I didn't much care for sicario. Perhaps I wasn't in the mood for it.

For your complaint, I interpreted it as, "I can track the men that did this through the wilderness and kill if necessary."

I enjoyed the film. Thought Renner did a good job with the role.

Saw it today. This was a fantastic movie. Renner and Olsen both did great jobs.

I was a big fan of Sheridan after HoHW and Sicario, but this just solidified it. I would love to see him and Nic Pizzolato get together and write a season of true detective.

Also, the scene at the end between Renner and Olsen also reminded me of the "this is a land of wolves now" scene in Sicario between del Toro and Blunt.

"Luck don't live out here."

Excellent movie! I also thought the lions would be used as cover up.

Continuing the thought of why it was better than standard Hollywood films, I kept waiting for Renner to explain "I'm not killing you, the cold will", in reference to the coroner not declaring homocide. But instead, they trusted the viewer to remember on their own.

Great movie.

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Went and saw it this weekend and would put it ahead of Sicario and behind Hell or High Water.

One issue that I couldn't get over was the snowmobile tracks. The first time it is mentioned is at the brother's house when Renner sees them going to where the boyfriends body ultimately is. The trail starts from the brother's house but doesn't come back making him know there is a something/someone still out there. Then when they go to the refinery and Renner comes in from where he found the boyfriends body the trail ultimately comes from the refinery.

What doesn't make sense to me was why is there a trail from the brother's house to the boyfriend's body?

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I don't know. That's a question of mine as well.

1. They kill Matt, dump the body, then go get high? How did they get back to the drill site? Who thinks "let's get some drugs" after killing someone?
2. That's where they came from before the murder? Again, how did they get there with no second track?

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The way I took it, the killers took the boyfreind's body to the brother's house, unloaded the snowmobile and took the body up the mountain and dumped it there, then continued on back to the drill site. This was done to try and throw people off and make it look like someone who was living at the brother's shack transported the body.

The movie doesn't attempt to explain it but I'm pretty sure that's what was going on.

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I guess that makes the most sense, but why not return to the brother's house and come back the way you came?

Martin Q. Blank said:

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Belton Ag said:

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The way I took it, the killers took the boyfreind's body to the brother's house, unloaded the snowmobile and took the body up the mountain and dumped it there, then continued on back to the drill site. This was done to try and throw people off and make it look like someone who was living at the brother's shack transported the body.

The movie doesn't attempt to explain it but I'm pretty sure that's what was going on.

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I guess that makes the most sense, but why not return to the brother's house and come back the way you came?

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No clue. The murder wasn't planned and I'm sure there was a bit of a panic and they did what they thought was the best thing to tie it all to the druggies in that shack. Plus, they might have gone there looking for the girl and after not finding her there decided that dumping the body that way was best.

Excellent movie. Great writing and acting. Although, it was slower than I expected. I think Sicario and HOHW were better.

Some of the dialog didn't seem "natural" to me and more like something a writer would write than something a person would actually say in that situation.

The issue with the snowmobile tracks seems like it wasn't that well thought out also. If they were trying to frame the druggies, why not put the body somewhere closer to the trailer?

How many drilling rigs actually have a security detail of 6+ (?) former military guys on site 24x7? Especially for a site that is only accessible by snowmobile in winter? (Was similar somewhat to a storyline on Longmire a season or two ago)

Despite this nit-picking (and I recall having similar issues with Sicario)...I really enjoyed the movie.

The idea was for the guys body never to have been discovered. Another day or 2 and those tracks would have been gone naturally.

If that were the case, why drive over to the drug house? Why not just drag him into the woods and bury him? They had plenty of time.

They could've concocted some story about how he was to blame and he packed his bags and left.

I feel like so much of the story just needed to be tightened up just a bit.

I've seen it twice and the tracks from the drug house is still the part that slightly confuses me. If it was simply a plot device to lead Renner to the body, it's fairly cheap.

My guess is something got cut during editing and that led to the confusion. I'd love to hear some follow up from him on it.

Finally saw it....agree with most everything said here.

Beautifully done, you could just feel the loneliness, despair and tension. Great acting by all especially Renner and Graham Greene. And was pretty impressed with Elizabeth Olsen who I figured was going to be the weak link but was pretty good actually.

Yeah I think the setup of the tracks, etc. either needed a little more explanation or was just not well thought out. But it did not distract much.

Really kinda shocking final shootout there, wasn't expecting it to go that far off the rails. Really kinda questionable motives there, they could have easily blamed the whole thing on the boyfriend or on the instigator drunk guy and gotten away with it I'm sure...and then instead to escalate it where everyone basically dies...for that???? hmmm... but still enjoyed it

uhhh...they were ALL overing up a rape (and murder). Not sure what you mean by "all for that".

Just saw it last night. Wow, that was better than I expected.

The Mexican standoff and shootout scene were so intense and well done.

The brutal part for me was the moment where the two guys are racing to reload their guns and shoot each other while wounded and freezing cold. Gahh. That's up there with Hank's face-off with the two cousins in Breaking Bad.

Just watched it and loved it. Tyler Sheridan is on one hell of a run. Three great films in a row for him writing wise and a hell of a job directing.

Just watched it and really liked it. Great movie. Tyler Sheridan is on one hell of a run.

I think Elizabeth Olsen is my new favorite actress! Stunning!

I finally saw this after being excited about it for a long time. I thought it was great. The thing I loved the most (and maybe about all of Sherdian's films so far) is there is minimal need for suspension of disbelief. Everything in the story felt real and organic. From the setting, to the pacing, the grief, and finally even the gunfight, everything was straightforward and believable...nothing felt manufactured to give you the feels. My sister passed away at 18 and I'm sure I had a different perspective while watching. Natalie's mom has, what, ten seconds of screen time, but paints a huge picture of grief.

The only part that bugged me was at the beginning when Cory was walking right on top of the tracks in the snow as he followed them. The outdoorsman in me appreciates everything else.

Loved it for the raw emotion that it conveyed and the insight into rural WY and reservation life.

I could not help but be distracted by the issue of the snow mobile trails. I believe this was a "goof" in the writing or production and I spent more time trying to figure out that logic or story line than focusing on other aspects of the movie.

The gunfight scene was a little over the top for me, but made for good action suspense.

Part of me wants to believe that the trailer scene with the girl friend is "over the top" in terms of pure evil and violence, but I'm disturbed by the fact that things like that can and do happen.

Either way, I hugged my family a little tighter after watching that movie.

Streaming any where yet?

Watched it on a flight to NY on Tuesday (AA in-flight option). Great movie and always a nice surprise to catch something so good on a plane. Enjoyed it more than I thought I would.

Glad I wasn't the only one confused by the snowmobile tracks. The comment above that it may have been the victim of editing seems plausible. Although maybe it was just a casualty of being a movie thay didnt feel the need to spell everything out or have everything be clear, which is fine by me

One question - Renner's character was trying to warn the tribal sheriff on the radio, doesn't appear to be getting thru, but then the sheriff warns her. I was assuming the sheriff may have just realized it on his own, particularly due to how the security guard said "there is an fbi standing outside the door". Was that your take as well, or did a warning get thru?

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The only part that bugged me was at the beginning when Cory was walking right on top of the tracks in the snow as he followed them. The outdoorsman in me appreciates everything else.

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This may be completely wrong but I took it as he didn't know initially what he was walking up on so he didn't want to create fresh tracks. Then once he got far enough to see blood and then a body down the hill he didn't seem to do it the rest of the way down.

I think it's that he finally was able to warn him/get partial signal but it was probably quick and rough and it played better now being shown it like a typical movie would do.

Movie was fantastic

Makes sense. Kind of like the tracks, it's not something I needed spelled out completely to enjoy it. Less is more at times