New Guitar Day

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MIM Strats are great guitars for the money. I would always choose those over a Squier, and it's not even a consideration.

I don't understand going cheaper than $500 on a guitar (new), unless you just don't have the money. The difference in quality between a MIM Fender in the $500-$900 range is huge, compared to a Squier below $300.

I always recommend buying used, if possible.
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maroon barchetta said:

K Bo said:

Gracias. Will check out the Sire guitars while I wait to hear back from FB seller.


I know Anderton's sells equipment so they aren't going to bash them in a product review video, but Pete really seems to like these Sires and is amazed by the price.
Sounds like I'm picking up the MIM strat for $400 tomorrow. I'll still check out the Sire guitars, though.
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I understand that. It's not necessarily about money it's more about my tendency to go full tilt when I get in to a hobby I like. A year or two ago I wouldn't have thought twice about buying the Martin 000-18 and American Pro II strat that I want. I'm trying to wade in to the water here vs diving in.
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Yeah... but if you buy used, you can literally sell it for at least as much as you bought it for. You are out the taxes, shipping, and whatever cut Reverb takes. That's not bad for 6 months of getting to play a nice guitar. If you decide to stick with it... you have a nice guitar.

Nothing discourages me more from playing guitar than having a crappy instrument that won't intonate, feels difficult to play, has frets poking out, and sounds bad.

This has just always been my opinion, as stated many times on this thread. However, I would never buy a new guitar as a beginner or picking it up again to see if you want to continue. That is definitely a waste of money, imo.
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K Bo said:

maroon barchetta said:

K Bo said:

Gracias. Will check out the Sire guitars while I wait to hear back from FB seller.


I know Anderton's sells equipment so they aren't going to bash them in a product review video, but Pete really seems to like these Sires and is amazed by the price.
Sounds like I'm picking up the MIM strat for $400 tomorrow. I'll still check out the Sire guitars, though.


Sweet! Congrats. Make sure to share with the class after you pick it up.
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

K Bo said:

maroon barchetta said:

K Bo said:

Gracias. Will check out the Sire guitars while I wait to hear back from FB seller.


I know Anderton's sells equipment so they aren't going to bash them in a product review video, but Pete really seems to like these Sires and is amazed by the price.
Sounds like I'm picking up the MIM strat for $400 tomorrow. I'll still check out the Sire guitars, though.


Sweet! Congrats. Make sure to share with the class after you pick it up.
Of course!
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NGD! 2013 MIM Strat. This thing is in great condition, aside from the missing switch tip.




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Hell yeah! Congrats!

What are you thinking for amp?
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I'm not positive, yet, but it seems I can't go wrong with a Boss Katana 50 mkii. Still doing some research.
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Gratz! I love a maple fretboard, though I don't have one on any of my guitars. When I finally decide to bite the bullet on my CS Tele in Candy green, I will be doing a flamed maple neck/fretboard.

As I understand it, all of the components on the MIM strats are the same as USA except for the pickups?
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Gonna have to open the Les Paul back up. Treble and middle positions have got no signal.
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As far as I understand the main differences between the MIM and MIUSA strats are pickups and the trem system. Otherwise you might be getting a more choice wood with the MIUSA and overall better fit and finish but not sure it's worth 2x.

I need to get a full setup done on this thing. Does Fuller's do that sort of thing, and if so are they recommended? If not, who in Houston would be recommended?
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K Bo said:

As far as I understand the main differences between the MIM and MIUSA strats are pickups and the trem system. Otherwise you might be getting a more choice wood with the MIUSA and overall better fit and finish but not sure it's worth 2x.

I need to get a full setup done on this thing. Does Fuller's do that sort of thing, and if so are they recommended? If not, who in Houston would be recommended?



I haven't used Fuller's but did have a setup done by a luthier/guitar tech at Rockin' Robin on my PRS acoustic. He sanded down my bridge a bit and leveled the frets.

I'm sure Fuller's probably has someone good but I would use the guy at Robin again without pause.
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K Bo said:

As far as I understand the main differences between the MIM and MIUSA strats are pickups and the trem system. Otherwise you might be getting a more choice wood with the MIUSA and overall better fit and finish but not sure it's worth 2x.

I need to get a full setup done on this thing. Does Fuller's do that sort of thing, and if so are they recommended? If not, who in Houston would be recommended?

This is one of my least favorite opinions when it comes to guitars. With anything in this world, the higher the quality and more expensive the whatever, the more diminishing returns you get. The people who care about those differences generally appreciate a thing better than others, and know how important that extra 5-10% really is. That's like before I ever had a really nice steak and couldn't understand why anyone would pay over $60 for one. Texas Roadhouse was just fine at $16. I mean... how much better can a steak really be?

Now, i'm not going to go pay for a $110 porterhouse every night because it's not within my means, and I can make a fairly good steak at home. However, saving a bit longer and buying a nice guitar is well within my means.

If the trem system truly is not of the same quality as the USA models, then between pickups and the bridge system, i'd say a MIM is objectively at least $330-$400 lesser quality than a Fender USA model. And I would consider both of those differences to be substantial; granted, you can always swap those out later.

If you are going to plug it into a Boss katana, turn on the distortion, and never mess around with rolling volume or tone off on your guitar, then I agree it is not worth 2x the cost. However, I could type paragraphs describing all the little things I love about my custom shop tele that no other guitar even in the low $2,000 range has ever been able to match.

As for guitar techs, Yano is the guitar tech at Fuller's. He is usually backed up on work and I know had some family issues a while back, which slowed him down. I think he does pretty good work, but is only in during the week, before 5pm.

I generally do my own setups, and highly recommend you learn to do the same. Unless you have to get into fretwork or cutting a new nut, it's not that hard to learn to adjust your neck relief, set string height, and intonate.

For the difficult things, I highly recommend Neil Sargent at 909 Thompson St, Houston, TX 77007, just off of Washington. He's a true luthier, does great work, and is extremely well priced. He also loves talking shop, when you stop by. Last thing i had him do was install my electronics harness in my ES-335. He charged me $72 to do that work, and I just gave him a clean $80 because I know how much of a pain in the ass it was after spending nearly 8 hours trying and failing to do it myself.
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You'll get no argument from me about the subjective nature value. I'm sure, over time, my opinion of the value of this guitar vs a $2,000 guitar will change drastically. I should have expounded on my previous statement with "but not worth 2x at this point in my journey back in to the guitar world, or likely any time soon, for that matter".

I don't know of the trem system is the same quality I just know the attachment for the trem bar is different. Relatively irrelevant to me, though, as I do not plan to use trem and will likely block it. With regard to pickups, I don't have an amp, yet, so I don't have an opinion on the current pickups. I figure I can easily change them later if I hate them. To me, those two major differences do not add $1k in value, hence my not worth it statement. The other things, 2pc body, wood choice, and fit and finish, are likely things I won't really notice for some time.

As far as amp, the intent is not to plug it in and turn on distortion. I actually prefer cleaner tones and will [hopefully] settle on an amp the does those best. I have not found that amp, yet, and am open to suggestions. I only mention the Katana because every review video or anything I've read seems to point to that one in that price range as a great utility option until I figure out where I want to go.

Thanks for the info on techs. I am typically hands on and would like to learn to do my own setups I was just hoping to get this thing setup to a standard to get me playing, then I would go from there as I want to make adjustments.
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Didn't get the LP Junior.

Well, actually I did. But I took it back and swapped it for a PRS McCarty 594 Singlecut S2 in Faded Blue Smokeburst, which I have been looking to snag for a long time. I'm hoping it arrives tomorrow.

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Sexy
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I have a MIM strat I've been playing for years and it's great. I would love to drop 2 grand on a guitar but I'm not a pro so I can't justify it considering I have a family to support right now. (Someday hopefully)

In the end, if you learn to play it well it will sound good.
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Frok said:

In the end, if you learn to play it well it will sound good.
Ehh...

Jimmy Page playing a cheap guitar through a cheap solid state amp will never sound as good as he did at Madison Square Garden. Great tone is great tone, no matter how proficient you are at guitar. Granted, the way a person plays (their fingers) do contribute to great tone.
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Just ordered a set of Duncan Antiquity P90s for my Special!

I figured I'll go ahead and swap them. If I end up finding a TV yellow special with the neck profile I want, I can always take them out and put them in that guitar.

I'm just a huge fanboy of Duncan Antiquity pickups.
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Traded a couple bottles of bourbon for this beauty. Schecter Guitar Research C-1 Platinum

I have a Jackson DXMG and I put in 81/85 EMGs in it. While I was in Germany it fell off the wall…..don't ask….and the head stock broke in half. I'll eventually fix it.

I've always been a fan of the Schecter look and picked this one up for $350. (Retail 500-750 I believe) it's got the 81/85 set and neck through. I love blues and metal so it will get the job done. Guy said he played it twice. And it definitely appears that way too.
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Schecters are definitely good guitars, for the price. My first mid-range guitar, after my Squire Strat pack, was a Schecter S-1 Elite.

I'm not a fan of active pickups, but to each their own.
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Well now we have to ask. How did it fall off the wall? It's either soccer hooligans or a Claudia Schiffer clone. Make it a good story.

Beautiful guitar. I've really liked the necks on the higher end Schecters I've tried out.
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My PRS S2 594 McCarty Singlecut arrived today. Looks virtually unplayed on the front, with minor surface scratches on the back.

Switch tip was broken, unfortunately. That's a simple fix. The pickups were jacked right up as high as they could go. After adjustment they sound good. Lower is better on passive pickups. The coil splits work great and exhibit minimal noise. Very pleased so far.

Fit and finish are suberb. Action is perfect, fretwork perfect, neck dead-nuts straight. We'll see if it hangs in there after acclimation to the West Texas climate but I feel real good about it.

It came with a generic hardshell case instead of the usual PRS heavy duty bag. I'd prefer the bag but the case is okay.

Not my guitar but looks just like it





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West Texas!

More like TerlinguaMockingbird, amiright????
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maroon barchetta said:

West Texas!

More like TerlinguaMockingbird, amiright????
LOL a band I was in played a gig down there once, for a conference of Texas judges. The voltage coming out of the wall was only 98 volts or so. Our PA kept shutting off.
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K Bo said:

I'm not positive, yet, but it seems I can't go wrong with a Boss Katana 50 mkii. Still doing some research.


Ended up getting a [free] Fender Mustang LT25. After watching tons of videos and reading reviews it struck as me as the perfect amp for where I am in my journey. It has a ton of presets to play with to familiarize myself with sounds and it's small enough that it's relatively unassuming in our office. I don't need anything too loud as it's just me playing for my dog. I played around with it for about an hour and a half last night and really like it for what it is/based on my limited experience.

ETA: free in the sense that I was gifted $200 to Amazon so decided to get this, a cord, and some other goodies.
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K Bo said:

K Bo said:

I'm not positive, yet, but it seems I can't go wrong with a Boss Katana 50 mkii. Still doing some research.


Ended up getting a [free] Fender Mustang LT25. After watching tons of videos and reading reviews it struck as me as the perfect amp for where I am in my journey. It has a ton of presets to play with to familiarize myself with sounds and it's small enough that it's relatively unassuming in our office. I don't need anything too loud as it's just me playing for my dog. I played around with it for about an hour and a half last night and really like it for what it is/based on my limited experience.

ETA: free in the sense that I was gifted $200 to Amazon so decided to get this, a cord, and some other goodies.
This cracked me up. Every time I play (which was up until 30 minutes ago tonight) my dog always bolts into a spare bedroom and basically hides. I don't know if it's the volume that terrifies him or my awful skill level but it's hilarious nonetheless.

Glad you are enjoying it and keep on making noise that you have fun with.


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So, finally modded my Telecaster how I have been thinking about doing so, for a long time.

I had been on the waiting list for this Mastery Tele bridge for about a month or so: https://masterybridge.com/product/m4-1/. They were finally able to fill my order, and I got it several weeks back. I had also bought the Vibramate B5 plate so I could install a Bigsby B5 without having to drill into the guitar.

I didn't realize that the Vibramate bigsby plate for a tele actually has two tabs on either side that slide under the Vibramate tele bridge plate. Unfortunately, the Mastery bridge is something I REALLY wanted to use, so I used my Dremel tool to cut those tabs off the Vibramate plate.

Was finally able to install everything, which actually was very easy to do. The guitar still sounds amazing and feels a little slinkier. The greatest thing is no longer having those damn bridge screws tearing up my palm. This mastery bridge is fantastic, and also allows me to set intonation nearly perfectly on ever string, which a 3-saddle tele bridge just cannot do.

It does seem like the Vibramate plate has a bit of a arch in it, which I don't know if that would disappear if it still had the two tabs that fit under their own plate. I shoved two small felt pads under there to keep the plate from digging into the guitar and it doesn't seem to negatively affect anything. I will think about one day taking it to my guitar tech to have the B5 permanently installed onto the guitar. I haven't decided if that is something I want permanently done or not.

Here is my #1 with my new mods installed! Yes, I know, ugliest guitar ever. Still the greatest playing and sounding guitar I have ever played.

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Very cool!
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We keep getting these because they move fast (listed two years ago).

Suhr brand (listed below as PRS).

What????

https://reverb.com/item/33537437-suhr-modern-roasted-bengal-burst?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=ad&utm_campaign=tof-nba-traffic-feed-q3-2022&utm_content=MI+3.0&utm_term=TOF+link+clicks+-+brand+new+or+new+to+you
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Beautiful. Big Telecaster fan here, that is a great looking guitar.
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So, I didn't get a whole lot of time to play with my new guitar setup yesterday, so finally had a couple hours to play with it today. Figured my fellow guitar nerds would be interested, especially if anyone else is considering a similar mod. I tried not to make this too long...

First off, my overall impressions of both mods is that my Tele has never sounded or played better. I was afraid that changing any little thing would take the magic out of this guitar, but it has only enhanced it. I had a blast playing it for the last couple of hours.

Bridge:
I'm loving this mastery bridge for both the comfort and the intonation. The bridge was the only part of my tele I didn't like, and I know the bridge of a tele is such a huge part to the overall tone, so I was scared of changing that. I do not care for the tele "brass bridge" sound, so I was careful to get the stainless steel Mastery bridge. My Tele had those vintage steel screw bridges, originally. The issue was that I had to back them off so far to get my intonation somewhat manageable, then they would jab me in the palm.

Verdict: This Mastery bridge is never leaving this guitar. I highly suggest anyone with a tele look into these bridges. They are easy to swap out, and you can always find a buyer if you don't end up liking them. Here is a close-up of the bridge. I bought this one to have the pre-fabricated cutouts for a Bigsby.



Bigsby:

I only had one other guitar with a bigsby; my ES-330. I had also owned a non-bigsby ES-330, and the tone difference between the two was huge. My ES-330 with the Bigsby just had so much more character and punch, and I ended up selling my other one (much to my later dismay when I saw the prices sky-rocket). I also love bigsbys because I'm not a huge whammy bar guy for dive-bombs, but I love to add accents at the end of chord runs and such. Without a Bigsby, I just do the neck-wobble trick, but prefer the sound of Bigsby.

However, I didn't want to just decide to drill holes into my #1 guitar, no matter how ugly or beat-up looking it is. This is why I decided to try the Vibramate, after all the research. I am loving the Bigsby, so far, though there are a couple issues it causes:

1. I'm not even going to spend much time on tuning issues. Anyone who knows anything about guitars knows that tremolo setups will never be as stable as fixed bridges. However, a well made and setup guitar should not experience huge issues. That is the case with this one. Will my strings go a little sharp or flat? Sure. But they all do so together, and can be wiggled back into place. I lubricate the nut and don't have too many sharp break angles. This is just something you have to learn to accept with a tremolo or bigsby. It's definitely more stable than a floating tailpiece on a Strat.

2. When I have the pickup selector toggled to the neck, my fingers keep bumping it when using the bigsby arm. I know there are some people who flip the selector plate so the selector switch is to the back of the guitar, but it hasn't proven to be that big of an issue for me, yet.

3. This isn't an issue with the Bigsby, really, but moreso of the Vibramate plate. The vibramate causes the bigsby to sit off the body by a decent amount. This causes the break angle across the bridge to be much less than if the bigsby were to be installed directly onto the body. For most of the strings, that's not an issue. And from my experience with tremolos, I want as little of a break angle as possible so the strings don't get stuck. However, the high E string probably needs a little be more of an angle because I will sometimes get that "sitar" sound due to the string being a little loose across the bridge. This doesn't happen a lot, just every once in a while.

Here are some pictures of the vibramate and break angle. If you read my earlier post, I mentioned I had to cut off the tabs that are supposed to lock the plate down under the vibramate bridge plate. However, I'm using the Master bridge plate, so I have to make due.




Verdict: I'm loving the bigsby. My goal is to determine if it is something I plan on being a permanent part of my Telecaster or not. If I ultimately decide to make it permanent, I will have my guitar tech go ahead and actually install it. That should fix the break angle issue I am having.
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