Got a couple of tight matches, so going to let this round run through the end of the day.

The Simpsons vs Friends

how long is this round going?

fido00 said:

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The Simpsons vs Friends

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This one is a no brainer. Simpsons all the way. Friends is a garbage soap opera

Results are in.

(1) The Office def (8) Frasier 86-14
(4) I Love Lucy def (5) Parks and Rec, 57-43
(2) The Simpsons def (7) Friends, 66-34
(3) Seinfeld def (11) Arrested Development, 92-8

A little surprised I Love Lucy took out Parks and Rec, but it's the right call.

Your Final Four match-ups

(1) The Office - Spanning 9 seasons totaling 201 episodes, The Office is the iconic sitcom of what many claim as the "New Golden Age of Television" in America.

It's path to the Final Four: Workaholics>Brooklyn Nine Nine>The Cosby Show>Frasier



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(4) I Love Lucy - Airing from 1951-1957, totaling 181 episodes, I Love Lucy gave post-WW2 America a strong female lead, an interracial marriage, and is considered by many to be the most influential sitcom of the Original Golden Age of Television, and possibly of all time.

It's path to the Final Four: The Jeffersons>Sanford and Son>The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air>Parks and Rec



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(2) The Simpsons - 30 years, 684 episodes, 34 emmys, and Peabody award later, The Simpsons and creator Matt Groening gave American audiences something entirely unique: a cartoon series geared towards adults, and the iconic animated series of all time.

It's path to the Final Four: Ren & Stimpy>Family Guy>Scooby Doo>Friends



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(3) Seinfeld - 9 seasons and 180 episodes...about nothing. We'd had irreverent sitcoms before, but Seinfeld took the idea of making a group of unlikable, fundamentally selfish individuals your lovable protagonists, and in doing so, gave us a uniquely postmodern and truly American sitcom. Arguably the iconic American sitcom expression.

It's path to the Final Four: Full House>Home Improvement>Cheers>Arrested Development



Cast Your Final Four Votes Here

It's also worth noting that each team remaining won it's bracket before the reseed.

• Seinfeld won the 90s bracket
• The Office won the millennial bracket
• I Love Lucy won the classic TV bracket
• The Simpsons won the animated bracket

Simpson's vs Seinfeld is a tough call!

I love Lucy best Parks and Rec?? Parks and Rev deserved the chance to lose to the office before the inevitable Office vs. Seinfeld championship showdown.

So was the Cosby Show the one that was closest in vote vs the Office? I wish we could have seen what it did vs others.

Aggie1205 said:

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So was the Cosby Show the one that was closest in vote vs the Office? I wish we could have seen what it did vs others.

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Yeah, it's been in the 80s or higher against everyone else. It beat the Cosby Show 65-35 (or something close to that).

Ol Jock 99 said:

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Simpson's vs Seinfeld is a tough call!

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It'll be the Office/Seinfeld.

Ol Jock 99 said:

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Simpson's vs Seinfeld is a tough call!

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Extremely tough call. I think The Simpsons might suffer just because there will be people who are turned off by it being an animated series, and that's fair. It also suffers a bit because it has been a while since it was A+ programming. Seinfeld suffered that in it's last year as well, but I think because it hasn't been on TV in 20+ years, it's bad episodes are largely forgiven.

Still, if you look at peak vs. peak for both shows, it's a tough match up. The Simpsons was solid gold from 1990-1998, which is basically when Seinfeld was on.

I agree with all of this. Also, both are extremely re-watchable. I do find myself watching Seinfeld more that the Simpsons in reruns though. On the flip side my 14 year old son loves the Simpsons and a show that can cross age groups and generations is extremely rare.

Ol Jock 99 said:

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Simpson's vs Seinfeld is a tough call!

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No it's not. Simpsons seasons 1-7 is the best comedy series in American history.

I loved Cheers in its original airing. One of my favorites. I loved Frasier in its original airing. Also one of my favorites.

IMHO Frasier ended up being the show that holds up better over time. I just don't get as many out loud funny moments from Cheers as I do from Frasier in my rewatches.

Final call for votes before I shut this down. Relatively close match ups.

Vote Here

Final Four is over, and no real surprises here.

(1) The Office def (4) I Love Lucy, 67-33. The Office rushed out to an early lead and never really let up.

(3) Seinfeld def (2) The Simpsons, 62-38. This one was neck and neck through the half way point with Seinfeld holding a slight lead. The Simpsons faded down the stretch, and Seinfeld cruised to a pretty decisive win.

FINAL ROUND:

(1) The Office.


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(3) Seinfeld
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VOTE HERE

Superblood Wolfmoon said:

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Ol Jock 99 said:

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Simpson's vs Seinfeld is a tough call!

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It'll be the Office/Seinfeld.

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Who fields the best starting 5?

Jerry vs. Michael Scott - advantage Office
George vs. Dwight - advantage Seinfeld
Kramer vs. Jim - advantage Seinfeld
Elaine vs. Pam - advantage Seinfeld
Newman vs. Toby - push

Seinfeld wins the series in 5 games.

I got nothing to do. I'll rig this *****.

Actually, I refuse to vote since there is no winner and only a loser.

Unsurprisingly, this one is neck and neck. Need more votes though.

59 total votes, and it's presently 30 votes to 29.

With 57 of the 101 votes cast, the winner of the American Sitcom Showdown is










(1) The Office def (3) Seinfeld, 56.4-43.6

Thoughts?

Early Office was brilliant. Later Office wasn't.
Seinfeld was great throughout.

No issue with it, even though I voted differently.

I had Seinfeld.
I know it's heresy in this board, but never thought Michael Scott was funny. I don't like characters who lack self awareness and Continually do incredibly dumb things (To the point of being a caricature In his case) and never face any sort of real consequences for their stupidity. I cringed more than laughed any time he was on screen.
Pam and Jim are maybe my favorite sitcom couple ever though. And really liked most of the other characters.

I voted based on which one moved me more often.

I think Seinfeld was funnier.

I'll be that guy:

I just never got the popularity of The Office. It was funny at times but the shtick wore thin pretty quickly for me. Parks & Rec only got better as it went, so I much prefer that.

And the UK Office was absolutely brilliant and I'd take it over the American version all day.

Now you're the guy who doesn't get The Office or Shawshank. I'm calling INS.

I said Shawshank was great. Sorry it's not my all-time favorite movie.