have you ever listened to classic rock radio?

62strat said:

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I thought i was living in the twighlight zone when I didn't see my post in this thread.. then realized it was posted on Gboard also.

Here is an excel spreadsheet of this to easily sort/filter.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/7549ovhzxcpzebk/1000songs.xlsx

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Hey I was gonna do that - thanks!!!!

I probably will take it now and add album title, and release year of album and or single

Would be interesting to sort by release year for example and see where it peaks and dies off.

PS - you might want to take your first column and make it real numbers though - it loses it's value when you sort by another column. you can do that easily - select the cells in column A from 1000 to 1, then ctrl-C (or cmmand-C on Mac) and then right click and do Paste Special and select Values. This will replace all those formulas with the values 1000-1.

PPS - all 4 Bachman Turner Overdrive entries got messed up. It cut off the band name as Bahcman and "urner Overdrive" is in the song title portion.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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62strat said:

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I thought i was living in the twighlight zone when I didn't see my post in this thread.. then realized it was posted on Gboard also.

Here is an excel spreadsheet of this to easily sort/filter.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/7549ovhzxcpzebk/1000songs.xlsx

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Hey I was gonna do that - thanks!!!!

I probably will take it now and add album title, and release year of album and or single

Would be interesting to sort by release year for example and see where it peaks and dies off.

PS - you might want to take your first column and make it real numbers though - it loses it's value when you sort by another column. you can do that easily - select the cells in column A from 1000 to 1, then ctrl-C (or cmmand-C on Mac) and then right click and do Paste Special and select Values. This will replace all those formulas with the values 1000-1.

PPS - all 4 Bachman Turner Overdrive entries got messed up. It cut off the band name as Bahcman and "urner Overdrive" is in the song title portion.

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whoops.. thought I had already done hard coded the #. Done now.

Good catch on BTO. I used formulas to split into artist and song, and it involved finding the '-'.. and apparently BTO is the only artist to have a hypen!
That's fixed now too.

Diggity said:

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have you ever listened to classic rock radio?

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No.. are maiden and motorhead not played? If not, why the hell not? What exactly disqualifies them from the genre?

The program directors I guess?

TurkeyBaconLeg said:

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As originally broadcast on SiriusXM 30 From March 1st-March 15th, 2019


730 Billy Joel - It's Still Rock And Roll To Me

703 Billy Joel - It's Still Rock and Roll To Me

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Just noticed this duplicate - cuz I sorted on band/artist.

Diggity said:

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The program directors I guess?

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So every program director in the US just happens to not be a fan of one of the most influential hard rock bands and one of the best selling rock bands of all time, both from the classic rock period?

I don't get it... am I missing something?

you appear to be

62strat said:

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Diggity said:

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The program directors I guess?

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So every program director in the US just happens to not be a fan of one of the most influential hard rock bands and one of the best selling rock bands of all time, both from the classic rock period?

I don't get it... am I missing something?

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imho.....

Classic rock is not typically speed metal or thrash metal for example.

Sabbath and JP would be considered heavy metal yes, but not thrash or speed metal. Similarly Scorpions are included in classic rock.

Motorhead is definitely speed metal, Iron Maiden is a little harder to define but just a little less radio friendly and less melodic some consider them the originators or influence anyway of that hard rock+prog+brit influence that led to thrash metal. Likewise you don't see the big thrash bands Megadeath, Anthrax, Metallica or Slayer on there.

All are under the umbrella of hard rock/heavy metal but classic rock is about memorable hooks and chorus (or legendary blues based guitar solos, etc.) You can have those with heavy metal, but not so much with the harder edge like Motorhead and IM and those others.

You'll find those played on true hard rock stations - Album Oriented Rock.

Diggity said:

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you appear to be

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so if those two bands aren't classic rock what are they?

Classic hard Rock

62strat said:

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Diggity said:

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you appear to be

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so if those two bands aren't classic rock what are they?

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Rock for people that identify with Beavis and Butthead.

Like I said, take it up with the PD's for classic rock radio. I don't make these calls.

62strat said:

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So how is Sabbath and Priest considered classic rock but not iron maiden and motorhead?

Maiden and motorhead belong on this list.

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Iron Maiden and Motorhead are not classic rock, simple as that

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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62strat said:

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Diggity said:

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The program directors I guess?

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So every program director in the US just happens to not be a fan of one of the most influential hard rock bands and one of the best selling rock bands of all time, both from the classic rock period?

I don't get it... am I missing something?

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imho.....

Classic rock is not typically speed metal or thrash metal for example.

Sabbath and JP would be considered heavy metal yes, but not thrash or speed metal. Similarly Scorpions are included in classic rock.

Motorhead is definitely speed metal, Iron Maiden is a little harder to define but just a little less radio friendly and less melodic some consider them the originators or influence anyway of that hard rock+prog+brit influence that led to thrash metal. Likewise you don't see the big thrash bands Megadeath, Anthrax, Metallica or Slayer on there.

All are under the umbrella of hard rock/heavy metal but classic rock is about memorable hooks and chorus (or legendary blues based guitar solos, etc.) You can have those with heavy metal, but not so much with the harder edge like Motorhead and IM and those others.

You'll find those played on true hard rock stations - Album Oriented Rock.

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I guess. Doesn't add up to me. Memorable hooks and choruses... like the trooper, run to the hills and number of the beast?

Motrhead.. ok yeh, it's a precursor to thrash, which clearly does not belong. But mainden, I don't know man. They are no different sonically than half of these bands. Guitar solos, verse chorus verse strictures, arena rock sound, the right time period..

I mean rush can be classic rock with all their proggy-ness? Or Paul Simon with his acoustic folk-ness? Or Bowie with his weird avant-gardeness? But no IM.

What a farce. Sounds like the definition of classic rock is about as clear as mud.

Every Zep song should be in the top 1000. Period.

2 glaring omissions (for me) . . . The Unforgettable Fire by U2 and Don't Change by INXS.

Not a bad list overall, but Beatles Here Comes the Sun at #19? I don't think that's even a top 19 Beatles song.

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Not a bad list overall, but Beatles Here Comes the Sun at #19? I don't think that's even a top 19 Beatles song.

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I'd say you are in the minority there. I'm sure it's easily in the top 20 Beatles songs for most people.

Def. a top 20 beatles song. Top 3 George beatle song with my guitar and something.

It's just outside the top 10 Beatles song for me - at 11 - with 2 others in the top 10, and Taxman in there somewhere.

Personally I'd rank them this way - bold were not even on their list.

To be fair - this is just a ranking of Beatles songs, they aren't all "classic rock" for sure but what is.

The Ballad Of John And Yoko
Why Don't We Do It In the Road
I've Got a Feeling
I'm Looking Through You
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
Golden Slumbers
Don't Let Me Down
The Long and Winding Road
I Feel Fine
Magical Mystery Tour
Eight Days a Week
Nowhere Man
Taxman
Mother Nature's Son
Dear Prudence
Blackbird
Eleanor Rigby
Hello Goodbye
Strawberry Fields Forever
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Back In The U.S.S.R.
Ticket To Ride
Paperback Writer
Lady Madonna
Got To Get You Into My Life
Norwegian Wood
Day Tripper
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Here Comes The Sun
Come Together
Hey Jude
Something
Drive My Car
Get Back
Penny Lane
Let It Be
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Revolution
A Day In The Life

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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It's just outside the top 10 Beatles song for me - at 11 - with 2 others in the top 10, and Taxman in there somewhere.

Personally I'd rank them this way - bold were not even on their list.

To be fair - this is just a ranking of Beatles songs, they aren't all "classic rock" for sure but what is.

The Ballad Of John And Yoko
Why Don't We Do It In the Road
I've Got a Feeling
I'm Looking Through You
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
Golden Slumbers
Don't Let Me Down
The Long and Winding Road
I Feel Fine
Magical Mystery Tour
Eight Days a Week
Nowhere Man
Taxman
Mother Nature's Son
Dear Prudence
Blackbird
Eleanor Rigby
Hello Goodbye
Strawberry Fields Forever
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Back In The U.S.S.R.
Ticket To Ride
Paperback Writer
Lady Madonna
Got To Get You Into My Life
Norwegian Wood
Day Tripper
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Here Comes The Sun
Come Together
Hey Jude
Something
Drive My Car
Get Back
Penny Lane
Let It Be
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Revolution
A Day In The Life

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Ok, specifically, I'd put Here Comes the Sun between Don't Let Me Down and The Long and Winding Road.

One of the fascinating things about the Beatles is that they recorded for a short time relative to most of the classic rock acts. Of the list above, about 25 songs were recorded in a 3 year time period from 67-69. The sheer number of songs recorded between 62 and 69 is remarkable considering the hit ratio they had. Has to do with talent and timing.

safety guy said:

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One of the fascinating things about the Beatles is that they recorded for a short time relative to most of the classic rock acts. Of the list above, about 25 songs were recorded in a 3 year time period from 67-69. The sheer number of songs recorded between 62 and 69 is remarkable considering the hit ratio they had. Has to do with talent and timing.

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yeah ..something i posted earlier.......for those top 4:

The Beatles recorded 275 songs in their 8 years - incredibly prolific in a short period
The Stones have recorded about 280 songs in 50+ years
The Who recorded 250 songs in 50 years
Led Zeppelin recorded only 108 songs in their 12 years (only 74 were released originally between 1968-1980, plus 34 after Bonhams death)

Consider LZ sitting in 4th close to those bands with less than half the volume of output.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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safety guy said:

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One of the fascinating things about the Beatles is that they recorded for a short time relative to most of the classic rock acts. Of the list above, about 25 songs were recorded in a 3 year time period from 67-69. The sheer number of songs recorded between 62 and 69 is remarkable considering the hit ratio they had. Has to do with talent and timing.

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yeah ..something i posted earlier.......for those top 4:

The Beatles recorded 275 songs in their 8 years - incredibly prolific in a short period
The Stones have recorded about 280 songs in 50+ years
The Who recorded 250 songs in 50 years
Led Zeppelin recorded only 108 songs in their 12 years (only 74 were released originally between 1968-1980, plus 34 after Bonhams death)

Consider LZ sitting in 4th close to those bands with less than half the volume of output.

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Yet Zep never had a #1 hit. Beatles had 27, or 1 out of 10 songs, which is amazing.

This is just a random list by some random group of people. The Beatles aren't more all over this list because so much of their work is not 'classic rock'.. really just the last few years are, whereas all of Zeps output is classic rock material. Otherwise, the Beatles would blow even RS out of the water.

Look at it from this perspective - of the Beatles 29 songs on the list, 22 are from 3 years. That's a 'classic rock' hit released every 7 weeks.

Every member of The Beatles is on here separately as well.. another testament to their legacy and dominance.

I wasn't slamming the Beatles - their output and hits speak or themselves really.

Just pointing out how prolific LZ was given their much smaller body of work. Zep never having a #1 hit is pretty irrelevant for a classic rock list anyway (typically more Album Oriented Rock). Rock bands tended to release singles as well but albums were their bread and butter and the rock stations played whatever they wanted from their catalog.

It was more meant to say despite being below the Stones and Who on that list - considering the longevity of those bands they would logically be a but higher. Zeppelin did nearly as much in much less time.

The two real standouts are The Beatles and Zeppelin given their smaller windows.

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It was more meant to say despite being below the Stones and Who on that list - considering the longevity of those bands they would logically be a but higher. Zeppelin did nearly as much in much less time.

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Only because LZ ceased to exist.

It's not like there are recent songs from stones or who on there. Nothing probably from the 90s or later. That's because it's classic rock radio.. they aren't going to play new stuff from 60s/70s bands. In reality, you need to compare RS from 64 to late 70s.. and LZ from 69-80.. that's the comparison.

Case in point, RS Voodoo lounge in 94 was a huge success... #1 all over, yet no songs are on this list. It doesn't fit the classic format at that point.

Petty was probably the last guy to get 'new' stuff on classic rock radio, and they were his 90s hits.. It stops there I'd imagine.

So, had LZ continued (or Beatles).. of course it's impossible to say, but I'd bet they'd put out albums in 80s,90s, maybe 2000s.. but none of those songs would be on classic rock radio (and therefore, not on the list), due to the format, lessening their % of hits from the total body of work.

Also.. I was just curious because I didn't remember the Who continuing on..
I'm only counting 135 album songs. Where are you getting 250 songs from? It's probably some list of bonus tracks, live recordings, US/UK releases, second releases, etc.. Those bands back then had complicated discographies.

They had 11 albums total, a few of them doubles.. so 250 has a lot of fluff and extra stuff in it.

They still existed for a longer period in their relevant years too:

LZ 1968-1980 = 13 years and 8 albums

Stones 1963 - 1989 Steel Wheels was about their last relevant album with lots of airplay = 27 years and 21 albums or even just through 1980 with Start Me Up (3 songs off that album on the list) = 18 years and 18 albums.

The Who 1964 - 1982 with It's Hard their last with big hits (Eminence Front which did make the list) = 19 years and 11 albums

So 50% longer at least for both bands - twice as long really for the Stones.

As for the 250 songs by The Who - I just looked at a list. Yes it likely includes those later outtakes, rarities, etc... same as LZ as I mentioned they only released 74 in their active years - another 34 posthumously including songs on Coda, Box sets, special edition releases of the original albums, etc.

I am having a great time putting this list into a playlist on my iphone.

62strat said:

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It was more meant to say despite being below the Stones and Who on that list - considering the longevity of those bands they would logically be a but higher. Zeppelin did nearly as much in much less time.

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Case in point, RS Voodoo lounge in 94 was a huge success... #1 all over, yet no songs are on this list. It doesn't fit the classic format at that point.

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Not sure that's a case in point at all. Voodoo Lounge was a big deal because they hadn't released an album in a while and members were doing solo stuff. It sold a lot of albums because Stones fans would still buy anything they put out at that point.

There were not any "great" singles on that album. "Out of Tears", while a decent song, is very low on the list of memorable Stones songs.

Funny how I keep thinking of songs that may have missed the list and then come here and search for them.

A couple more omissions:

Neil Young - Hey Hey My My. Great song that gave us the line "it's better to burn out than to fade away".

Humble Pie - 30 Days in a Hole

Georgia Satellites - "Keep Your Hands to Yourself"

Robbie Robertson - something from his self-titled album belongs, probably "American Roulette" or "Showdown at Big Sky"

I *suspected* that Head East - Never Been Any Reason might have been overlooked, but was glad to find it at 821. Also, was glad to see Edgar Winter's "Frankenstein" although that means instrumentals are okay for the list, and now I'm more convinced "Riveria Paradise" by SRV belongs.

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Neil Young - Hey Hey My My. Great song that gave us the line "it's better to burn out than to fade away".

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No, no, no. That was "Rock of Ages" by Def Leppard.

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367 John Mellencamp - I Need A Lover

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Really surprised they put this as his highest rated song.

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799 Genesis - Paperlate

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Shocked this made the list. Great song but you almost never hear it played anymore.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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It's just outside the top 10 Beatles song for me - at 11 - with 2 others in the top 10, and Taxman in there somewhere.

Personally I'd rank them this way - bold were not even on their list.

To be fair - this is just a ranking of Beatles songs, they aren't all "classic rock" for sure but what is.

The Ballad Of John And Yoko
Why Don't We Do It In the Road
I've Got a Feeling
I'm Looking Through You
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
Golden Slumbers
Don't Let Me Down
The Long and Winding Road
I Feel Fine
Magical Mystery Tour
Eight Days a Week
Nowhere Man
Taxman
Mother Nature's Son
Dear Prudence
Blackbird
Eleanor Rigby
Hello Goodbye
Strawberry Fields Forever
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Back In The U.S.S.R.
Ticket To Ride
Paperback Writer
Lady Madonna
Got To Get You Into My Life
Norwegian Wood
Day Tripper
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Here Comes The Sun
Come Together
Hey Jude
Something
Drive My Car
Get Back
Penny Lane
Let It Be
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Revolution
A Day In The Life

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Great list.... But how, HOW, could you leave out She Came in Through the Bathroom Window?

Junkhead said:

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TX AG 88 said:

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Neil Young - Hey Hey My My. Great song that gave us the line "it's better to burn out than to fade away".

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No, no, no. That was "Rock of Ages" by Def Leppard.

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See I thought it was the late great Peter Steele in 99's 'world coming down';

It's better to live, king of beasts, than as a lamb, scared and weak.
It's better to burn, quickly and bright, than slowly and dull, without a fight.