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I might even like it more than Gladiator.....ok, not "might", I do.

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Granted, I've never seen the director's cut, but this is insanity.

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I know, I'm certainly in the minority. The directors cut of KoH is just that damn good to me. Don't get it twisted, Gladiator is greatness though.

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I'm not willing to call it better than Gladiator, but the directors cut of KoH is an entirely different film and massive improvement over the original.

And on that topic, the directors cut of Gladiator is also an improvement. It clears up some character motivations and adds in details that make the senate subplot make much more sense in terms of the overall story.

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How does one see these directer cuts nowadays?

Maybe it's because I'm young, but I feel like Nolan should be running away with this.

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Maybe it's because I'm young, but I feel like Nolan should be running away with this.

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Your youth isn't keeping you from seeing some of Scott's earlier works like Alien, Blade Runner, or some that are not included in this tourney, like The Duellists or Black Rain.

My own vote went narrowly to Nolan, who I have yet to see a bad movie from. If I was to put a list of what I consider the best science fiction movies ever made, both these directors would contribute to them with Alien, Blade Runner, Interstellar, and Blade Runner 2049 (Scott produced). The Dark Knight trilogy, along with The Prestige, Memento, Dunkirk, and Inception give Nolan an edge.

As opposed to Scott, who has made some clunkers - American Gangster, for instance. I really enjoyed Prometheus, and am likely one of maybe a dozen people on planet Earth that enjoyed Alien Covenant (liked it better than, say, Alien Resurrection); I really like the character of David, introduced in Prometheus, and his introduction in the opening scene of Alien Covenant with his creator, Weyland, was probably the best sequence in the movie.

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And in a shock to myself, I took The Prestige over Blade Runner. I recently rewatched Blade Runner and actually didn't enjoy it as much as I remembered. Still a groundbreaking visual fest that I much respect though. Have The Prestige in my queue for wife to watch since she's never seen it.

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The Prestige is my favorite Nolan film, it's sneaky incredible. Blade Runner is great but The Prestige easily wins that matchup for me. Not enough people have seen it, criminally underrated.

I've seen Alien and Blade Runner, which are both great movies. Gladiator is phenomenal, as well. I also liked The Martian, Alien Covenant and Prometheus for what they were. I'm not saying I don't know anything about Scott's filmography, though I could stand to see a few more from him. But he's got his share of clunkers, too. For example, I can't imagine Nolan ever putting out anything as bad as Exodus: Gods and Kings.

Nolan is pretty much the picture of consistency and quality, IMO. I've loved most everything he's done, and I'd put The Dark Knight, Inception and The Prestige up against any of Scott's films. His list is much deeper and has higher peaks, imo.

Also, I'll give most of the credit for 2049 to Denis Villeneuve. That guy can do no wrong, and that's probably my favorite movie. I'll be interested to see how he stacks up against these guys in 10-15 years.

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Scott won 5-3 for me. And I would argue one of his best wasn't included: Kingdom if Heaven (at least the directors cut). Such an epic film. Too many people wanted it to be Gladiator 2.0, and it's a completely different and more nuanced, film. I might even like it more than Gladiator.....ok, not "might", I do.

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I completely agree about Kingdom of Heaven. Such an underrated movie and one I enjoy turning on on a rainy day.

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I always really enjoy the scene where he is learning to fight with the sword.

Dunkirk vs. Black Hawk looks like rigged seeding, but I like it.

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I might even like it more than Gladiator.....ok, not "might", I do.

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Granted, I've never seen the director's cut, but this is insanity.

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I know, I'm certainly in the minority. The directors cut of KoH is just that damn good to me. Don't get it twisted, Gladiator is greatness though.

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I'm not willing to call it better than Gladiator, but the directors cut of KoH is an entirely different film and massive improvement over the original.

And on that topic, the directors cut of Gladiator is also an improvement. It clears up some character motivations and adds in details that make the senate subplot make much more sense in terms of the overall story.

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Most should be available for rent on digital (iTunes, Google Play, Amazon, etc.).

A great Round 1 with a lot of votes and some VERY close contests. Definitely the best round yet.

Round 1 Results: (Sorted by margin of victory)

1. The Dark Knight (97.4%) vs 8. Prometheus (2.6%)
2. Inception (86%) vs 7. American Gangster (14%)
1. Gladiator (85.2%) vs 8. The Dark Knight Rises (14.8%)
4. Interstellar (80%) vs 5. Thelma & Louise (20%)
2. Alien (65.2%) vs 7. Batman Begins (34.8%)
6. Black Hawk Down (55%) vs 3. Dunkirk (45%)
6. The Prestige (54.1%) vs 3. Blade Runner (45.9%)
5. Memento (52.3%) vs 4. The Martian (47.7%)

I had a feeling both 3 vs 6 matchups would be close, but I didn't expect those results. I enjoyed The Prestige, but knocking out Blade Runner this early is unexpected.

Similarly, I thought Dunkirk might edge out Black Hawk Down, but that one is more understandable. Black Hawk Down is greatness. I remember going to the theater with my friend in junior high and we both loved it, and then getting my dad to watch it, who also loved it.

Current standings: Nolan 5, Scott 3

(FYI, Memento/Martian flipped late last night to give Nolan the edge.)

With Memento barely making it through, it gets the honor of going up against our #1 overall seed, TDK.

Round 2:
1. The Dark Knight vs 4. Memento
2. Inception vs 3. Black Hawk Down
3. Interstellar vs 2. Alien
4. The Prestige vs 1. Gladiator

Vote now!

Memento/Martian is interesting, I feel like Memento is great the first time but loses something on subsequent viewings. I voted Martian but they're both really good.

That Blade Runner loss is tough though.

Almost didn't vote in the second round in protest of Blade Runner getting eliminated. Travesty!

I feel like The Martian was a really enjoyable watch. Almost "breezy", in a refreshing way.

Memento is obviously complex and you have to be in the right frame of mind to watch.

Thus I find The Martian to be more rewatchable, although I honestly haven't rewatched either one very much.

I'm already prepared for The Prestige to lose to Gladiator here, but this should matchup be in the finals, not the quarters. Awesome movies.

Holy cow, I just voted 3-1 Scott. Although if the Prestige had been up against anything but Gladiator I would hav voted for it in a heart beat.

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Holy cow, I just voted 3-1 Scott. Although if the Prestige had been up against anything but Gladiator I would hav voted for it in a heart beat.

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I think I went 3-1 Nolan here

I went Nolan on everything. Movies are great.

I went 2-2

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I went 2-2

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I went 2-2

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well one was a given Nolan/Nolan.

So really you went 2-1-1 for Scott-Nolan-default

#metoo

3 of the 4 were easy choices. Inception vs Black Hawk Down was tough, but I went Inception.

I know Interstellar will likely lose to Alien, but I remain hopeful.

This is a tough one for me. Both are so good...

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Almost didn't vote in the second round in protest of Blade Runner getting eliminated. Travesty!

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It was a tough match up. IMHO, Blade Runner should have been the #1 seed, it's better than Alien and Gladiator.

Man, I love The Prestige and Gladiator...that was a very tough one for me.

Currently listening to Hans Zimmer's Gladiator score on Spotify. It never gets old.

(Sidenote: Crouching Tiger beating it for Best Score is a travesty.)

(Sidenote 2: You could almost do a tournament just for the scores of these movies.)

We have a 50/50 matchup currently. Any guesses?

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I know Interstellar will likely lost to Alien, but I remain hopeful.

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As it should. /confirmed Alien nut

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We have a 50/50 matchup currently. Any guesses?

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Matchups 2 and 3 seem like the obvious ones.

Interstellar

All Nolan except for Gladiator.

Sure, but which one?

I will say that the lead is going back and forth. Definitely going the distance.

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Sure, but which one?

I will say that the lead is going back and forth. Definitely going the distance.

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Interstellar vs Alien

Nolan clean sweep.