I'm probably oversimplifying, but I'd imagine they all just think Coop didn't actually do anything. From their perspective, he went through a black hole, disappeared, and showed up again. That's wild, but not heroic. They all think Murph is a genius but a bit disturbed. Nobody, even her family, believes that she got her theory from her father. They credit her as a genius and think she had her math in her head even if she didn't realize it. That makes Coop interesting and Murph the savior of humanity.
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Yea that's the way I lean regarding Coop's standing in the "present day"
I will quote another poster from an earlier comment.BQRyno said:
I'm probably oversimplifying, but I'd imagine they all just think Coop didn't actually do anything. From their perspective, he went through a black hole, disappeared, and showed up again. That's wild, but not heroic. They all think Murph is a genius but a bit disturbed. Nobody, even her family, believes that she got her theory from her father. They credit her as a genius and think she had her math in her head even if she didn't realize it. That makes Coop interesting and Murph the savior of humanity.
- The space station is named after Cooper's daughter, and according to the doctor tending to Coop, "She's always maintained just how important you were" (referring to Coop).
- Cooper's handler/chauffeur on Cooper Station tells Coop that he wrote a high school paper about him. "I know all about your life back on Earth," he tells him.
- And as someone mentioned earlier, they recreate Cooper's and Murphy's home on Earth on Cooper Station.
In other words, there's no way everyone and their dog doesn't know about Coop's exploits, and what he did to save the world. That he's still alive, all those years later, should be even more of a shocker.
I granted the Murph deathbed scene some artistic license. Their reunion was weird but served its purpose while not dwelling on it so Nolan could move forward with the epilogue - Murph's narration of Coop heading to find Brand which I thought was a thought provoking ending.
ea1060 said:I will quote another poster from an earlier comment.BQRyno said:
I'm probably oversimplifying, but I'd imagine they all just think Coop didn't actually do anything. From their perspective, he went through a black hole, disappeared, and showed up again. That's wild, but not heroic. They all think Murph is a genius but a bit disturbed. Nobody, even her family, believes that she got her theory from her father. They credit her as a genius and think she had her math in her head even if she didn't realize it. That makes Coop interesting and Murph the savior of humanity.
- The space station is named after Cooper's daughter, and according to the doctor tending to Coop, "She's always maintained just how important you were" (referring to Coop).
- Cooper's handler/chauffeur on Cooper Station tells Coop that he wrote a high school paper about him. "I know all about your life back on Earth," he tells him.
- And as someone mentioned earlier, they recreate Cooper's and Murphy's home on Earth on Cooper Station.
In other words, there's no way everyone and their dog doesn't know about Coop's exploits, and what he did to save the world. That he's still alive, all those years later, should be even more of a shocker.
I don't think the bolder points are smoking guns. Based on the dialogue Coop had with the doctor right after waking up, Murph herself is basically humanity's main hero in getting off of earth. She talks about how important her dad was to her, and that could be enough for someone to write a paper on his earth life and leaving on his mission. It doesn't necessarily mean the student is aware of all of what happened after that.
The recreation of the home argument falls into he same category. It's a great dedication to why they had to leave earth, with the people on those TVs talking about the dust bowl they were in. They may have wanted to recreate her place as that is where their humanity hero grew up. Again, nothing inherently just because of Coop.
You obviously don't get Murph'a gravity revelation and status without Coop's message, but it didn't seem that there was any external knowledge of their "ghost" relationship besides between them two.
Interstellar is maybe my fav movie, but agree that the lack of fanfare for Coops return felt like "**** we are out of screen time, just do the coop and Murph reunion screen". Guy comes back from the dead after traveling through a black hole and no one in his family cares to say hello
Chipotlemonger said:ea1060 said:I will quote another poster from an earlier comment.BQRyno said:
I'm probably oversimplifying, but I'd imagine they all just think Coop didn't actually do anything. From their perspective, he went through a black hole, disappeared, and showed up again. That's wild, but not heroic. They all think Murph is a genius but a bit disturbed. Nobody, even her family, believes that she got her theory from her father. They credit her as a genius and think she had her math in her head even if she didn't realize it. That makes Coop interesting and Murph the savior of humanity.
- The space station is named after Cooper's daughter, and according to the doctor tending to Coop, "She's always maintained just how important you were" (referring to Coop).
- Cooper's handler/chauffeur on Cooper Station tells Coop that he wrote a high school paper about him. "I know all about your life back on Earth," he tells him.
- And as someone mentioned earlier, they recreate Cooper's and Murphy's home on Earth on Cooper Station.
In other words, there's no way everyone and their dog doesn't know about Coop's exploits, and what he did to save the world. That he's still alive, all those years later, should be even more of a shocker.
I don't think the bolder points are smoking guns. Based on the dialogue Coop had with the doctor right after waking up, Murph herself is basically humanity's main hero in getting off of earth. She talks about how important her dad was to her, and that could be enough for someone to write a paper on his earth life and leaving on his mission. It doesn't necessarily mean the student is aware of all of what happened after that.
The recreation of the home argument falls into he same category. It's a great dedication to why they had to leave earth, with the people on those TVs talking about the dust bowl they were in. They may have wanted to recreate her place as that is where their humanity hero grew up. Again, nothing inherently just because of Coop.
You obviously don't get Murph'a gravity revelation and status without Coop's message, but it didn't seem that there was any external knowledge of their "ghost" relationship besides between them two.
Ive changed my mind after thinking about this. There's little fanfare becuase no one thinks he saved anything. They think she did. I don't think she would've told everyone about the ghost in her bookcase because that would've made her seem crazy and possibly detract from the scientific message. Only she and he knew the truth.
I also think that's why she would've wanted the farmhouse recreated as her private homage to the man that really saved the world.
Mark your calendars for todays date. Someone's mind has been changed by what they read on the internet.
I've loved Interstellar since the first viewing, and it only gets better for me.
Chipotlemonger said:ea1060 said:I will quote another poster from an earlier comment.BQRyno said:
I'm probably oversimplifying, but I'd imagine they all just think Coop didn't actually do anything. From their perspective, he went through a black hole, disappeared, and showed up again. That's wild, but not heroic. They all think Murph is a genius but a bit disturbed. Nobody, even her family, believes that she got her theory from her father. They credit her as a genius and think she had her math in her head even if she didn't realize it. That makes Coop interesting and Murph the savior of humanity.
- The space station is named after Cooper's daughter, and according to the doctor tending to Coop, "She's always maintained just how important you were" (referring to Coop).
- Cooper's handler/chauffeur on Cooper Station tells Coop that he wrote a high school paper about him. "I know all about your life back on Earth," he tells him.
- And as someone mentioned earlier, they recreate Cooper's and Murphy's home on Earth on Cooper Station.
In other words, there's no way everyone and their dog doesn't know about Coop's exploits, and what he did to save the world. That he's still alive, all those years later, should be even more of a shocker.
I don't think the bolder points are smoking guns. Based on the dialogue Coop had with the doctor right after waking up, Murph herself is basically humanity's main hero in getting off of earth. She talks about how important her dad was to her, and that could be enough for someone to write a paper on his earth life and leaving on his mission. It doesn't necessarily mean the student is aware of all of what happened after that.
The recreation of the home argument falls into he same category. It's a great dedication to why they had to leave earth, with the people on those TVs talking about the dust bowl they were in. They may have wanted to recreate her place as that is where their humanity hero grew up. Again, nothing inherently just because of Coop.
You obviously don't get Murph'a gravity revelation and status without Coop's message, but it didn't seem that there was any external knowledge of their "ghost" relationship besides between them two.
There is. In their reunion, Murph tells Cooper, "People didn't believe me. They thought I was doing it all by myself, but I knew who it was." I think she always maintained that it was him, but the likelihood of that and how it could possibly come to be would seem improbable and impossible to just about anyone else.
ETA I think plenty of people "knew" the truth, but I think she might be the only person who believed it.
BudFox7 said:
Interstellar is maybe my fav movie, but agree that the lack of fanfare for Coops return felt like "**** we are out of screen time, just do the coop and Murph reunion screen". Guy comes back from the dead after traveling through a black hole and no one in his family cares to say hello
I think going into that starts treading into prolonged, multiple endings territory. We don't know that they didn't say hello and talk at some point.
To me, the bigger issue is them traveling between planets so quickly around Gargantua. Should have been months or years in between there.
Did I do that?Ol_Ag_02 said:Chipotlemonger said:ea1060 said:I will quote another poster from an earlier comment.BQRyno said:
I'm probably oversimplifying, but I'd imagine they all just think Coop didn't actually do anything. From their perspective, he went through a black hole, disappeared, and showed up again. That's wild, but not heroic. They all think Murph is a genius but a bit disturbed. Nobody, even her family, believes that she got her theory from her father. They credit her as a genius and think she had her math in her head even if she didn't realize it. That makes Coop interesting and Murph the savior of humanity.
- The space station is named after Cooper's daughter, and according to the doctor tending to Coop, "She's always maintained just how important you were" (referring to Coop).
- Cooper's handler/chauffeur on Cooper Station tells Coop that he wrote a high school paper about him. "I know all about your life back on Earth," he tells him.
- And as someone mentioned earlier, they recreate Cooper's and Murphy's home on Earth on Cooper Station.
In other words, there's no way everyone and their dog doesn't know about Coop's exploits, and what he did to save the world. That he's still alive, all those years later, should be even more of a shocker.
I don't think the bolder points are smoking guns. Based on the dialogue Coop had with the doctor right after waking up, Murph herself is basically humanity's main hero in getting off of earth. She talks about how important her dad was to her, and that could be enough for someone to write a paper on his earth life and leaving on his mission. It doesn't necessarily mean the student is aware of all of what happened after that.
The recreation of the home argument falls into he same category. It's a great dedication to why they had to leave earth, with the people on those TVs talking about the dust bowl they were in. They may have wanted to recreate her place as that is where their humanity hero grew up. Again, nothing inherently just because of Coop.
You obviously don't get Murph'a gravity revelation and status without Coop's message, but it didn't seem that there was any external knowledge of their "ghost" relationship besides between them two.
Ive changed my mind after thinking about this. There's little fanfare becuase no one thinks he saved anything. They think she did. I don't think she would've told everyone about the ghost in her bookcase because that would've made her seem crazy and possibly detract from the scientific message. Only she and he knew the truth.
I also think that's why she would've wanted the farmhouse recreated as her private homage to the man that really saved the world.
Mark your calendars for todays date. Someone's mind has been changed by what they read on the internet.
Thank you for the ETA. But I would also add, even by him being there now, that doesn't mean people around there even believe her still!ABATTBQ11 said:Chipotlemonger said:
You obviously don't get Murph'a gravity revelation and status without Coop's message, but it didn't seem that there was any external knowledge of their "ghost" relationship besides between them two.
There is. In their reunion, Murph tells Cooper, "People didn't believe me. They thought I was doing it all by myself, but I knew who it was." I think she always maintained that it was him, but the likelihood of that and how it could possibly come to be would seem improbable and impossible to just about anyone else.
ETA I think plenty of people "knew" the truth, but I think she might be the only person who believed it.
Yeah. To believe her story would require a lot of people to let go of their understanding of the universe. Him just kind of showing up would be an absolutely mind blowing event for humanity, and I'm sure there would be plenty of debate on exactly what happened and how. Still, history shows us that even the smartest people in the world can have concrete proof that their entire concept of the universe is flawed and they still won't let go.
ETA (again) I think that plays into the central theme of the movie about how transcendent their love was for one another and how it stretched across time and space. It was purely faith on her part that she needed no confirmation for.
ETA (again) I think that plays into the central theme of the movie about how transcendent their love was for one another and how it stretched across time and space. It was purely faith on her part that she needed no confirmation for.
Chipotlemonger said:Did I do that?Ol_Ag_02 said:Chipotlemonger said:ea1060 said:I will quote another poster from an earlier comment.BQRyno said:
I'm probably oversimplifying, but I'd imagine they all just think Coop didn't actually do anything. From their perspective, he went through a black hole, disappeared, and showed up again. That's wild, but not heroic. They all think Murph is a genius but a bit disturbed. Nobody, even her family, believes that she got her theory from her father. They credit her as a genius and think she had her math in her head even if she didn't realize it. That makes Coop interesting and Murph the savior of humanity.
- The space station is named after Cooper's daughter, and according to the doctor tending to Coop, "She's always maintained just how important you were" (referring to Coop).
- Cooper's handler/chauffeur on Cooper Station tells Coop that he wrote a high school paper about him. "I know all about your life back on Earth," he tells him.
- And as someone mentioned earlier, they recreate Cooper's and Murphy's home on Earth on Cooper Station.
In other words, there's no way everyone and their dog doesn't know about Coop's exploits, and what he did to save the world. That he's still alive, all those years later, should be even more of a shocker.
I don't think the bolder points are smoking guns. Based on the dialogue Coop had with the doctor right after waking up, Murph herself is basically humanity's main hero in getting off of earth. She talks about how important her dad was to her, and that could be enough for someone to write a paper on his earth life and leaving on his mission. It doesn't necessarily mean the student is aware of all of what happened after that.
The recreation of the home argument falls into he same category. It's a great dedication to why they had to leave earth, with the people on those TVs talking about the dust bowl they were in. They may have wanted to recreate her place as that is where their humanity hero grew up. Again, nothing inherently just because of Coop.
You obviously don't get Murph'a gravity revelation and status without Coop's message, but it didn't seem that there was any external knowledge of their "ghost" relationship besides between them two.
Ive changed my mind after thinking about this. There's little fanfare becuase no one thinks he saved anything. They think she did. I don't think she would've told everyone about the ghost in her bookcase because that would've made her seem crazy and possibly detract from the scientific message. Only she and he knew the truth.
I also think that's why she would've wanted the farmhouse recreated as her private homage to the man that really saved the world.
Mark your calendars for todays date. Someone's mind has been changed by what they read on the internet.
You're the real MVP, Arvind!
Flipped it on last night to fall asleep to the soundtrack. And ended up watching the whole damn thing. Ugh, I'm tired now.
But yeah, it's exactly as you guys mentioned above. He gets credit from her, but nothing to the extent deserved.
My only minor question is around sending data of that magnitude via Morse. I know I know. It's a movie. But I'm wondering how it would ever make any sense and was he just sending a huge loop so she could capture whatever was missed at the beginning of the message? Think I'm hung up on it just because it's such a cool concept. And I'm still pissed off that guy died in the tidal wave because of slow ass Brandt.
But yeah, it's exactly as you guys mentioned above. He gets credit from her, but nothing to the extent deserved.
My only minor question is around sending data of that magnitude via Morse. I know I know. It's a movie. But I'm wondering how it would ever make any sense and was he just sending a huge loop so she could capture whatever was missed at the beginning of the message? Think I'm hung up on it just because it's such a cool concept. And I'm still pissed off that guy died in the tidal wave because of slow ass Brandt.
Just think about it as Jamie from Yellowstone getting killed and it won't bother you as much.
Speaking of ridiculous shows
Haven't seen Yellowstone yet. But thanks for the tip
GF are getting a new 4K OLED tv today and Interstellar is what we're going to watch first
Just came across this article.
It makes a good point.
https://screenrant.com/interstellar-no-wildlife-detail-movie-better/
It makes a good point.
https://screenrant.com/interstellar-no-wildlife-detail-movie-better/
How have I never realized this
Yeah. It's an eye opener.
This was showing in theaters in our city tonight (I'm assuming for the 10 year anniversary) so we went ahead and caught it. Man, it hasn't aged a bit. What an awesome, thrilling, and creative movie. My girlfriend had never seen it and she absolutely loved it. She was literally on the edge of her seat during the "No Time for Caution" docking scene. Felt like we both walked out needing a cig.
Who did this fam? 💀💀💀 pic.twitter.com/Bxb5s2fw0c
— Korked Bats (@korkedbats) January 11, 2025
When this happened last night, I knew someone would do this.
It's glorious.
It's glorious.
Showed this to my kids and they were blown away with how FAST this came out. I think they're semi-interested in IT now… just so they can rag their friends and now it seems achievable
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