Such an unbelievably stupid show but also brilliant.

I can't stop watching.

The writers introducing "Holodecks" was the worst thing to happen to the Star Trek universe.

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Such an unbelievably stupid show

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How?

The problem with watching TNG is that you try to start from the beginning which mostly sucks.

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The problem with watching TNG is that you try to start from the beginning which mostly sucks.

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If Riker's clean shaven or you see Dr. Paulaski, it's probably a bad episode.

Start from Season 3 and it is fine, sometimes really good, occasionally brilliant

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The problem with watching TNG is that you try to start from the beginning which mostly sucks.

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If Riker's clean shaven or you see Dr. Paulaski, it's probably a bad episode.

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Hence why the opposite of jumping the shark in TV lingo is growing the beard

Picard shot first

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The problem with watching TNG is that you try to start from the beginning which mostly sucks.

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If Riker's clean shaven or you see Dr. Paulaski, it's probably a bad episode.

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There was an episode from one of those early seasons where Wesley broke a window playing baseball (yes, baseball) on an alien planet. The punishment for breaking the window was death.

It was, without a doubt, the worst episode of Star Trek ever.

It was also weird how Picard in the early seasons had the worst temper ever when it came to Wesley.

Hating on that kid was the most natural thing about picard

We have eliminated scarcity on Earth, therefore human nature changes when we approach scarcity in the galaxy.

ST is more fantasy than SW.

I don't care that it's campy at times, TNG is one of my favorite shows of all time.

Was never the same after I saw the video of Troi farting...

I have mentioned before that the inner light is maybe my favorite episode of any Star Trek series.
But one episode has always stuck with me, "Remember Me". It's the one where Beverly is trapped in the warp bubble and doesn't realize it.
There is a line towards the end of the episode that basically implies that we make our own reality. How cool would it be if all of us were living in a world of our own creation?

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The problem with watching TNG is that you try to start from the beginning which mostly sucks.

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If Riker's clean shaven or you see Dr. Paulaski, it's probably a bad episode.

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There was an episode from one of those early seasons where Wesley broke a window playing baseball (yes, baseball) on an alien planet. The punishment for breaking the window was death.

It was, without a doubt, the worst episode of Star Trek ever.

It was also weird how Picard in the early seasons had the worst temper ever when it came to Wesley.

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Because Wesley deserved it. They should have killed him off violently.

Maybe they did. I don't remember much about that show anymore other than I hated Wesley.

Wesley ran off with the alien that made the engines shoot them across the galaxy in season 1

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Wesley ran off with the alien that made the engines shoot them across the galaxy in season 1

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And then that storyline was just completely forgotten.

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The problem with watching TNG is that you try to start from the beginning which mostly sucks.

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If Riker's clean shaven or you see Dr. Paulaski, it's probably a bad episode.

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There was an episode from one of those early seasons where Wesley broke a window playing baseball (yes, baseball) on an alien planet. The punishment for breaking the window was death.

It was, without a doubt, the worst episode of Star Trek ever.

It was also weird how Picard in the early seasons had the worst temper ever when it came to Wesley.

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This is also the episode where the aliens are running around half naked and are horny 24/7, boning everything in sight. Then everyone meets God. God lets Wesley go after Picard convinces God that sometimes rules, such as the death penalty for minor infractions, can be enforced with nuance instead of rigidness.

Come to think of it, the entire first season is filled with ****ty alien vixens trying to have sex with Riker. The exception to this is episode 3, wherein a virus causes the crew to want to have ****ty sex with each other instead of aliens. Even Data gets in on the action.

Then there's Q. I'm through most of season one, and the most reassuring thing about Q is that he has yet to try to have sex with Riker. But I'm sure it's coming.

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I'm 99% certain yall are describing the same episode, with slightly hazy versions of it.



"Justice" was the 7th episode.

After that, I think Starfleet only went to Risa to use humans as sex slaves.

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You, sir, have just made an enemy for life.

Me too. Loved back in the day when it was new, but so cringey now

Lore was a wasted storyline, so much potential, so poorly used.

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The problem with watching TNG is that you try to start from the beginning which mostly sucks.

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If Riker's clean shaven or you see Dr. Paulaski, it's probably a bad episode.

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There was an episode from one of those early seasons where Wesley broke a window playing baseball (yes, baseball) on an alien planet. The punishment for breaking the window was death.

It was, without a doubt, the worst episode of Star Trek ever.

It was also weird how Picard in the early seasons had the worst temper ever when it came to Wesley.

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it wasn't a window and it wasn't baseball. they were throwing a ball and he crashed through some plants. lame. but not baseball.

weak episode for sure but it really tested the non interference first directive. that was pertinent to a lot of stuff down the road.

Picard was very consistent with being uncomfortable around children and lacked patience.

Far from the worst episode actually. Try the season 7 Dr. Crusher ghost episode on a Scottish recreation village remote settlement on some planet.

I love ST:TNG with a passion. there are stinker episodes but there is so much great stuff.

Anytime Data does another character - Lore or his emotions get messed up or acting like some fictional character on the holodeck, etc. And of course hte Borg stuff. But there are others too.

Did a full S7 rewatch recently. That seasons is amazing. Some truly great stuff (Descent Part II, All Good Things, Pegasus, Gambit, Preemptive Strike the Ro Laren culmination, and Lower Decks maybe the best stand alone single episode) and some train wreck stuff. Seemed like a lot of ideas they had banging around for a while and decided to just do them (ghost episode, ancient artifacts taking over the ship, where the entire crew de-evolved to lizards and stuff, resettling a Native American outpost because.....we haven't wronged them enough) lol.

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But it had that ghost-gasm.



The ghost had been a lover to her grandmother or something who lived on that colony.

it was creep AF

I went back and watched DS9 and was shocked how much better that series was than TNG. DS9 had the soul and a sense of humor where TNG took itself way too seriously.

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I went back and watched DS9 and was shocked how much better that series was than TNG. DS9 had the soul and a sense of humor where TNG took itself way too seriously.

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they addressed this from time to time....

Enterprise was THE flagship of the fleet. Of course it was the most buttoned down and serious.And everyone except guests were starfleet and among their best.

DS9 was a space station with a small crew and a lot of non starfleet personnel. It was gonna be more cavalier in nature. It allowed them the freedom to explore things and be looser.

I never had a problem with that difference.

It's like comparing the crew of a US flagship aircraft carrier and the crew of a crab fishing boat in Alaska.

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This is also the episode where the aliens are running around half naked and are horny 24/7, boning everything in sight. Then everyone meets God. God lets Wesley go after Picard convinces God that sometimes rules, such as the death penalty for minor infractions, can be enforced with nuance instead of rigidness.

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I'm 99% certain yall are describing the same episode, with slightly hazy versions of it.



"Justice" was the 7th episode.

After that, I think Starfleet only went to Risa to use humans as sex slaves.

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Correct. Wesley was chasing a ball, leapt over the white fence that God set up and crashed through a greenhouse, damaging a plant within the punishment zone. He was sentenced to death immediately by the ambiguously gay duo. This was all happening while the rest of the landing crew was getting their freak on.

She's not wearing a bra and shirtless dude is definitely checking out Wesley's package.

Again, incredibly dumb show. But again, also fascinating and sometimes completely brilliant. There's a lot of good subtle and not-so-subtle commentary on the human condition.

Do you remember the episode "skin of evil"?

The one where Tasha Yar dies?

I watched every episode with my dad growing up and Riker getting swallowed by that black evil goo gave me nightmares for months!

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Do you remember the episode "skin of evil"?

The one where Tasha Yar dies?

I watched every episode with my dad growing up and Riker getting swallowed by that black evil goo gave me nightmares for months!

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Ha yeah... it was both creepy and cheesy.

I was 21 so no nightmares for me.

Wasn't that the same species that made an appearance in Discovery past season?

The same species who had a predatory relationship with Saru's species?

Those things suck.

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Wasn't that the same species that made an appearance in Discovery past season?

The same species who had a predatory relationship with Saru's species?

Those things suck.

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No different species. tha ba'ul although they were similar. Show producers said they were unrelated.

Worst episode of the series, in my book. Tasha's pre-recorded farewell to each main character was ludicrous.