***** American Sitcom Showdown *****

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Round 1 is open!
Vote Here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1h1J8Db-_xfYwS0gE1TmPIQOCaOhIyoVWuVgD7CkWJqo/edit

Rules were only American shows, 30 min blocks, with a sitcom feel (sorry, no Batman: The Animated Series).

Divisions are:
Animated
Classic Television (defined as pre-1990s because you have to put it somewhere)
90s
21st Century

Shows that span multiple divisions are assigned to the division where they are most identifiable (i.e., Seinfeld is in the 90s bracket).

I picked the shows, and seeding was determined by IMDb rating, with me breaking the ties based on personal preference. The exception to that rule is the Animated bracket for the reason that I felt it had the most opportunity for recency bias and/or shenanigans. I seeded that one myself.

Plan is to re-seed the tournament at 16.

In case you are interested, I picked 19 shows per region and relied on IMDb to get to the field of 64. Consequently, the "bubble teams" for each region are as follows:

Animated:
The Critic
The Flintstones
The Jetsons

Classic:
Good Times
Gilligan's Island
The Brady Bunch

90s:
Mad About You
Family Matters
Ellen

21st:
Malcolm in the Middle
Reno 911
Black-Ish
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16 votes in, and a couple of "upsets" brewing.

In the Animation bracket:
(13) Beavis and Butt-Head leading (4) Rick and Morty
(12) Scooby Doo leading (5) Bojack Horseman

In the Classics bracket, it's no surprise (16) The Cosby Show is leading (1) The Honeymooners. I suspect The Cosby Show was punished by the IMDb fans to end up with that seeding anyway. (3) MASH is also on upset watch, courtesy of (14) Happy Days.

Over on 90s Television, the (5) Fresh Prince of Bel-Air is in a surprising dogfight with (12) Everybody Loves Raymond.

And in the modern bracket, fan favorite (6) Community has some ground to make up against the perennial underdog (11) Scrubs. Meanwhile, (7) Silicon Valley is in a close match with (10) Modern Family.

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The Veep vs. Parks and Rec matchup seemed a little off this early in the bracket
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nai06 said:

The Veep vs. Parks and Rec matchup seemed a little off this early in the bracket

Yeah, I was a little surprised by IMDb's rating for some of these shows. For example, the ratings for the 21st Century bracket look like this:

The Office 8.9
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 8.8
Arrested Development 8.7
Curb Your Enthusiasm 8.7
Parks and Recreation 8.6
Community 8.5
Silicon Valley 8.5
Flight of the Conchords 8.5
Modern Family 8.4
Brooklyn 99 8.4
Scrubs 8.3
Veep 8.3
How I Met Your Mother 8.3
30 Rock 8.2
Eastbound and Down 8.2
Workaholics 8.1
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Malcolm in the Middle 8
Reno 911 7.9
Black-ish 7.1

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Arrested development vs parks and rec wasn't first round material either.
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Might end up reseeding next round. The thought initially was to pick the best from each division and then have those go head to head for an all-around champ. But some of these matchups, especially in the next round within the millennial division, should be later matchups.
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Seinfeld and Friends are set up to advance.

Andy Griffith v Cheers & Family Guy v Sponge Bob.....come on man?!?!
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Malcolm in the Middle is so much better than so many of those shows.
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Garbage in, garbage out.
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Scrubs vs. Community was a tough match-up for me.
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hph6203 said:

Malcolm in the Middle is so much better than so many of those shows.

You serious Clark?
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nai06 said:

hph6203 said:

Malcolm in the Middle is so much better than so many of those shows.

You serious Clark?

Modern Family 8.4
Brooklyn 99 8.4
Scrubs 8.3
How I Met Your Mother 8.3
Eastbound and Down 8.2
Workaholics 8.1

Those in its own bracket alone. Took out Community, because I've never watched more than an episode, but I wasn't impressed.
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Would love to have seen Mike Tyson Mysteries in the animated section. It's an 8.1 and a hilarious show but I get it's not that well known.

Thanks for putting these together
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Round 2 is now open. Going to be reseeding the Sweet 16 once we have the 4 winners from each category.

Round 1 Results:

Animation Bracket:
The Simpsons def Ren & Stimpy: 90 - 10
Futurama def The Venture Bros.: 93.3 - 6.7
South Park def Bob's Burgers: 87.8 - 12.2
(UPSET) Beavis and Butt-Head def Rick and Morty: 62.2 37.8
(UPSET) Scooby Doo def Bojack Horseman: 81.1 18.9
King of the Hill def Daria: 95.6 4.4
Archer def Gravity Falls: 86.7 13.3
Family Guy def Sponge Bob: 66.7 33.3

Classic TV:
(UPSET) The Cosby Show def The Honeymooners: 73.3 26.7
I Love Lucy def The Jeffersons: 62.2 37.8
MASH def Happy Days: 52.2 47.8
All In The Family def Taxi: 75.6 24.4
The Wonder Years def Newhart: 67.8 32.2
(UPSET) Cheers def The Andy Griffith Show: 75.6 24.4
(UPSET) Sanford and Son def The Mary Tyler Moore Show 55.6 44.4
(UPSET) The Golden Girls def Barney Miller 64.4 35.6

90s:
Seinfeld def Full House: 87.8 12.2
Friends def Murphy Brown: 88.9 11.1
Frasier def Rosanne: 77.8 22.2
Marriedwith Children def Saved By The Bell: 56.7 43.3
Fresh Prince def Everybody Loves Raymond: 62.2 37.8
NewsRadio def Wings: 53.3 46.7
3rd Rock From The Sun def Will and Grace: 82.2 17.8
(UPSET) Home Improvement def Martin: 92.2 7.8

21st Century
The Office def Workaholics: 93.3 6.7
It's Always Sunny def Eastbound and Down: 75.6 24.4
Arrested Development def 30 Rock: 71.1 28.9
Curb Your Enthusiasm def How I Met Your Mother: 60 40
Parks and Rec def Veep: 88.9 11.1
Community def Scrubs: 54.4 45.6
Silicon Valley def Modern Family: 52.2 47.8
(UPSET) Brooklyn Nine Nine def Flight Of The Conchords: 74.4 25.6
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Wish I had caught the early round but nice setup.
91G 'EM 94GGIES!
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Sad to have to vote against Brooklyn 99, but it rant into the Office... 90s bracket were probably the easiest votes on this one.

One of the tougher ones to vote on was South Park vs. King of the Hill. Really depends on my mood.
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oof, I feel like I'm going 0-4 on the 21st Century bracket this time.
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Archer and IASIP
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LHIOB
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News Radio vs Wings. Thats a Sophies Choice if Ive ever seen one
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Bump
Rudyjax
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When does rd 3 open?
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Whoops. Wrote this up the other night and forgot to post it.

Round 2 is closed, and the field is set.

(1) The Simpsons def (8) Family Guy, 81% to 19%
(2) Futurama def (7) Archer, 53% to 47%
(3) South Park def (6) King of the Hill, 60% to 40%
(12) Scooby Doo def (13) Beavis and Butt-Head, 58% to 42%

(9) The Golden Girls lose to (16) The Cosby Show, 15% to 85%
(4) All In The Family loses to (5) The Wonder Years, 35% to 65%
(3) MASH loses to (11) Cheers, 40% to 60%
(2) I Love Lucy def (10) Sanford and Son, 60% to 40%

(1) Seinfeld def (9) Home Improvement, 71% to 29%
(4) Married...with Children loses to (5) Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, 47% to 53%
(3) Frasier def (6) NewsRadio, 66% to 34%
(2) Friends def (7) 3rd Rock From The Sun, 87% to 13%

(1) The Office def (9) Brooklyn Nine Nine, 87% to 13%
(4) Curb Your Enthusiasm loses to (5) Parks and Recreation, 21% to 79%
(3) Arrested Development def (6) Community, 55% to 45%
(2) It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia def (7) Silicon Valley, 55% to 45%

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The top show from each genre remaining from last round were re-seeded as the top 4, and then the remaining teams have been re-seeded using a weighted formula from (1) IMDb, (2) Rotten Tomatoes Critic Score, and (3) Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score. Amazingly, this half-assed attempt at a computer ranking is actually pretty balanced.

Sweet 16 Voting is Open

(1) The Office


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(16) The Cosby Show


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(8) Frasier


vs.

(9) Futurama


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(4) I Love Lucy


vs.

(13)


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(5) Parks and Recreation


vs.

(12) South Park


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(2) The Simpsons


vs.

(15) Scooby Doo


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(7) Friends


vs.

(10) The Wonder Years


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(3) Seinfeld


vs.

(14) Cheers


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(6) It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia


vs.

(11) Arrested Development
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can we do a bracket of reasons why this bracket stopped updating?
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MuckRaker96 said:

can we do a bracket of reasons why this bracket stopped updating?

Buck Compton
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RIP Archer, Silicon Valley, and Brooklyn 99.
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Quote:

(4) Married...with Children loses to (5) Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, 47% to 53%
what's wrong with you people?!?!?
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It's halftime in our Sweet 16 games, and some teams are getting taken to the woodshed. Futurama has a lot to do if they want to come back on Frasier. Critic's Darling IASIP is struggling against Cult Favorite Arrested Development.

The surprise of the tournament has to be feel-good family favorite Parks and Rec in an absolute dog fight with the irreverent kids of South Park.
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Link again for voting before the round ends this weekend.

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damn son, Arrested Development vs Its Always Sunny?? F! Why you gotta do me like that?

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Round complete. Sad to see two of my personal favorites go in Futurama and IASIP. Glad to see South Park put up a fight against Parks and Rec, even though I think I enjoy Parks and Rec more.

(1) The Office def. (16) The Cosby Show, 65-35
(8) Frasier def. (9) Futurama, 65-35

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(4) I Love Lucy def. (13) Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, 65-35
(5) Parks and Rec survives against South Park, 54-46

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(2) The Simpsons def. (15) Scooby-Doo, 87-13
(7) Friends def. (10) The Wonder Years, 63-37

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(3) Seinfeld def. (14) Cheers, 61-39
(11) Arrested Development upsets (6) It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, 67-33

vs.

Next round is now open for voting
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Such tough choices, but I think at this point I dont think there have been any mistakes in what is left. The Elite 8 are very possibly the 8 of the 10 best shows in this format ever created.
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Cheers as a #14 seed continues to hurt my brain. Was the OP born in 2005?
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MuckRaker96 said:

Cheers as a #14 seed continues to hurt my brain. Was the OP born in 2005?


Take it up with their 7.8 on IMDb.
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Missed this one.
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