New Guitar Day

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Completed another little mini project, I thought some may be interested in (also, it's never a bad thing getting to show off this Lester's beautiful top). So, my ES-330 and ES-335 both have ABR-1 bridges and my LP Standard has always had a Nashville style bridge. I really love as vintage as possible, so have always lamented having to use the fat Nashville bridge instead of an ABR-1. Do I buy that an ABR-1 has less pieces and provides better contact with the body, thereby providing better tone and sustain? I don't know, but I still always preferred the ABR-1.

Well, apparently Faber has a conversion kit with their ABR version bridge, so I placed an order. Great customer service from Faber because I immediately got an email telling me I probably ordered the wrong ABR from them (They have 3-4 different versions) based on the conversion kit being part of the order. He said to go with a different SKU that was made for this kit, which I did. Love when a company actually cares, like that.

It all arrived today, and I installed it during lunch. First, took off the strings and did a quick fret polish, brush off, and oil:



Next, took off the Nashville bridge and unscrewed the threaded posts you set the bridge on:



They provide a simple long screw with a wing nut end to screw in there and eventually pry the anchor bushings out of the body. Here's a look at the Nashville bridge (top) and the ABR with conversion kit (bottom):



Something I had read about this kind of project is to always check the depth of your mounting routes. Mine were 2-3mm too shallow, causing the new posts to stick out just a bit. I didn't have a drill or anything, but I was able to get a small flathead screw driver and basically chisel just enough wood out of the hole to allow the posts to completely install. However, the posts were not as snug as I would have liked. They could easily be pulled in and out, causing a little bit of wiggle. Luckily, I had some 3m aluminum foil tape from a home project I had done, and wrapped a little strip around each posts to help them fit nice and snug:



From there, just had to drop on the bridge, install the strings, check neck relief, sting height, intonation, and I'm done!



Big difference? Couldn't confidently tell you. I know I prefer it, so that's all that matters. I would have to A/B both options and really listen closely for any differences. For anyone interested in going with an ABR-1 style bridge instead of a Nashville style, this was a very simple conversion kit I would highly recommend.
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Anybody have experience with one of these ToneWood amps? I'd never heard of one until my guitar teacher told me about them tonight. The reviews here on Sweetwater are great and it seems like a nice tool for when travelling and not wanting to lug a big amp with you for certain occasions.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TWA-SOLO--tonewoodamp-solo-for-electro-acoustic-guitars

maroon barchetta
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No, but now I have a new video to watch.
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Looking for advice and I probably know the answer, I just don't like it. I have two kids who have been taking lessons for about two years, 10 and 12. The play on a squire junior and a Chinese made acoustic, Arbor, from the 80s.

I feel like it is time to get a full size electric, but a 3/4 acoustic, the size of my wife's acoustic is hard for them to play. I love Tele's, so I have an eye on this MiM telecaster at guitar center for $680, and also looking at a Taylor GS mini from a local independent shop.

The younger 'loves the curves'of the strat, which is what their squire is. The oldest likes country so I push the Tele. Am I just wasting money and should buy cheaper alternatives at this age? I also need someone to tell me not to push my wishes, the tele, on my kids and to get them a start.

If I go a strat, I feel like I should look at Yamaha's or Ibanez and save some money.
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Fleff said:

Looking for advice and I probably know the answer, I just don't like it. I have two kids who have been taking lessons for about two years, 10 and 12. The play on a squire junior and a Chinese made acoustic, Arbor, from the 80s.

I feel like it is time to get a full size electric, but a 3/4 acoustic, the size of my wife's acoustic is hard for them to play. I love Tele's, so I have an eye on this MiM telecaster at guitar center for $680, and also looking at a Taylor GS mini from a local independent shop.

The younger 'loves the curves'of the strat, which is what their squire is. The oldest likes country so I push the Tele. Am I just wasting money and should buy cheaper alternatives at this age? I also need someone to tell me not to push my wishes, the tele, on my kids and to get them a start.

If I go a strat, I feel like I should look at Yamaha's or Ibanez and save some money.


I dunno, but I would think each wants his own, so buy an appropriate quality strat and tele and see how they turn out with it. Maybe go partridge family and hit the road with them...
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Buy a guitar they want. Part of wanting to pickup the guitar is actually loving the guitar.

EDIT: I should say a guitar they want, in your price range.
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Fleff said:

Looking for advice and I probably know the answer, I just don't like it. I have two kids who have been taking lessons for about two years, 10 and 12. The play on a squire junior and a Chinese made acoustic, Arbor, from the 80s.

I feel like it is time to get a full size electric, but a 3/4 acoustic, the size of my wife's acoustic is hard for them to play. I love Tele's, so I have an eye on this MiM telecaster at guitar center for $680, and also looking at a Taylor GS mini from a local independent shop.

The younger 'loves the curves'of the strat, which is what their squire is. The oldest likes country so I push the Tele. Am I just wasting money and should buy cheaper alternatives at this age? I also need someone to tell me not to push my wishes, the tele, on my kids and to get them a start.

If I go a strat, I feel like I should look at Yamaha's or Ibanez and save some money.


My first guitar was a bday gift. BC Rich Warlock Bronze edition. After I picked it up and really got "good", joined a band in middle school and then did battle of the bands in high school. My dad started upgrading my equipment
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Do they take lessons because they like playing, want to improve, and are showing improvement? If yes, buy what you feel comfortable affording that is as close as possible to what they want.

If they play because they are told to, do as little as possible to check the box.

If they love it, feed it. Playing guitar and making music are two of the best lifelong skills/hobbies a person can do. Supports loneliness, encourages group participation, and everything in between. As long as health permits I'll play until I die. Learning to play is the single best thing I've ever done for myself. I'd choose my wife over guitar if forced, but guitar otherwise will follow me till death. God forbid I don't lose my wife, get a divorce, etc. guitar will continue to be a source of pride and comfort, whatever hand I'm dealt.
Staff - take out the trash.
Fleff
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I was hoping the tele guy would back me up. So disappointed.

Strat style it will be. Now need to decide if I get a MiM or one of the many alternative manufacturers.

Will still get the GS mini because my son lit up so much on that guitar, want to get him something he is excited about, just like the strat over tele.
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Should have NGD on Monday! Been pining over a Martin 000-18 or 28 (prefer the hog 18) and found a smokin deal on a like new Eastman E8OM-TC that seems like a logical step towards the Martin 000 when I'm ready to spend the $$$.
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Fleff said:

I was hoping the tele guy would back me up. So disappointed.

Strat style it will be. Now need to decide if I get a MiM or one of the many alternative manufacturers.

Will still get the GS mini because my son lit up so much on that guitar, want to get him something he is excited about, just like the strat over tele.
No one really appreciates Telecasters until they turn 30.
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Also... you'll never hear me say Teles are better than Strats or Strats are better than Teles. Both are completely different instruments and I have 2 of each. It just so happens that my Telecaster is my only Custom Shop guitar, and is the best playing or sounding guitar I have ever played. If I had never played that one, then I would probably say my Strat is the best Fender I have played. Just comes down to the specific guitar.

But, then again, I love my Gibsons as well. I don't ever see me selling my LP, 330, or 335. I live by the mantra:

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Any thoughts or experience on/with the Eventide H9 (or max)?

I think it only does 1 effect at a time, so if I want a delay and reverb from the unit, I can't do both at once, correct?

The bang for your buck by having 100% of their tones in one pedal is offset in that you can't run 2 at the same time, which you could if you purchased 2 of their effect genre specific multi algorithm units?

I wanted their micro pitch delay pedal, but that's part of the h9, which also has all of their other delays, reverbs, etc.

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maroon barchetta
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Stopped in at GC just south of I-10 near the Heights in Houston yesterday. Had not been to that one and had some time to kill.

Saw this Strat and got a photo to send to a friend that plays a lot and had one similar to this in '89. Still not sure what Fender was thinking with that branding.

The Spector is just because I wanted a pic to send to my big brother. He was a monster bass player back in the day. I pretended to be a bass player back in the day. I always loved the look of the Spector after seeing that Wishing Well video from Terrance Trent D'Arby in the 80's. His bass player had a maroon one or close that color. I wanted it but was a teenager without thousands of dollars for a bass that I had no business playing.

This GC visit was good. There were a couple guys playing Strats that we tearing up some funk. They looked they were linebackers for the Texans. Dudes were BIG! They were playing some good stuff. Much better than what I normally hear in a GC.

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maroon barchetta said:

I always loved the look of the Spector after seeing that Wishing Well video from Terrance Trent D'Arby in the 80's. His bass player had a maroon one or close that color. I wanted it but was a

You had me at hello.



maroon barchetta
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Stupid Deal of the Day is a sweet looking guitar that's a 335 body style but I don't know the manufacturer.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?source=3TPBA1BD&dtm_em=c68f5d8da5f25bc8f30d2939207fc911
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K Bo said:

Should have NGD on Monday! Been pining over a Martin 000-18 or 28 (prefer the hog 18) and found a smokin deal on a like new Eastman E8OM-TC that seems like a logical step towards the Martin 000 when I'm ready to spend the $$$.


NGD!


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Need a used Taylor?

https://texags.com/forums/50/topics/3330561/replies/63312587#63312587
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Anybody here looking for a fender jazz bass by any chance?

https://texags.com/forums/50/topics/3330674/replies/63314673
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K Bo said:

K Bo said:

Should have NGD on Monday! Been pining over a Martin 000-18 or 28 (prefer the hog 18) and found a smokin deal on a like new Eastman E8OM-TC that seems like a logical step towards the Martin 000 when I'm ready to spend the $$$.


NGD!



Happy NGD! Eastman makes great suff. Excellent QC. I have an SB 56 Goldtop and plan on getting a 55/V some day.
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It's so much better than I could have imagined. It plays beautifully has a great range of tones.
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https://www.guitarworld.com/news/martin-parlor-guitar-1870s
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Prices definitely seem to be dropping hard on reverb. We're getting to the point that there's some really good deals out there now.
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Anybody in the market for an Epiphone 335? Musician's Friend has a deal going today.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?source=3TPBA1BD&dtm_em=c68f5d8da5f25bc8f30d2939207fc911
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I love the aesthetics of the new Noel Gallagher Riviera.

Staff - take out the trash.
maroon barchetta
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It's purty.
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Thought this group might appreciate this.

Guitar buddy saw Marcus King in Austin a few weeks back and had the band sign the poster. Just gave it to me for my birfday.
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That's badass!
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I'm starting to get the bug for a couple of additional guitars--maybe three (probably thanks to this group here!). Likely a Les Paul and a Telecaster.

The Telecaster goes back to High School and the church had one that had such great sound--this was the late 70's although who knows what year that guitar was made. Also played a 5 string Tele tuned Keith Richard's style at a friend's house and all the rolling stones tunes came to life effortlessly.

On the Les Paul, seems like the Gibson LP Studio is a great value and the lower weight might be a benefit too.

What are you folk's thoughts on models and vintage--I'm interested in the sound but want to keep the cost down, but also more want to stay with Gibson and Fender brands...
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Up my alley on both conversations.

Budget is #1. You can find a fantastic guitar among more basic models and higher models. You can find duds in both, as well.

First thing is to know your budget. From there, you can start assessing the various models.

With Teles, you can start touching used custom shop guitars for $2,600 and up. For Les Pauls, that gets you a new Standard.

As I've said many times on this thread, I love my Les Paul. Fantastic 2002 Standard I bought used for $2,100 with a Plus top. However, my Custom Shop tele is the best guitar I've ever heard or played. I have played several Custom Shop guitars, and this one far outshines the others. I also bought it new from Fullers for $3,250.
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ravingfans said:

I'm starting to get the bug for a couple of additional guitars--maybe three (probably thanks to this group here!). Likely a Les Paul and a Telecaster.

The Telecaster goes back to High School and the church had one that had such great sound--this was the late 70's although who knows what year that guitar was made. Also played a 5 string Tele tuned Keith Richard's style at a friend's house and all the rolling stones tunes came to life effortlessly.

On the Les Paul, seems like the Gibson LP Studio is a great value and the lower weight might be a benefit too.

What are you folk's thoughts on models and vintage--I'm interested in the sound but want to keep the cost down, but also more want to stay with Gibson and Fender brands...
I can personally recommend the Les Paul Studio. If you don't care about flamed top or binding it's basically a Standard. I like the non- blinged vibe so I actually prefer it visually to the Standard (I realize I'm in the minority on that). And yes the ultra weight relief makes a big difference - I think mine is right around 8 lbs if not a little under.

I also prefer the Studio pickups but easy to swap if they don't do it for you.
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Idk... i've not played a Studio that feels anything like my standard. My Classic also doesn't feel as good.

I would agree about the pickups, though. I hate the 490T and 490R pickups. Also, I think the studio uses a PCB for the controls, which you can definitely hear a difference from. Granted, you could also fix this issue while you're swapping pickups.
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DallasTeleAg said:

Idk... i've not played a Studio that feels anything like my standard. My Classic also doesn't feel as good.

I would agree about the pickups, though. I hate the 490T and 490R pickups. Also, I think the studio uses a PCB for the controls, which you can definitely hear a difference from. Granted, you could also fix this issue while you're swapping pickups.
I had a 60's Standard, Modern and Studio at the same time and ended up sticking with the Studio. The 60's was stunning to look at but I didn't really enjoy playing it. The Modern was just weird (played amazingly though). But who knows. I could pick up two different Studios and Standards tomorrow and feel completely different. At some point I'm going to go on a pilgrimage and play every damn LP in DFW until I find the one that is undeniable. I love them but I often don't get along with them.

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Thanks all--great info!

In my wanderings, I came across this run down of Les Pauls, and sharing here (mostly so I can find it later!!)

https://musicstrive.com/best-years-for-gibson-les-paul/
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