C@LAg said:
do they actually make money on these films, once all P&A is factored in?
the budget-to-box office ratio seems to be close to the break-even/make little profit range.
I get keeping your IP in the public eye, but no one is really beating down the door demanding MORE star trek films.
C@LAg said:
do they actually make money on these films, once all P&A is factored in?
the budget-to-box office ratio seems to be close to the break-even/make little profit range.
I get keeping your IP in the public eye, but no one is really beating down the door demanding MORE star trek films.
jabberwalkie09 said:C@LAg said:
do they actually make money on these films, once all P&A is factored in?
the budget-to-box office ratio seems to be close to the break-even/make little profit range.
I get keeping your IP in the public eye, but no one is really beating down the door demanding MORE star trek films.
I mean, I'd at least give more Star Trek films a chance. I personally enjoyed Beyond, but also realize I was the minority in that. As long as they don't do the same dumb **** that gave us Into Darkness.
C@LAg said:
i get that. but the movies are just not making that much money for Paramount compared to other viable IPs.
Given they also have the two Start Trek shows - Discovery (which was significantly improved in Season 2) and Picard coming up, it is easy to see most pent up demand is being met.
The cast has been great. I've really liked these movies, especially the first. I'm glad they're still moving forward.TCTTS said:
I don't know, out of all the sh*tty IP out there, this seams like a weird one to harp on. For the most part they're fun movies that feature an incredible cast. Why not keep it going just a bit longer?
The merger is still progressing:jabberwalkie09 said:
Discovery and Picard are a CBS property, while the movies are Paramount's property. To my knowledge, I don't think the franchise was reunited under one banner/company. I know there were discussions about merging the franchise, but when Moonves was ousted from CBS I lost track of that.
This is all due to the Viacom and CBS split.
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And I thought season one of Discovery was terrible. I gave the second season a chance and just couldn't get on board. Picard hasn't made me want to go back to CBS All Access based on what I saw from Discovery, and Picard gives me the impression that it's going to cash in hard on the nostalgia factor, and I already have one franchise which did this and soured my taste for it.
double aught said:
So is this the end of the Kelvin timeline/Chris Pine films?
I believe the Noah Hawley one is still in development.double aught said:
So is this the end of the Kelvin timeline/Chris Pine films?
Sorry, I can see how that was confusing. The Noah Hawley-directed fourth movie in the Kelvin timeline is still very much alive. There were rumors that Tarantino's version might be Kelvin timeline and rumors that it wasn't. No one really knew for sure. Either way, the Noah Hawley version - which will be a direct sequel to Star Trek Beyond - is in active development, I would assume for either a late 2021 or summer 2022 debut.double aught said:
So is this the end of the Kelvin timeline/Chris Pine films?
I may have posted this before, but it applies here:oragator said:
Because for many of us who grew up on the original series it wasn't Star Trek, even if it was a decent movie. There were deep themes in many of the original episodes, and several of the movies. It was very much a franchise that tackled current issues via a sci fi premise or had thought provoking themes, which was largely what made it so good. Not only was the reboot little more than a popcorn flick, they took the name and then basically took a giant deuce over the entire original series, movies, and other series by invalidating it all, which was what QT was addressing.
If you're gonna call it Star Trek then honor the original or call it something else.
/nerd rant
To be fair, the last Star Trek movie like this was The Undiscovered Country. The Next-Generation movies were mostly dumb action movies.oragator said:
Because for many of us who grew up on the original series it wasn't Star Trek, even if it was a decent movie. There were deep themes in many of the original episodes, and several of the movies. It was very much a franchise that tackled current issues via a sci fi premise or had thought provoking themes, which was largely what made it so good. Not only was the reboot little more than a popcorn flick, they took the name and then basically took a giant deuce over the entire original series, movies, and other series by invalidating it all, which was what QT was addressing.
If you're gonna call it Star Trek then honor the original or call it something else.
/nerd rant
I'd take First Contact over anything except Wrath of Khan and The Voyage Home.MGS said:To be fair, the last Star Trek movie like this was The Undiscovered Country. The Next-Generation movies were mostly dumb action movies.oragator said:
Because for many of us who grew up on the original series it wasn't Star Trek, even if it was a decent movie. There were deep themes in many of the original episodes, and several of the movies. It was very much a franchise that tackled current issues via a sci fi premise or had thought provoking themes, which was largely what made it so good. Not only was the reboot little more than a popcorn flick, they took the name and then basically took a giant deuce over the entire original series, movies, and other series by invalidating it all, which was what QT was addressing.
If you're gonna call it Star Trek then honor the original or call it something else.
/nerd rant
"Resounding failure"? That's news to me.TCTTS said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2020/08/08/movies-box-office-star-trek-never-as-big-as-star-wars-avengers-transformers/#14f22f083dc4
