https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/25/entertainment/frasier-reboot-paramount-plus-scli-intl/index.html

I came here to ***** but see that Kelsey grammer is on board. I hope David Hyde pierce is down also!

I miss 90s TV. Simpler time.

I just want a marice focused show.

Wow!

One of my all time favorites.

And Unpopular Opinion Ahead: Frasier was superior to Cheers (And I loved Cheers too btw).

Gonna be interesting to see if Niles and Daphne are in. Also, Martin was gold on the original and I'm sure he's going to be sorely missed but they may find other ways to fill his void. Cheers replaced Coach masterfully with Woody. And Frasier gave us Martin. (certainly not the same type characters but memorable side characters nonetheless)

So many great and interesting tidbits about the show...

The show tackled homosexuality throughout the series, which was groundbreaking in the 1990s. Most men on the show are gay, including Martin, Niles, Bulldog, and Gil. It was also presented in a way that wasn't shocking at all and, in fact, just normal, everyday thing... very similar to how *****t's Creek uses it on the show.

David Hyde Pierce plays the piano in all his scenes. Always liked that one.

Eddie was replaced by his "son" after season 7. The original Eddie was brought back at the age of 14 on the finale to get one last show. One of Eddie's offspring was adopted by Roz.

The actor that played the dad (John Mahoney) on the show was the person that taught everyone all the "finer things" that Niles and Frasier discussed, like art and wine and opera. In reality, he was more like Niles/Frasier and Kelsey Grammar was more like the dad.

Also, I had read some time ago that the most original idea behind the Cheers spinoff with Frasier was actually going to be about Frasier and his polar opposite brother and was still going to be based in Boston.

I think it was a stroke of genius to say "no, instead of making them polar opposites...lets make them really really similar and have them play off one another that way, and then make the DAD the polar opposite and throw him into the mix instead".

Carlo4 said:

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The show tackled homosexuality throughout the series, which was groundbreaking in the 1990s. Most men on the show are gay, including Martin, Niles, Bulldog, and Gil. It was also presented in a way that wasn't shocking at all and, in fact, just normal, everyday thing... very similar to how *****t's Creek uses it on the show.

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I am not sure what you mean here. The actors playing the parts were gay, but Martin, Niles and Bulldog weren't gay in the show. The joke of Gil's character was that he was hiding in the closet.

This is great and all, but when are we getting the Space Fraser reboot?

Shai-Hulud said:

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Carlo4 said:

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The show tackled homosexuality throughout the series, which was groundbreaking in the 1990s. Most men on the show are gay, including Martin, Niles, Bulldog, and Gil. It was also presented in a way that wasn't shocking at all and, in fact, just normal, everyday thing... very similar to how *****t's Creek uses it on the show.

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I am not sure what you mean here. The actors playing the parts were gay, but Martin, Niles and Bulldog weren't gay in the show. The joke of Gil's character was that he was hiding in the closet.

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Several episodes added situations were people thought Frasier or Niles or the dad was gay. The Matchmaker added in a simple misunderstanding that Frasiers new boss wanted to date him and Frasier was really trying to get a date for Daphne. The idea that it was no big deal... was a big deal on a sitcom back then.

Everyone who created the show and worked on the show contributed to a show environment that doesn't treat various subjects with an unnecessary spotlight. Here's a blog discussing it more.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/vitamingay.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/the-incredibly-gay-cast-of-frasier-surprise/amp/

They already did a Frasier reboot.

Geez, it ended 17 years ago?!

Show jumped pretty badly once Niles and Daphne got together, but it had some of the best writing and performances of any sitcom.

israeliag said:

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This is great and all, but when are we getting the Space Fraser reboot?

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I'd pay to watch this star trek. Then they'd bring in Niles and there'd be witty banter:

"FIRE ON THE KLINGONS NILES!!!! Then afterward a delightful glass of Chardonnay. Really Captain? Chardonnay? This time of year?"

Great show. I can't believe this was 17 years ago and that it ran on its own for 11 years. Wow.

This will be a very challenging show to make in 2021 considering his occupation. They would almost have to avoid any scenes of him working altogether.

Just can't help but think this won't be super successful but I'm interested!

My favorite line from that was when Sideshow Bob jumps on his brothers back and covers his eyes then says "guess who". And Cecil responds ""Maris?"

Roz was hot for the time

I don't think Bulldog would be able to be a character nowadays.

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I don't think Bulldog would be able to be a character nowadays.

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I dont think the tossed salad and scrambled eggs theme song would be appropriate either.

Niles played the piano in every scene?

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I don't think Bulldog would be able to be a character nowadays.

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I dont think the tossed salad and scrambled eggs theme song would be appropriate either.

Niles played the piano in every scene?

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I think it would still fly.

https://www.vulture.com/2012/04/frasiers-tossed-salads-and-scrambled-eggs-explained-finally.html

2018 when taking a boat tour around Puget sound, they told us where Frazier fictional apartment would've been.

I guess it's like in San Antonio, when on a riverboat tour, they tell you where Carol Burnett was born. Can't imagine anyone under 40 knowing who that is.

CoziTV channel on YouTube TV plays Fraiser from 7-8pm, wife and I love watching after dinner most nights.

We quickly change the channel when Roseanne music starts playing...

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The joke of Gil's character was that he was hiding in the closet.

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True. I always wondered how well known GK Chesterton was for a sitcom to make a running joke of having the uptight anglophile named "Gil Chesterton."

One of my favorite exchanges in the show was when Frasier told Noel that Star Trek is "just a TV show," and Noel shoots back "So was Brideshead Revisited!" and Frasier gets flustered.

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Son would would be 30 ish by now, so there is that to play off of. Could even be married with kid(s)

Chicago setting can be interesting, if they keep to the end of the prior series.

DYK: Lisa Kudrow was originally hired for the Roz role, but was replaced before shooting began.

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Kudrow would have been terrible.

I will defend the Ski Lodge as an alltime great episode of any show until i die.

Show would be cancelled in today's culture. "High brow" humor today is nonexistent because it cant be observational or even smart word play because words hurt.

Don't get me wrong as Frasier is one of my all time favs but I always get a kick out of Frasier never really drinking beer on the show and almost being above beer and only partaking in fine alcohol or cherry. When on Cheers he only drank beer at the bar. Also the spinoff Frasier character would really really not be likely to hang out at Cheers w the likes of Norm, Woody, Cliff, and Carla.

Just a couple observations I always got a kick out of.

The thing that always bothered me in retrospect was that Frasier never reacted or commented on Cheers that the hacky jingle writer looked EXACTLY like his father.

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Show would be cancelled in today's culture. "High brow" humor today is nonexistent because it cant be observational or even smart word play because words hurt.

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Kind of where I was going earlier. I just don't see this being successful. They will have to dumb it down and sterilize it.

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Hopefully goes better than the Mad About You attempt. Original show wasn't Frasier in quality by any definition, but the continuation comparable to this idea was apparently pretty bad.

SJEAg said:

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Hopefully goes better than the Mad About You attempt. Original show wasn't Frasier in quality by any definition, but the continuation comparable to this idea was apparently pretty bad.

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Here's the thing. If it's good, we'll enjoy it. If it's not, we don't watch and it gets cancelled.

I only watched about half of Frazier. If it was on, I watched it. I'll definitely watch a reboot. Especially if they can get the gang back together.

israeliag said:

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This is great and all, but when are we getting the Space Fraser reboot?

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Fun fact - they wanted to bring back Kirstie Alley as Saavik for this scene with Kelsey Grammer but she wasn't available when they filmed the episode.

Frasier never gets its just due when people talk about all time great TV series, some of the best comedic acting and writing of all time.