mathguy86 said:

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The inductees are out. ELO, Journey, Yes, Pearl Jam, Tupac and Joan Baez.

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Solid group

Unthought Known said:

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I can't name a song yes or ELO has. I can name 90% of Pearl Jam songs in 10 notes or less.

Obviously they belong.

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a. you must be young
b. you're not exactly the demographic they cater to

mathguy86 said:

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The inductees are out. ELO, Journey, Yes, Pearl Jam, Tupac and Joan Baez.

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well just saw this follow up

doesn't surprise me they had to be more diverse.

Cars will get there soon.

thats not a bad group at all. 4 of them are musts - ELO, Yes, Pearl Jam and Journey. thats gonna be one hell of a final jam session. Very eclectic. Please please please Steve.....rejoin Journey just for this (and maybe that'll get a reunion tour going???).

Tupac - I get it.

Baez - of course it would happen this year, she'll make it a political thing of course and anti-Trump

Good group - concert and induction ceremony will be fun.

Steve Perry has to be there - it would be THE highlight of the whole deal - what about Greg Rolle (singer before SP?)

And Cars are >>>>>>>>Yes. Only disappointment.

mathguy86 said:

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That makes the Traveling Wilburys the super group to end all super groups. Dylan, Orbison, Harrison, Petty and now Lynne are all in HoF.

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speaking of....Petty is on the road again in 2017 with the Heartbreakers....40th Anniversary tour.

got my Dallas tix already.

with special guest Joe Walsh. Pretty cool.

That Bad Brains (whoeverTF that is) is even nominated before bands like Yes, ELO, Journey, Pearl Jam, the Zombies, and the Cars is just ridiculous!

MooreTrucker said:

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That Bad Brains (whoeverTF that is) is even nominated before bands like Yes, ELO, Journey, Pearl Jam, the Zombies, and the Cars is just ridiculous!

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They weren't nominated before those bands or some of them. They were nominated THIS year for the first time. And they were nominated by a fan vote - something that would go to an obscure band. They include one fan vote band every year on the ballot.

They were NOT inducted - thats a separate thing. They were simply nominated - on the ballot basically.

FYI - you are only eligible for nomination and induction 25 years after your first album - so this is the FIRST year Pearl jam was even eligible. So thats why Pearl Jam is a first time nominee and got inducted as a first time nominee too. So don't compare that to Bad Brains who first released an album in 1977.

And the Cars and Yes have been nominated before - they just weren't inducted before. Meaning they were on the ballot but did not get enough votes (you have to get 50% or more).

ELO and Journey maybe should have been nominated before sure....but they just had to wait their tun...look the Hall started in 1986 and only inducts 5-7 per year. They've been playing catch up for a long time. Rush and Kiss only recently got in for gods sake.

FYI these are the members they included for the groups inducted:


YES - everyone from heydey 2 drummers, 2 guitarists, 1 bassist, 2 keyboardists, 1 lead vocalist
Jon Anderson, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, Tony Kaye, Trevor Rabin, Chris Squire, Rick Wakeman and Alan White

Journey - so mainstays Cain, Schon, Smith and Valory plus both vocalists Perry and Rollie and early drummer Dunbar
Jonathan Cain, Aynsley Dunbar, Steve Perry, Gregg Rolie, Neal Schon, Steve Smith and Ross Valory

ELO - founders (Lynne and Wood) and longest running keyboardist Tandy and original drummer Bevan
Bev Bevan, Jeff Lynne, Richard Tandy and Roy Wood

Pearl Jam - current lineup and original drummer (Krusen)
Jeff Ament, Matt Cameron, Stone Gossard, Dave Krusen, Mike McCready and Eddie Vedder

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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MooreTrucker said:

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That Bad Brains (whoeverTF that is) is even nominated before bands like Yes, ELO, Journey, Pearl Jam, the Zombies, and the Cars is just ridiculous!

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They weren't nominated before those bands or some of them. They were nominated THIS year for the first time. And they were nominated by a fan vote - something that would go to an obscure band. They include one fan vote band every year on the ballot.

They were NOT inducted - thats a separate thing. They were simply nominated - on the ballot basically.

FYI - you are only eligible for nomination and induction 25 years after your first album - so this is the FIRST year Pearl jam was even eligible. So thats why Pearl Jam is a first time nominee and got inducted as a first time nominee too. So don't compare that to Bad Brains who first released an album in 1977.

And the Cars and Yes have been nominated before - they just weren't inducted before. Meaning they were on the ballot but did not get enough votes (you have to get 50% or more).

ELO and Journey maybe should have been nominated before sure....but they just had to wait their tun...look the Hall started in 1986 and only inducts 5-7 per year. They've been playing catch up for a long time. Rush and Kiss only recently got in for gods sake.

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OK, I should have said "nominated before/with". The point remains that Bad Brains is pretty obscure compared to the others. It certainly wasn't intended to be a personal slight.

yeah i just also figured you didn't know it was by a fan vote - and rock fans are notoriously anti establishment. they also know the big names will get nominated in due time anyway. so they purposefully target bands like that.

believe me i don't care either way about Bad Brains. just explaining that others were nominated before, or were not eligible before and why an obscure band would be. sometimes just being nominated is a big thing for an obscure but maybe influential band.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Unthought Known said:

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I can't name a song yes or ELO has. I can name 90% of Pearl Jam songs in 10 notes or less.

Obviously they belong.

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a. you must be young
b. you're not exactly the demographic they cater to

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Hahah...i wish. I'm 45 next month.

My "grandpa" (not by blood but consider him so) is a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer inductee. I'll have to ask him what he thinks of the new batch. I'm good with the choices.

Steppenwolf gets shafted again.

PLUM LOCO said:

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Steppenwolf gets shafted again.

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still waiting for their third hit....


jk

Zombie, I think if a artist only gets in because of hits it is due to fail as a shrine.

Artist should be inducted because of the influence they provided from their art.

No to Tupac (rap) and Baez (folk).

How did Tupac get in before Chic?

It would be great to see Steve Perry sing with Journey again. It doesn't matter that they don't like each other that much. They made great songs!

PLUM LOCO said:

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Zombie, I think if a artist only gets in because of hits it is due to fail as a shrine.

Artist should be inducted because of the influence they provided from their art.

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Can't say that I've ever heard any artists claim Steppenwolf as a major influence on them.

nashvilleaggie11 said:

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My "grandpa" (not by blood but consider him so) is a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer inductee. I'll have to ask him what he thinks of the new batch. I'm good with the choices.

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May I ask who he is?

Sam Moore of Sam and Dave.

nashvilleaggie11 said:

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Sam Moore of Sam and Dave.

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No way! That is awesome.

nashvilleaggie11 said:

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Sam Moore of Sam and Dave.

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Wow! Very cool!

And to brag a little more....Rolling Stone named Sam one of the "100 Greatest Singers of All Time." He is pretty amazing...81 years old and still performing.

I've seen him perform before. He is a true legend. A soul man, if you will.

62strat said:

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I heard Steve Perry had a family member die recently, and the current *Chinese*Journey singer called him up and said 'Don't stop, bereaving'


Bada ching.

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FIFY.

Oh, and my only comment is that Tupac is NOT rock n roll. I'm not knocking Tupac. I'm just sick of the PC bullcrap that says, well, we need to include black artists so they don't feel left out. Go start a Rap / Hip-hop hall of fame! FWIW, I'd love to see that.

Say Chowdah said:

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How did Tupac get in before Chic?

It would be great to see Steve Perry sing with Journey again. It doesn't matter that they don't like each other that much. They made great songs!

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I think Perry will show up, but I also think there is a chance he does not sing. He hasn't sung those songs in ages, and they are at a high register that I'm sure he can't hit anymore. Think of some of those parts on "must sing" Don't Stop Belivein'.
Problem is, if he shows up and does not sing everyone will be dissapointed. You could have the Filipino kid sing them, but again, a disappointment if Perry is actually in attendance.

Aust Ag said:

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Say Chowdah said:

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How did Tupac get in before Chic?

It would be great to see Steve Perry sing with Journey again. It doesn't matter that they don't like each other that much. They made great songs!

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I think Perry will show up, but I also think there is a chance he does not sing. He hasn't sung those songs in ages, and they are at a high register that I'm sure he can't hit anymore. Think of some of those parts on "must sing" Don't Stop Belivein'.
Problem is, if he shows up and does not sing everyone will be dissapointed. You could have the Filipino kid sing them, but again, a disappointment if Perry is actually in attendance.

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He just performed earlier this year with another band doing Journey songs.....he can still do it.

I mean they can be selective also and choose songs better suited for what he can hit now.

Look Rush still trots out there (until recently) even though Geddy Lee can't hit those notes any more.

I'm just really really hopeful. One last time at least Steve - come on man - it's tradition at RHOF to come together again.

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He hasn't sung those songs in ages, and they are at a high register that I'm sure he can't hit anymore.

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Just have a trio of female backup singers who can hit the high notes. Its worked for Mick Jagger for 40 years now!

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Aust Ag said:

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Say Chowdah said:

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How did Tupac get in before Chic?

It would be great to see Steve Perry sing with Journey again. It doesn't matter that they don't like each other that much. They made great songs!

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I think Perry will show up, but I also think there is a chance he does not sing. He hasn't sung those songs in ages, and they are at a high register that I'm sure he can't hit anymore. Think of some of those parts on "must sing" Don't Stop Belivein'.
Problem is, if he shows up and does not sing everyone will be dissapointed. You could have the Filipino kid sing them, but again, a disappointment if Perry is actually in attendance.

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He just performed earlier this year with another band doing Journey songs.....he can still do it.

I mean they can be selective also and choose songs better suited for what he can hit now.

Look Rush still trots out there (until recently) even though Geddy Lee can't hit those notes any more.

I'm just really really hopeful. One last time at least Steve - come on man - it's tradition at RHOF to come together again.

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Steven Tyler has a guy help him on the higher notes now too.

So who's next? They have done a pretty good job the last several years of inducting bands that the public wanted (Rush, KISS, Yes, SRV).

Foo Fighters will get in first ballot but they aren't eligible until 2019 or 2020. I would like to see The Alan Parsons Project.