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What led to the downfall of Creed?

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zgood10
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Alter Bridge
62strat
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redline248 said:

Did Breaking Benjamin settle all their legal disputes? How much of the current band is original members?
It's Ben and friends. They settled a while back I assume, because they started putting out new music/touring several years ago.

A few more early 2000s bands I forgot about that are still around:
Shinedown
Seether
Three days grace
Lifehouse
3 doors down


Some similar bands that have faded:
hoobastank, trapt, crossfade, cold, default (great underrated band IMO), puddle of mudd,

Honestly, creed was a bit ahead of their time.. their contemporaries didn't appear in droves until 3-4 years after creed did. They were on second album when most of them came around. Staind was also early on, having put out an album in the 90s.
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Anyone remember the band Tantric? I came across a list of rock songs that hit #1 on the billboard charts in the 2000s, and they had a song on the list.
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Tobias Funke said:

I will openly admit I owned Creed's first three albums (no idea if they had more) and had them on constant rotation.

Creed solidly appealed to the high school Christian kid trying to get a little more alternative / distance from Michael W Smith and Steven Curtis Chapman, and also put out some infectious lamely head-banging choruses.

I can't explain it, and I'm not claiming it was good, but I was into it.
It's like you looked right into my teenage soul and wrote down what you saw. This is exactly what it was for me.
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It is just a matter of time before some young record exec digs scott out of the looney bin and has him make a country album, all the while telling us he was a country boy all along.
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The clone of a clone argument is a funny analogy, but it really has a lot to do with Creed's lack of staying power.

They join many great clones and clones of clones. Ask the Kinks, the Monkeys, Warrant, Winger, Trixter, Steve Vai and all the Van Halen wannabes, Jet, Puddle of Mudd, Sum 41 and all the 90s country guys that came after George Strait and Garth Brooks.

On the other hand, if you do it right you can become a superstar on par with your influence. Hello Aerosmith.
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While Stapp was...being Stapp, Tremonti was woodshedding and turning into a serious guitarist. And finding a real lead singer for AB.

Check out his solo stuff. Fierce.
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Whoa, looks like he took over the band Scott Weiland fronted before he died: http://loudwire.com/art-of-anarchy-march-2017-the-madness-album/

He was in Houston recently, like last summer, on tour.
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62strat said:

redline248 said:

Did Breaking Benjamin settle all their legal disputes? How much of the current band is original members?
It's Ben and friends. They settled a while back I assume, because they started putting out new music/touring several years ago.

A few more early 2000s bands I forgot about that are still around:
Shinedown
Seether
Three days grace
Lifehouse
3 doors down


Some similar bands that have faded:
hoobastank, trapt, crossfade, cold, default (great underrated band IMO), puddle of mudd


Just looking at that list made my ears hurt.
redline248
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I remember Tremonti's album..but only ever heard 1 song off of it. I think it was largely underwhelming to most b/c he's not a great vocalist.
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Is the band Default still around?
rhutton125
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Interesting - I never knew they weren't technically a Christian band. I mean I guess it's easy to deny on a website FAQ section but keep promoting songs with spiritual lyrics and having your arms out while you sing like you're on a cross. It doesn't seem like they protested the label too hard.

That said, Stapp had a ton of demons in the years after, so I guess it doesn't matter who claimed what or denied what 15 years ago.

Here's the story of how T.I. and Alabama football saved his life:

http://www.espn.com/blog/music/post/_/id/3516/t-i-crimson-tide-save-creed-frontman
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CJS4715 said:

Is the band Default still around?
I don't know, but elocation is one of my favorite albums from that era. Highly underrated.

Tantric was great.. it was basically Days of the new, but with a singer that could handle his drug problem.
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dromo07 said:

Rocky
I opened this expecting it to be a Rocky thread.
Sea Gull
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bigjohn1 said:

NoahAg said:

Give 'em 10-15 years, they could reunite, and guarantee they would sell out a decent sized venue.

Heck, Vanilla Ice could put on shows today and get people to come out, even if just for the irony of it.
Probably not. Scott Stapp had (and still has) major mental issues (yes, insert joke here, but he has been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic). It led to the breakup of the band, his divorce, and then wandering down a highway in Florida in teh middle of the night mumbling to himself, until he was picked up by the authorities.

Meanwhile, the rest of the band has gone on to form Alter Bridge, and is actually quite successful. I actually like the stuff from Alter Bridge, as I thought Mark Tremonti was pretty talented as a guitarist, if he could just ahve gotten away from the d-baggery of Stapp.

Ok, have at me now with the jokes and comments, as a lot of people lump these bands in with Nickelback, which I am NOT a big fan of, and don't see the resemblance, but whatever...
Agreed...Stapp's mental issues tore the band apart. I actually enjoy Creed's stuff and will admit to still listening to it. I also really like Alter Bridge; although I can only take so much of Myles Kennedy's voice.

I wish they'd get back together and release a new album. I liked Full Circle, but that was back in 2009 or 2010.

I don't care what people think about folks liking Creed. I don't know when it became cool to hate on them. But if you like Nickelback, youre a ******.
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CJS4715 said:

Anyone remember the band Tantric? I came across a list of rock songs that hit #1 on the billboard charts in the 2000s, and they had a song on the list.
Oh wow...I haven't heard that band name in a while. What was the name of it? Breakdown or something?
Mega Lops
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A lot of the stuff that came out around and after 2000 is crappy poser rock and roll. Some bands had a few hits but by and large that stuff sucked.
rhutton125
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Headstrong
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Shredz.
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Yes. I think the same album also had a song called Mourning that was alright.

62strat, Elocation... that was a good album.
redline248
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rhutton125 said:

Headstrong
That was trapt.
62strat
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RPM said:

A lot of the stuff that came out around and after 2000 is crappy poser rock and roll. Some bands had a few hits but by and large that stuff sucked.
You know I thought this at the time, well not maybe 'sucked' but just didn't think it was living up to my beloved grunge and early 90s rock.

But now, 10-15 years later, I hear Octane on XM, they sometimes switch over to another format called Turbo (an online station), and it's all 2000s rock. I was in college for that second wave of 'post grunge' (the first wave being Live, STP, Collective Soul, Candlebox, etc.. mid 90s stuff), and for several years after was playing in a cover band (playing many of these bands) and generally in bars a lot with that music playing (plus all the buzzfests).. so I guess, even though I wasn't crazy about much of it then, it's kind of nostalgic for me now.

I doubt I'll look back on hard rock of today as nostalgic for me 10 years from now, because I just don't listen as much anymore.
dave99ag
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Cowboy Mouth

Is Fred still banging the hell out of the drums after all these years? I actually saw them in Iowa at RAGBRAI probably 6 years ago. Still plenty of energy then.
62strat
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CJS4715 said:

Yes. I think the same album also had a song called Mourning that was alright.

62strat, Elocation... that was a good album.
hah.. my buddy in college, his version of 'misheard lyrics':

'In the morning I can see the sights.. but what I really want is in between your thighs.'
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I'm class of 1995 so was more into 80s rock but I really enjoy Alter Bridge, burn halo, trapt, eve6. I went to a trapt and eve6 show fairly recently and it was great fun!
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Days of the New got me through a pretty tough year in 97. Touch Peel and Stand was a great album in this genre, but I think better than much of the other.
spadilly
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This thread is taking me back to 7th and 8th grade.
I'd like to add Orgy to the conversation of bands I haven't heard of since those days as well.
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Creed. The greatest Christian rock band ever
62strat
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VanZandt92 said:

Days of the New got me through a pretty tough year in 97. Touch Peel and Stand was a great album in this genre, but I think better than much of the other.
that's a song not an album. Album is self titled, along with the other two.

Was a great album. Saw them open for Metallica in late 90s. I read he grew up Idolizing Metallica and was totally jealous that there he was opening for them when he was like 19.
mhayden
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This thread is like I printed out a filename list on my college MP3 folder.
VanZandt92
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62strat said:

VanZandt92 said:

Days of the New got me through a pretty tough year in 97. Touch Peel and Stand was a great album in this genre, but I think better than much of the other.
that's a song not an album. Album is self titled, along with the other two.

Was a great album. Saw them open for Metallica in late 90s. I read he grew up Idolizing Metallica and was totally jealous that there he was opening for them when he was like 19.


Right yeah. Eponymous. Good album.
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Duck Patrol said:

CJS4715 said:

Anyone remember the band Tantric? I came across a list of rock songs that hit #1 on the billboard charts in the 2000s, and they had a song on the list.
Oh wow...I haven't heard that band name in a while. What was the name of it? Breakdown or something?
i liked Days of the New better, but Tantric was pretty much the same, even the new lead singer sounded almost the same.
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I legitimately got Tantic and Trapt mixed up.
TP Ag '87
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Yep. Cowboy Mouth is in Houston next Friday, 3/10, @ HOB. Still a great live act.
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mike_ags_fan12 said:

Creed. The greatest Christian rock band ever

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