MooreTrucker said:

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OK, I've heard of that second guy and both bands.

Never heard of Noise Floor (Google hasn't either, evidently).

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nevermind that's not the band name....hold on


Benn'y reference is also Tool

Oh, I know. I'd be blaring soundgarden, Metallica, or whatever back in HS and my parents would say "all I hear is yelling!" But I credit them for getting into LZ, queen and all those great bands of the 70s.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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you don't need to ... way too obscure for frontman discussion

Benny - Tool

Macarthur - Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle

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I'm sad. Zombie John called me a tool.

Oh well, so do the women in my house.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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you don't need to ... way too obscure for frontman discussion

Benny - Tool

Macarthur - Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle

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You think Maynard is too obscure for discussion?

If you're talking about bands only, Jaguar basically invented the whole front man persona. He has to be number one,
Individuals, Presley basically invented that. No one has done it better either, he was almost literally a cult of personality.

Greatest floor person.....Floor Jansen

I think the answer comes down to Mercury or Plant

but....

"Eddie Vedder was more interested in his shoes or the ceiling than any crowd."

LOL

That's why I Lol'd at that comment.

Anyone who says that had never seen Pearl Jam live.

Rudyjax said:

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That's why I Lol'd at that comment.

Anyone who says that had never seen Pearl Jam live.

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Fair enough. I stand corrected about Vedder. I've watched a lot of vids of him live and agree that he's good. My point is that 90s grunge was a bit of a downer after all the good times before it, and the singers did not generally seem excited to be there.

MookieBlaylock said:

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Vedder is the best of the grunge front men and it really isn't close

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So this puts him about 1000 on the list of all time front men, then.

Macarthur said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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you don't need to ... way too obscure for frontman discussion

Benny - Tool

Macarthur - Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle

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You think Maynard is too obscure for discussion?

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I like Tool but....yeah. 4 studio albums in like 25 years. Haven't put one out in 13 years. rarely played on mainstream rock stations. Barely tour any more - in the last 8+ years they've played a handful (12ish) of concerts in most years and a few festivals and more Europe dates than anywhere else. Several years they have not played at all.They also aren't on itunes so a whole generation doesn't know anything about them.

Doesn't affect his quality as a frontman I suppose - but too obscure imho for people to know enough about him/them to garner much consideration in this discussion. Most won't know enough about them and won't have seen them live.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Macarthur said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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you don't need to ... way too obscure for frontman discussion

Benny - Tool

Macarthur - Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle

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You think Maynard is too obscure for discussion?

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I like Tool but....yeah. 4 studio albums in like 25 years. Haven't put one out in 13 years. rarely played on mainstream rock stations. Barely tour any more - in the last 8+ years they've played a handful (12ish) of concerts in most years and a few festivals and more Europe dates than anywhere else. Several years they have not played at all.They also aren't on itunes so a whole generation doesn't know anything about them.

Doesn't affect his quality as a frontman I suppose - but too obscure imho for people to know enough about him/them to garner much consideration in this discussion. Most won't know enough about them and won't have seen them live.

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Sad but true.

I think the two extra chromosomes confused them on how to make music.

Philo B 93 said:

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Rudyjax said:

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That's why I Lol'd at that comment.

Anyone who says that had never seen Pearl Jam live.

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Fair enough. I stand corrected about Vedder. I've watched a lot of vids of him live and agree that he's good. My point is that 90s grunge was a bit of a downer after all the good times before it, and the singers did not generally seem excited to be there.

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So this?

Im going to say this delicately and as politely as I can.

**** you ********. Don't even ****ing joke about that.

I hate you for even saying that. ****head.

I am a girl and would separate out honors by generation:

"Classic" original frontmen:
Mercury
Plant
Jagger
Honorable mention to Daltrey

80s:
Petty for longevity, discipline, and range
Hetfield
Rose
Honorable mention to Geddy Lee for technical prowess and longevity

90s/grunge underdog less showman type:
Cobain-(points removed for lack of ability to live past peak)
Grohl (personal fave, heart eyes emoji)
Vedder. (Extra points for putting out a ukulele album because you have no f's left to give.)

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Macarthur said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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you don't need to ... way too obscure for frontman discussion

Benny - Tool

Macarthur - Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle

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You think Maynard is too obscure for discussion?

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I like Tool but....yeah. 4 studio albums in like 25 years. Haven't put one out in 13 years. rarely played on mainstream rock stations. Barely tour any more - in the last 8+ years they've played a handful (12ish) of concerts in most years and a few festivals and more Europe dates than anywhere else. Several years they have not played at all.They also aren't on itunes so a whole generation doesn't know anything about them.

Doesn't affect his quality as a frontman I suppose - but too obscure imho for people to know enough about him/them to garner much consideration in this discussion. Most won't know enough about them and won't have seen them live.

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I actually think this fact makes them even more remarkable.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/why-people-still-care-about-tools-new-album-202991/

So, like Guns N' Roses' fabled 2008 LP, is this just another case where the project's absence is its main point of interest? I don't think so. This one feels different. Unlike Chinese Democracy, where fans and critics alike fixated on the increasingly farcical spectacle of its nonexistence as much as the prospect of what it could sound like, this is an album people actually seem to care about on a purely musical level. And here's why: Because Tool really are that ****ing good.



Tool's four albums to date contain some of the richest, most immersive rock music of the past 25 years. And what should by all appearances be a cult band is actually a mainstream juggernaut: The band's prior two albums debuted at Number One; the one before that came in at Number Two. Considering the contents of these releases, the wholly unreasonable demands they put upon a listener's time and attention span, those figures are staggering. Tool's music isn't just dark or perverse; it's radically ambitious, of a kind not seen since the gatefold double-LP days.


So why then, after such a long wait, do we still care? Because no other band on earth could possibly fill this void. It's not just that no active band really sounds like Tool; it's that no active band's sonic and conceptual universe feels anywhere near as vast. Eccentricity and mystery are qualities severely lacking in the world of Big Rock. Metallica are still making powerful records; U2 are still scratching that itch; Foo Fighters are still the Foo Fighters; Queens of the Stone Age are masters of their own offbeat niche. But none of these acts nor anyone else in 2018 is equipped to spin your head around and leave your third eye pried wide open.

Not really familiar with some of the names being thrown out so can't say yay or nay on those but for me its gota be Mercury.

Seeing his stage presence and command of 100K at Wembley - and not all Queen fans at Live Aid... or 250K in Rio....and 200K at Knebworth for their final show.....just incredible.

KidDoc said:

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Bruce Dickinson and it isn't even close. He has it all. Longevity, energy, vocals, writing. The guy was an olympic fencer, flies the 747 for the band, writes books & movies, then gets throat cancer-- beats throat cancer and still rocking like a maniac on stage.

I have seen Iron Maiden many times and every show is friggin nails. Just amazing performer and Bruce is the quintessential front man.

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Except he got fired by the band and u cant be the best frontman if someone else fronted your own band
They literally run concerts like a play same show every night and they are spectacular and a top 10 rock band of all time

Love the Maiden and my other brother you prob wanna meet to get backstage on the next tour

Tool is another light show band with a theatre production and not a rock concert

one of my favorite rock images. Axl at the queen tribute

Hetfield is my personal favorite but one name that doesn't get enough love is Trent Reznor. Pretty Hate Machine came out 30 years ago and he still has tons of energy on stage and he's crazy talented instrumentally. I'm not a big fan of his newer material but when he plays material from PHM, Broken, or TDS live he still kills it. I still love NIN, it remains in heavy gym rotation for me.

MookieBlaylock said:

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KidDoc said:

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Bruce Dickinson and it isn't even close. He has it all. Longevity, energy, vocals, writing. The guy was an olympic fencer, flies the 747 for the band, writes books & movies, then gets throat cancer-- beats throat cancer and still rocking like a maniac on stage.

I have seen Iron Maiden many times and every show is friggin nails. Just amazing performer and Bruce is the quintessential front man.

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Except he got fired by the band and u cant be the best frontman if someone else fronted your own band
They literally run concerts like a play same show every night and they are spectacular and a top 10 rock band of all time

Love the Maiden and my other brother you prob wanna meet to get backstage on the next tour

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When was he fired?

MookieBlaylock said:

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Tool is another light show band with a theatre production and not a rock concert

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Quote:

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Axl would be a legend had he died and we would all be better off never hearing use your illusion 1 and 2

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Your troll game is strong to quite strong today.

Scott Weiland is my all time favorite and I am really surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet.

Macarthur said:

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MookieBlaylock said:

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Tool is another light show band with a theatre production and not a rock concert

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Quote:

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Axl would be a legend had he died and we would all be better off never hearing use your illusion 1 and 2

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Your troll game is strong to quite strong today.

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After 20 years on the board pretty sure I don't troll

I may talk some crap but that right there was 100% of me saying GNR shat the bed and Tool is now a winery and a play

Never had the privilege to see mercury live and neither did anyone but fast Fred so I won't comment on him

I saw the grunge era and lived it and Vedder is on the level with his heroes

clintaggie04 said:

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Scott Weiland is my all time favorite and I am really surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet.

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Bc Weiland was so strung out on heroin he couldn't perform 90% of the time

STP was a studio production of fake Pearl Jam see Creed for further reference

And I love STP