keep YOU engaged in whatever agenda that they have. The more engagement you have, the more money they make. It's sorta like why F16 is dominated by Trump folks...and its allowed. The level of engagement is HIGH there, thus driving up traffic and making Texags $$$.
And yeah, everything you read should be scrutinized. I've said this on F16 from the get go when it comes to the media. If you believe EVERYTHING that is published, you are being naive. The media, QANON, Sindey Powell, etc...all have 1 thing to gain from peddling bs to people...$$$. Money coming from fundraising, clicks on links, etc...all to keep YOU engaged in whatever agenda that they have. The more engagement you have, the more money they make. It's sorta like why F16 is dominated by Trump folks...and its allowed. The level of engagement is HIGH there, thus driving up traffic and making Texags $$$.
I thought you guys said Trump inspired that, now it's Qanon? Keep guessing, when you hit Antifa and BLM you'll be closer to the truth.
The only person murdered as a direct result of the Capitol protest was a protestor, it was even captured on tape by an Antifa person in the capitol, hmmmm?
The only person murdered as a direct result of the Capitol protest was a protestor, it was even captured on tape by an Antifa person in the capitol, hmmmm?
Libs are being duped by things that are far more naive than Q. The wall came down, most North Koreans don't have electricity, and Venezuela is starving, and yet libs still think "it will work THIS time!!"WES2006AG said:This can't be said enough. The idea that we should treat these people with kid gloves because they got duped by the chans is absurd.Another Doug said:
Qanon is fake and it's believers should be laughed at
If anybody should be laughed at, it's them.
(And I wasn't a Q guy, btw)
What was TexAgs association with q-anon?A said:
My opinions on this thread....
Qanon is fake and it's believers should be laughed at
Texags association with q-anon was an embarrassment
I believe in well funded social programs
Social programs have been integral to America
Racism exists
Don't get news from tweets or tabloid op-eds
Note: above are opinions, not facts for those of you that have trouble telling the difference
Also, hard to consider 16chan "evil or mean" when they are all a bunch of whiny victims who fall for conspiracy theories
mazag08 said:Ya, just ignore that you think Russiagate wasn't a hoax and that you doubled and tripled down it. Nothing to see here.Another Doug said:mazag08 said:Some. Most economics I learned in my actual career to date. But I did learn some very basic principles at my state subsidized university that I paid 200% more than I should.Another Doug said:mazag08 said:ATM9000 said:cbr said:Charpie said:
This is true.
In order to fall for a conspiracy theory, you have to be weak minded and have something fundamentally missing in your life. It happens to lots of people. I mean, look at MFBARNES trolls that so many people fell for.
People in general are good. But sometimes people let the guard down when something that appeals to them gets tossed to them. Rather than being skeptical of things, we choose to believe. And it will bite you in the ass every single time.
Time to move on.
people cannot succeed in government, or in any venture using other people's money, by being good. only by being corrupt and devious.
You including public companies, churches and charities in this red hot well thought out take?
And here we are.. equivocating earned income and volunteered charity income with taxes. I always joke that the left is economically ignorant and then y'all go and prove me correct.
Did you learn that at your state subsidized university?
And what a bizarre take. You've got quite a few where you attempt to condescendingly slam dunk on those you are arguing with while forming some incredibly hypocritical and idiotic opinions.
But it's forum 13 where most are on team blue and you get lots of pats on the back for doing the exact thing that you claim evil mean forum 16 does.
So you've got that going for you.
My opinions on this thread....
Qanon is fake and it's believers should be laughed at
Texags association with q-anon was an embarrassment
I believe in well funded social programs
Social programs have been integral to America
Racism exists
Don't get news from tweets or tabloid op-eds
Note: above are opinions, not facts for those of you that have trouble telling the difference
Also, hard to consider 16chan "evil or mean" when they are all a bunch of whiny victims who fall for conspiracy theories
Go team blue go!
Yes missed that one, while I don't think Russia had anything to to with 2016 outcome, I don't consider the investigation initiated by the Trump administration that resulted in all those convictions a hoax.
Other opinions I forgot...
I hate Ted Cruz
I agree with Ted Cruz re: Trump
I didn't fall for Q-anon. So I would be like Marge coming in and telling both Lisa and Bart that they are stupid. But that Bart was more so since he fell for liberalism.Charpie said:
Very good post Charpie.Charpie said:
Not everyone fell for it. That thread had a handful of posters at the most, and thousands of views. That fueled the posters to post more..speculate more, and keep the narrative going. What was missing was any actual things that resulted from QANON. I mean, there are still believers out there even though NOTHING that Q posted has actually happened. To keep falling for that, or keep believing that, you aren't living in reality. I did see lots of people just admit that there were fooled and stop believing. I don't really see this as a liberal or conservative issue. QANON made an outlandish statement, people went with it, and it just kept growing. Sorta like a cult.
And yeah, everything you read should be scrutinized. I've said this on F16 from the get go when it comes to the media. If you believe EVERYTHING that is published, you are being naive. The media, QANON, Sindey Powell, etc...all have 1 thing to gain from peddling bs to people...$$$. Money coming from fundraising, clicks on links, etc...all to keep YOU engaged in whatever agenda that they have. The more engagement you have, the more money they make. It's sorta like why F16 is dominated by Trump folks...and its allowed. The level of engagement is HIGH there, thus driving up traffic and making Texags $$$.
The q stuff early on sounded promising to the average conservative but had a massive element of complete bull**** and "way too convenient to be true" to it. Most recognized that quickly put it in the rear view. A small contingent though WANTED to believe that all their fears about the government were secretly being dealt with and it would all be coming to light "soon", just like those who actually believed it was "two weeks to flatten the curve". Hell.. I have a coworker who legitimately believed until the day of inauguration that Trump was going to be president and refused to lose her faith.
Propaganda is designed to manipulate people. It almost always does its job. And we deal with propaganda, fake news, private interests, and alterior motives on a daily basis from almost all corners of information we take in.
We have groups of people who legitimately believed that Trump through an 8 chan proxy was fighting the swamp underground and it would be exposed any day now.
We have groups who legitimately believed that Trump was a Russian agent and that his election was the product of foreign meddling in the election and not the overwhelming heavy handed government and subdued economic and foreign policy environment that had developed coupled with the most unlikeable democratic candidate of all time.
We have groups of people who legitimately believe that aliens have been visiting our earth for years and that the government is hiding secret technology.
We have groups of people who legitimately believe that the earth is flat.
We have groups that legitimately believe the earth will end in 10 years because of climate change.
We have groups that legitimately believe that Jews control the entire world and have been manipulating governments and people for their own interests.
We have groups that legitimately believe that Coach Fran was secretly charging donors for a newsletter that provided insider info about the football program (oh wait.. that was real).
The Q phenomenon is not some new massive thing. It's just one that became very public and very toxic very fast due to the divisive political environment it was directly linked to and the punching bag material it gave to the other side who was willing to stick their fingers in their ears after four years of the greatest and most expensive hoax investigation in our country's history, brought about by a fabricated dossier paid for by a political opponent.
Same thing happened on the WandaVision thread. Plenty of cult-level speculation and wild theories which often were more exciting than the actual outcome. The eventual finale was in some ways so obvious that the people most invested in the speculation were disappointed with the banality of it all.Charpie said:
Not everyone fell for it. That thread had a handful of posters at the most, and thousands of views. That fueled the posters to post more..speculate more, and keep the narrative going. What was missing was any actual things that resulted from QANON. I mean, there are still believers out there even though NOTHING that Q posted has actually happened. To keep falling for that, or keep believing that, you aren't living in reality. I did see lots of people just admit that there were fooled and stop believing. I don't really see this as a liberal or conservative issue. QANON made an outlandish statement, people went with it, and it just kept growing. Sorta like a cult.
Don't forget that we have groups who think government social programs are good and that socialism is the key to prosperity.mazag08 said:Very good post Charpie.Charpie said:
Not everyone fell for it. That thread had a handful of posters at the most, and thousands of views. That fueled the posters to post more..speculate more, and keep the narrative going. What was missing was any actual things that resulted from QANON. I mean, there are still believers out there even though NOTHING that Q posted has actually happened. To keep falling for that, or keep believing that, you aren't living in reality. I did see lots of people just admit that there were fooled and stop believing. I don't really see this as a liberal or conservative issue. QANON made an outlandish statement, people went with it, and it just kept growing. Sorta like a cult.
And yeah, everything you read should be scrutinized. I've said this on F16 from the get go when it comes to the media. If you believe EVERYTHING that is published, you are being naive. The media, QANON, Sindey Powell, etc...all have 1 thing to gain from peddling bs to people...$$$. Money coming from fundraising, clicks on links, etc...all to keep YOU engaged in whatever agenda that they have. The more engagement you have, the more money they make. It's sorta like why F16 is dominated by Trump folks...and its allowed. The level of engagement is HIGH there, thus driving up traffic and making Texags $$$.
The q stuff early on sounded promising to the average conservative but had a massive element of complete bull**** and "way too convenient to be true" to it. Most recognized that quickly put it in the rear view. A small contingent though WANTED to believe that all their fears about the government were secretly being dealt with and it would all be coming to light "soon", just like those who actually believed it was "two weeks to flatten the curve".
Propaganda is designed to manipulate people. It almost always does its job. And we deal with propaganda, fake news, private interests, and alterior motives on a daily basis from almost all corners of information we take in.
We have groups of people who legitimately believed that Trump through an 8 chan proxy was fighting the swamp underground and it would be exposed any day now.
We have groups who legitimately believed that Trump was a Russian agent and that his election was the product of foreign meddling in the election and not the overwhelming heavy handed government and subdued economic and foreign policy environment that had developed coupled with the most unlikeable democratic candidate of all time.
We have groups of people who legitimately believe that aliens have been visiting our earth for years and that the government is hiding secret technology.
We have groups of people who legitimately believe that the earth is flat.
We have groups that legitimately believe the earth will end in 10 years because of climate change.
We have groups that legitimately believe that Jews control the entire world and have been manipulating governments and people for their own interests.
We have groups that legitimately believe that Coach Fran was secretly charging donors for a newsletter that provided insider info about the football program (oh wait.. that was real).
The Q phenomenon is not some new massive thing. It's just one that became very public and very toxic very fast due to the divisive political environment it was directly linked to and the punching bag material it gave to the other side who was willing to stick their fingers in their ears after four years of the greatest and most expensive hoax investigation in our country's history, brought about by a fabricated dossier paid for by a political opponent.
To be fair, I blame Screenrant for that. That dude created a large majority of the theories.tysker said:Same thing happened on the WandaVision thread. Plenty of cult-level speculation and wild theories which often were more exciting than the actual outcome. The eventual finale was in some ways so obvious that the people most invested in the speculation were disappointed with the banality of it all.Charpie said:
Not everyone fell for it. That thread had a handful of posters at the most, and thousands of views. That fueled the posters to post more..speculate more, and keep the narrative going. What was missing was any actual things that resulted from QANON. I mean, there are still believers out there even though NOTHING that Q posted has actually happened. To keep falling for that, or keep believing that, you aren't living in reality. I did see lots of people just admit that there were fooled and stop believing. I don't really see this as a liberal or conservative issue. QANON made an outlandish statement, people went with it, and it just kept growing. Sorta like a cult.
mazag08 said:Not offended at all. More dumbfounded at the complete lack of economic understanding. But I expect that when I come forum 13.ATM9000 said:mazag08 said:ATM9000 said:cbr said:Charpie said:
This is true.
In order to fall for a conspiracy theory, you have to be weak minded and have something fundamentally missing in your life. It happens to lots of people. I mean, look at MFBARNES trolls that so many people fell for.
People in general are good. But sometimes people let the guard down when something that appeals to them gets tossed to them. Rather than being skeptical of things, we choose to believe. And it will bite you in the ass every single time.
Time to move on.
people cannot succeed in government, or in any venture using other people's money, by being good. only by being corrupt and devious.
You including public companies, churches and charities in this red hot well thought out take?
And here we are.. equivocating earned income and volunteered charity income with taxes. I always joke that the left is economically ignorant and then y'all go and prove me correct.
Then that poster should not *****foot around with weird broad philosophical tales that make zero sense and just cut to the point which in reality is 'I don't like paying taxes' because that's what this comes down to doesn't it? I mean I don't like paying taxes either.
That's a hell of a lot more to the point than casting nonsense generalizations in order to call the government evil.
Sorry you are offended by me asking a question on what is unequivocally a really stupid take.
Oh... there's some economic understanding to be had out of that comment? Do tell.
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We have groups that legitimately believe that Coach Fran was secretly charging donors for a newsletter that provided insider info about the football program (oh wait.. that was real).
Nails. We got Fran on this thread now, we got Sherman. Who else wants some?
It's an extremely tough concept that equating taxation income with income earned from providing a good, service, or labor, and income earned through VOLUNTEERED charity of others shows a complete lack of basic economic understanding. And if you really want some reading material, check out the attempted gotcha replies to my post to see the point made even more clear.
When the Q stuff started coming out I immediately dismissed it because I had browsed 4chan before out of morbid curiosity and it was clearly nothing but a bunch of sick minded immature trolls from all over the world. The people that fell for Q should have done a little bit of research and they would have concluded the same. Their idiocy has tarnished the entire conservative movement and given the left ammunition to further label the right as conspiracy driven nut jobs
Likewise Liberals should have dismissed the Russia allegations as soon as they came out of the mouth of Hillary Clinton who's credibility is on par with the average 4 Chan poster. Instead many liberals still believe in some grand James Bond like conspiracy where the evil Russian dictator blackmailed a billionaire into running for office as a puppet and then using only $150K in Facebook ads (some of which were pro Hillary) to steer the election in the billionaire's favor and taking it away from the virtuous patriot Hillary Clinton. Then proceeding to control America despite suffering crippling sanctions the likes of which were never seen under the greatest man to walk the face of the earth Barack Obama. During this time the most expensive and far reaching investigations in American History only resulted in fishing expedition process crimes that could have been pinned on anyone and were unrelated to Russian collusion.
Everyone should question their sources, especially if your so called objective source parrots party line talking points as facts without presenting evidence, one sided/slanted evidence or is a far out claim promised to produce evidence which never comes to fruition or doesn't quickly do so. Both sides are equally guilty of this. Both sides have news networks that parrot their propaganda and lies without pushback. One side's media footprint is far larger and more impactful, which is undeniable. National ideological drift should be based on merit and not propaganda saturation. It's all harmful to this country and I wish all Americans would reject these agenda driven organizations.
Likewise Liberals should have dismissed the Russia allegations as soon as they came out of the mouth of Hillary Clinton who's credibility is on par with the average 4 Chan poster. Instead many liberals still believe in some grand James Bond like conspiracy where the evil Russian dictator blackmailed a billionaire into running for office as a puppet and then using only $150K in Facebook ads (some of which were pro Hillary) to steer the election in the billionaire's favor and taking it away from the virtuous patriot Hillary Clinton. Then proceeding to control America despite suffering crippling sanctions the likes of which were never seen under the greatest man to walk the face of the earth Barack Obama. During this time the most expensive and far reaching investigations in American History only resulted in fishing expedition process crimes that could have been pinned on anyone and were unrelated to Russian collusion.
Everyone should question their sources, especially if your so called objective source parrots party line talking points as facts without presenting evidence, one sided/slanted evidence or is a far out claim promised to produce evidence which never comes to fruition or doesn't quickly do so. Both sides are equally guilty of this. Both sides have news networks that parrot their propaganda and lies without pushback. One side's media footprint is far larger and more impactful, which is undeniable. National ideological drift should be based on merit and not propaganda saturation. It's all harmful to this country and I wish all Americans would reject these agenda driven organizations.
gomerschlep said:Remember that whole Capitol Hill riot/insurection thing? The one where police officers were killed?snowdog90 said:
Secondly, to label the Q movement as dangerous does not comport with reality. What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name? What violent acts has Q inspired or called for? Antifa and BLM have caused much more terror and violence, it's not even close. Yet, somehow the Q movement is "dangerous".
That one.
I'm really tired of debating this. It's questionable whether Q had anything to do with this. It's questionable who killed any police officers. There's video of the crowd being allowed through barriers and into the Capitol. Not one Q person was arrested with a weapon. Really stupid way to plan an insurrection to have everyone show up unarmed.
There's evidence that Antifa/BLM members were there to incite violence to make Trumpers look violent. Nevermind the fact that antifa/blm spent the previous 6 months rioting, looting, burning many cities. Months of ongoing terror and riots, and yet somehow Q is the most dangerous group in the country. It's laughable, but it's typical liberal propaganda. Enjoy your mind control.
gomerschlep said:
Remember that whole Capitol Hill riot/insurection thing? The one where police officers were killed?
That one.
Speaking of the great 2021 rebellion attempt whereby Nancy Pelosi courageously defended our republic as her forces subdued the coup attempt, and congress/Vice President assassination attempts by authoritarian leader Donald J Trump, the casualties suffered by the forces of good may be up for debate.
Shout the "crime", whisper and walk back the follow up on page 206.
Authorities have reviewed video and photographs that show Sicknick engaging with rioters amid the siege but have yet to identify a moment in which he suffered his fatal injuries, law enforcement officials familiar with the matter said.
medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html
What is our capital death total up to? Anyone catch covid and die from the event? Anyone have some other health issue that caused them to die?
Last I checked there were 6 or 7 "deaths". One chick was shot in the face. Others had very murky situations that were broadcast as deaths during the rebellion. An officer that was bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher (errr, had a stroke with no physical trauma), the lady that was trampled to death was not trampled and collapsed from a heart attack, someone else had a heart attack, a cop killed himself a few days after the event. The death tally can be staggering if we simply extend the tangential death effect to those not actually there but who were extremely stressed out about the situation to the point that they died. We could probably get to a hundred.
After finishing this, I'm surprised there has not been more talk on this thread about Jim Watkins in between the political fighting.
I mean, this guy has to be a pedophile or into some nefarious s***, right? He comes off as so f***ing creepy.
I mean, this guy has to be a pedophile or into some nefarious s***, right? He comes off as so f***ing creepy.
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So, so creepy. The pig farm... the porn sites... the nonchelant talk of murder... his overall vibe. Just a complete sociopath. When someone like him actually produces offspring, it literally results in Q. The entire family gave me the heebie jeebies.
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So, so creepy. The pig farm... the porn sites... the nonchelant talk of murder... his overall vibe. Just a complete sociopath. When someone like him actually produces offspring, it literally results in Q. The entire family gave me the heebie jeebies.
Not sure how this guy relates to Q, but he looks pretty crazy. I've never followed this guy or listened to him speak. I was part of the Q movement, I guess, but have no clue who this is.
By being part of the Q thread, I mean to say I would read posts in the Texags Q thread and form my own opinions. I've never been violent or incited violence as a result of Q.. To paint this guy with a broad brush of representing all Q followers is unfair.
The existence of Jeffrey Epstein is what made me start following Q. Billionaire human trafficker "suicide"?? No more arrests other than Ghislane Maxwell, his procurer. Had ties to Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak, countless powerful others. Media, for the most part, ignores the story while screaming about the Trump Russia Spy hoax every hour of every day... Something is out of whack. It only takes open eyes to see it.
mazag08 said:
It's an extremely tough concept that equating taxation income with income earned from providing a good, service, or labor, and income earned through VOLUNTEERED charity of others shows a complete lack of basic economic understanding. And if you really want some reading material, check out the attempted gotcha replies to my post to see the point made even more clear.
Nope... that's not what was said... even specified government 'or any venture'.
There was zero economic insight in that statement and you thinking there is something laid in there confirms that you'd probably offer no economic insights either.
Why do you insist on commenting in this thread so much without having even attempted to watch the doc yet? I mean, I know why - you can't help yourself - but you sound so utterly uninformed to be doing so, given the contents of the doc, and given the proven lunacy of the Q movement.
"To paint this guy with a broad brush of representing all Q followers is unfair." Watch the doc and then come back here and try to justify this sentence. I would love to see you try.
The very sentence, "I was part of the Q movement, I guess, but have no clue..." could not sum up this entire situation any more succinctly or perfectly.
"To paint this guy with a broad brush of representing all Q followers is unfair." Watch the doc and then come back here and try to justify this sentence. I would love to see you try.
The very sentence, "I was part of the Q movement, I guess, but have no clue..." could not sum up this entire situation any more succinctly or perfectly.
This was your comment.ATM9000 said:mazag08 said:
It's an extremely tough concept that equating taxation income with income earned from providing a good, service, or labor, and income earned through VOLUNTEERED charity of others shows a complete lack of basic economic understanding. And if you really want some reading material, check out the attempted gotcha replies to my post to see the point made even more clear.
Nope... that's not what was said... even specified government 'or any venture'.
There was zero economic insight in that statement and you thinking there is something laid in there confirms that you'd probably offer no economic insights either.
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You including public companies, churches and charities in this red hot well thought out take?
It is one of the stupidest and economically illiterate things muttered on texags outside of the two tea theory, not matter how you try and spin it.
mazag08 said:This was your comment.ATM9000 said:mazag08 said:
It's an extremely tough concept that equating taxation income with income earned from providing a good, service, or labor, and income earned through VOLUNTEERED charity of others shows a complete lack of basic economic understanding. And if you really want some reading material, check out the attempted gotcha replies to my post to see the point made even more clear.
Nope... that's not what was said... even specified government 'or any venture'.
There was zero economic insight in that statement and you thinking there is something laid in there confirms that you'd probably offer no economic insights either.Quote:
You including public companies, churches and charities in this red hot well thought out take?
It is one of the stupidest and economically illiterate things muttered on texags outside of the two tea theory, not matter how you try and spin it.
Welp... those are examples of other ventures that use other people's money that the poster made sure were included along with government. So... I guess I don't really understand why you are digging in on this point because you've really got no leg to stand on.
Epstein signed a plea deal in 2008, his antics and those around him have been known for years before Ron Watkins started duping people as Q.snowdog90 said:
The existence of Jeffrey Epstein is what made me start following Q. Billionaire human trafficker "suicide"?? No more arrests other than Ghislane Maxwell, his procurer. Had ties to Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak, countless powerful others. Media, for the most part, ignores the story while screaming about the Trump Russia Spy hoax every hour of every day... Something is out of whack. It only takes open eyes to see it.
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gomerschlep said:Remember that whole Capitol Hill riot/insurection thing? The one where police officers were killed?snowdog90 said:
Secondly, to label the Q movement as dangerous does not comport with reality. What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name? What violent acts has Q inspired or called for? Antifa and BLM have caused much more terror and violence, it's not even close. Yet, somehow the Q movement is "dangerous".
That one.
you mean the unarmed "insurrection"?
i can't believe you found 8 people to actually star that.
q is ****ing stupid, but so is nonsense like you posted.
Watched the second episode yesterday and was thinking the exact same thing. Got kinda of a vibe that he's one of those people who never really grew up and tried to have a kind of edgy humor to seem cool to those around him. Definitely hammered it home when they did the "Pen15" thing to the cameraman.TCTTS said:
So, so creepy. The pig farm... the porn sites... the nonchelant talk of murder... his overall vibe. Just a complete sociopath. When someone like him actually produces offspring, it literally results in Q. The entire family gave me the heebie jeebies.
Total epic reading fail on my part.ATM9000 said:mazag08 said:This was your comment.ATM9000 said:mazag08 said:
It's an extremely tough concept that equating taxation income with income earned from providing a good, service, or labor, and income earned through VOLUNTEERED charity of others shows a complete lack of basic economic understanding. And if you really want some reading material, check out the attempted gotcha replies to my post to see the point made even more clear.
Nope... that's not what was said... even specified government 'or any venture'.
There was zero economic insight in that statement and you thinking there is something laid in there confirms that you'd probably offer no economic insights either.Quote:
You including public companies, churches and charities in this red hot well thought out take?
It is one of the stupidest and economically illiterate things muttered on texags outside of the two tea theory, not matter how you try and spin it.
Welp... those are examples of other ventures that use other people's money that the poster made sure were included along with government. So... I guess I don't really understand why you are digging in on this point because you've really got no leg to stand on.
I saw your quote but never saw this which you've been trying to beat me over the head with and I've been too stubborn to go back and read.
You are absolutely correct and your examples are definitely ways in which using other people's money (investment equity, fundraising equity, charitable donations) can be put to good.Quote:
people cannot succeed in government, or in any venture using other people's money, by being good. only by being corrupt and devious.
Honestly.. very sorry for being so stupidly bull headed. Clear example of reacting a post without reading for the full context. I deserve many shame.
I absolutely do not understand this talking point at all.ruddyduck said:gomerschlep said:Remember that whole Capitol Hill riot/insurection thing? The one where police officers were killed?snowdog90 said:
Secondly, to label the Q movement as dangerous does not comport with reality. What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name? What violent acts has Q inspired or called for? Antifa and BLM have caused much more terror and violence, it's not even close. Yet, somehow the Q movement is "dangerous".
That one.
you mean the unarmed "insurrection"?
i can't believe you found 8 people to actually star that.
q is ****ing stupid, but so is nonsense like you posted.
"What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name?"
"The Capitol Hill riot."
"tHeY wErE uNaRmEd! dOeSn'T cOuNt!"
Since when is there a requirement that someone be armed to commit violence? Are people really claiming violence didn't occur because there were no shootings (from the rioters)?
Also, since when is there a requirement that someone be armed to be engaged in an insurrection? There are plenty of arguments to make that Jan. 6 fails to meet the legal standard to constitute an insurrection, but "tHeY wErE uNaRmEd!" is not a compelling one by any means.
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MASAXET said:I absolutely do not understand this talking point at all.ruddyduck said:gomerschlep said:Remember that whole Capitol Hill riot/insurection thing? The one where police officers were killed?snowdog90 said:
Secondly, to label the Q movement as dangerous does not comport with reality. What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name? What violent acts has Q inspired or called for? Antifa and BLM have caused much more terror and violence, it's not even close. Yet, somehow the Q movement is "dangerous".
That one.
you mean the unarmed "insurrection"?
i can't believe you found 8 people to actually star that.
q is ****ing stupid, but so is nonsense like you posted.
"What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name?"
"The Capitol Hill riot."
"tHeY wErE uNaRmEd! dOeSn'T cOuNt!"
Since when is there a requirement that someone be armed to commit violence? Are people really claiming violence didn't occur because there were no shootings (from the rioters)?
Also, since when is there a requirement that someone be armed to be engaged in an insurrection? There are plenty of arguments to make that Jan. 6 fails to meet the legal standard to constitute an insurrection, but "tHeY wErE uNaRmEd!" is not a compelling one by any means.
i'm not the one making a bunch of larping dip****s out to be seal team 6 taking over the capital. maybe it would have been ok if they were all wearing vagina hats or something?
sorry...iF tHeY wORe vAgInA hAts wOulD tHat BE LeSs ScARy fOr yOu?!?
That sure is some serious projection from you. Who on here is doing anything even remotely within the same vein as making them out to be seal team 6? I sure haven't seen that. It definitely wasn't in the post you responded to either.ruddyduck said:MASAXET said:I absolutely do not understand this talking point at all.ruddyduck said:gomerschlep said:Remember that whole Capitol Hill riot/insurection thing? The one where police officers were killed?snowdog90 said:
Secondly, to label the Q movement as dangerous does not comport with reality. What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name? What violent acts has Q inspired or called for? Antifa and BLM have caused much more terror and violence, it's not even close. Yet, somehow the Q movement is "dangerous".
That one.
you mean the unarmed "insurrection"?
i can't believe you found 8 people to actually star that.
q is ****ing stupid, but so is nonsense like you posted.
"What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name?"
"The Capitol Hill riot."
"tHeY wErE uNaRmEd! dOeSn'T cOuNt!"
Since when is there a requirement that someone be armed to commit violence? Are people really claiming violence didn't occur because there were no shootings (from the rioters)?
Also, since when is there a requirement that someone be armed to be engaged in an insurrection? There are plenty of arguments to make that Jan. 6 fails to meet the legal standard to constitute an insurrection, but "tHeY wErE uNaRmEd!" is not a compelling one by any means.
i'm not the one making a bunch of larping dip****s out to be seal team 6 taking over the capital. maybe it would have been ok if they were all wearing vagina hats or something?
sorry...iF tHeY wORe vAgInA hAts wOulD tHat BE LeSs ScARy fOr yOu?!?
For what it's worth, you're right that those rioters are a bunch of dip****s, losers, and morons. I don't understand how that is mutually exclusive from them also being violent that day.
The general claim by the left is that it was an organized insurrection; although, the organized part is not referenced in the post he is responding to. If it were really an organized insurrection, then there would have been weapons and some sort of plan. This was nothing more than a protest where a bunch of violent idiots stormed the capitol and Capitol police allowed many of them past the barriers. Labeling it an insurrection is political theater and nothing more. It was no more an insurrection than the AntiFa/BLM "mostly peaceful" protests that ransacked government buildings and harmed government servants all summer long. There was never any actual danger of our government being taken over.MASAXET said:I absolutely do not understand this talking point at all.ruddyduck said:gomerschlep said:Remember that whole Capitol Hill riot/insurection thing? The one where police officers were killed?snowdog90 said:
Secondly, to label the Q movement as dangerous does not comport with reality. What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name? What violent acts has Q inspired or called for? Antifa and BLM have caused much more terror and violence, it's not even close. Yet, somehow the Q movement is "dangerous".
That one.
you mean the unarmed "insurrection"?
i can't believe you found 8 people to actually star that.
q is ****ing stupid, but so is nonsense like you posted.
"What acts of violence have been carried out in Q's name?"
"The Capitol Hill riot."
"tHeY wErE uNaRmEd! dOeSn'T cOuNt!"
Since when is there a requirement that someone be armed to commit violence? Are people really claiming violence didn't occur because there were no shootings (from the rioters)?
Also, since when is there a requirement that someone be armed to be engaged in an insurrection? There are plenty of arguments to make that Jan. 6 fails to meet the legal standard to constitute an insurrection, but "tHeY wErE uNaRmEd!" is not a compelling one by any means.
Ever ask why almost every Democrat narrative is a lie or gross misrepresentation of the truth? Why can't they win arguments simply on the merits of their positions without lying? Is storming the capitol resulting in death, destruction, and violence not enough because it's too easily equated to the actions of their own supporters? The constant lying has to stop!
Edit to add: MASAXET, the last paragraph wasn't necessarily aimed at you because I know you're just going along with the narratives created by others which is a phenomenon we see across the political spectrum. I hope you didn't take that as me accusing you of creating these lies. We've all been guilty of it, especially if we haven't taken the time to research the truth. My complaints are with the one's who create the narratives. So often they are based on complete and total falsehoods because it scores more political points to claim racism for example. Most of the time there are legitimate arguments that could be made if approached from a position of honesty. I realize that this is not unique to Democrat supporters but it seems to be the case from that crowd with almost every issue these days. I'm just sick of the constant lies and really wish both sides could debate the issues honestly and figure out what's best for the country instead of lying and defaming each other. It's only increasing polarization.
The deep state FBI fake arrested so many of them.
TCTTS said:
Why do you insist on commenting in this thread so much without having even attempted to watch the doc yet? I mean, I know why - you can't help yourself - but you sound so utterly uninformed to be doing so, given the contents of the doc, and given the proven lunacy of the Q movement.
"To paint this guy with a broad brush of representing all Q followers is unfair." Watch the doc and then come back here and try to justify this sentence. I would love to see you try.
The very sentence, "I was part of the Q movement, I guess, but have no clue..." could not sum up this entire situation any more succinctly or perfectly.
It is fair to say I am uninformed on this documentary. I will start watching it today. As for being uninformed, you have not the first clue about what the Q movement was to people like me. You see me as a conspiracy nut, but you have absolutely no knowledge of who I am or what I believe. The people providing the information in the Texags Q thread were smart, rational, thoughtful people. There are also some wacky ideas on the fringes, but that was never directly from "Q". Mole kids, lizard people, JFK Jr. alive... crazy stuff, but not started by "Q". That stuff was started by fringe people and was never to my knowledge subscribed to by the majority of texags Q followers.
As I said, I'll watch this doc and give my thoughts here.
Please forgive me if I wander into politics too much. I'm very passionate about my beliefs, it's taken me 54 years to get where I am. I've seen a lot, I've lived through a lot. I see a country moving in a dangerous direction and that direction has nothing to do with Q, and it's not a conservative/liberal thing totally. This direction was as much exacerbated by Bush 1 and 2 as it was by Clinton and Obama.
In Q, I saw someone pointing to the true perpetrators of this direction, and I had hope that massive change could happen, giving power back to the people instead of Washington. Didn't happen. We'll see what the future has in store, I have almost no hope that things will get better for the masses, but hopefully I'm wrong.
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