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it's not just entertainment that atmag makes his presence felt.

http://texags.com/forums/12/topics/2741996

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If you are wrong, it is my duty to call you out. I'm doing the board a service.

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atm: You do understand that the examples you posted are also different from Avatar, correct?

Those are marker-based performance capture, which is a different technology. Notice there are no cameras on their faces.

With Avatar, they used cameras on their faces that recorded every square inch of their face in amazing detail, and the dots painted on their faces were merely supporting this process. It wasn't just markers.

I say with with zero sarcasm or trying to show you up: If you care to research the technology, please do so. It is pretty fascinating and you'll understand why you are arguing on the wrong side here.

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I spent a good 10 years of my life in the computer graphics field, and now work in high fidelity simulation. There is NOTHING special about what Cameron did in comparison to those prior to him. Just because the cameras weren't go-pro looking things attached 8 inches from their face does not mean their faces and dots were not on camera. In Dead Man's Chest, the cameras were merely farther away, since they already had the POV and frame was defined, they didn't NEED another set of cameras 8 inches away. While having them in closer might make the movements more discernible to the computers, but it does not change the mathematics in any way. It's still dot's on camera which are processed by the same algorithms that people developed years prior. Cameron did make the colors brighter and whatnot, because he had the luxury of rendering the entire screen, so I guess there is that "innovation".

And, BTW, I'm not bashing Cameron for the hell of it. I think he did break new ground in T2.

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By high fidelity simulation, do you mean the ATM machine you built?

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I worked on a project that built a touch screen ATM machine.

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A quick search on your recent post history shows you are an expert at everything.

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This is a load of crap. I worked for the math department at A&M teaching math, have been an engineer for decades, and been programming for longer than that. Under none of those circumstances does anybody use anything like sqrt(4)= +-2.

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I was at HP when HP and Agilent split and I was at Compaq when HP and Compaq merged. I am uniquely qualified to speak on the subject of both companies.

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I worked in the intelligence business, and I know you are a fool.

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So many great brags in there... wish it was in audio, so we could string them all together.

That is so perfect!

Hi, my name is Mr. Charles.

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So many great brags in there... wish it was in audio, so we could string them all together.

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Well, here's the theme song.



Is this dude retired? It seems like he could have had like four or five different careers by now.

Was wondering if I was the only one seeing his background all come together between threads.
What the hell?! A regular MFBarnes?!

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atm: You do understand that the examples you posted are also different from Avatar, correct?

Those are marker-based performance capture, which is a different technology. Notice there are no cameras on their faces.

With Avatar, they used cameras on their faces that recorded every square inch of their face in amazing detail, and the dots painted on their faces were merely supporting this process. It wasn't just markers.

I say with with zero sarcasm or trying to show you up: If you care to research the technology, please do so. It is pretty fascinating and you'll understand why you are arguing on the wrong side here.

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I spent a good 10 years of my life in the computer graphics field, and now work in high fidelity simulation. There is NOTHING special about what Cameron did in comparison to those prior to him. Just because the cameras weren't go-pro looking things attached 8 inches from their face does not mean their faces and dots were not on camera. In Dead Man's Chest, the cameras were merely farther away, since they already had the POV and frame was defined, they didn't NEED another set of cameras 8 inches away. While having them in closer might make the movements more discernible to the computers, but it does not change the mathematics in any way. It's still dot's on camera which are processed by the same algorithms that people developed years prior. Cameron did make the colors brighter and whatnot, because he had the luxury of rendering the entire screen, so I guess there is that "innovation".

And, BTW, I'm not bashing Cameron for the hell of it. I think he did break new ground in T2.

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By high fidelity simulation, do you mean the ATM machine you built?

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I worked on a project that built a touch screen ATM machine.

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A quick search on your recent post history shows you are an expert at everything.

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This is a load of crap. I worked for the math department at A&M teaching math, have been an engineer for decades, and been programming for longer than that. Under none of those circumstances does anybody use anything like sqrt(4)= +-2.

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I was at HP when HP and Agilent split and I was at Compaq when HP and Compaq merged. I am uniquely qualified to speak on the subject of both companies.

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I worked in the intelligence business, and I know you are a fool.

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Starting in HS and lasting until I was out of college, I did a lot of work on computer graphics. During college I was paid by the mathematics department as a Maple lab assistant and spend my weekends and after hours tutoring calculus students. During my Jr and Sr years, I cooped at an intelligence agency. After I left college I became a self employed contractor. My first contract was with HP in California that lasted until the dot-com bubble burst. While I was there, Agilent broke off of HP and I was on the Agilent side. My contract work at HP was only part time, and the rest of the time I worked on a SCADA product (automating pipelines and stuff like that). After the dot-com burst, I worked as a contractor for a (now defunct) company called Amstar which was the touch screen ATM machine. That company had financial problems and went under owing me and several others tens of thousands of dollars. I was in need for a job quickly, so I accepted an offer at Compaq in Houston and was there when HP merged with them. After doing that for a while, my kids were getting old enough that it was BS for me to leave them with mom all the time, so I left Compaq/HP and found contract work in Dallas. After getting tired of that drive, I quit being a contractor altogether and went to work for Lockheed Martin full time in the field of high fidelity simulation. That's where I am now, though I still work on side projects.

Sorry to disappoint your gotcha attempt.

What sort of graphics work did you do?

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What sort of graphics work did you do?

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When I was in HS and college, I went through a period where I thought I wanted to code 3D games for a living. So a lot of it has do do with that. After I got out of college, my graphics background helped me get the contract job at HP, though I eventually was moved onto instrument stuff that had nothing to do with graphics. Stuff like OpenGL and DirectX came out and put in hardware things I used to do manually in code. So while I knew a lot of the math under the covers, I was really on the same playing field as students coming out of college who knew openGL. So I figured rather than work 60 hours a week doing the same thing college grads were doing, to go into areas that they couldn't. That's when I got out of graphics and gave up the whole gaming fantasy. Good thing, I understand those places are miserable to work for.

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I have not seen the LOTR. Just not my cup of tea. I'll stay out of that argument.

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What's not your cup of tea?

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I have not seen the LOTR. Just not my cup of tea. I'll stay out of that argument.

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What's not your cup of tea?

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Good God, he was about to stop talking ....

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Just to piss you off.

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I have not seen the LOTR. Just not my cup of tea. I'll stay out of that argument.

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What's not your cup of tea?

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Good God, he was about to stop talking ....

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My bad

Maybe for Avatar 2 the evil, capitalist, corporate/military, planet rapers, can bring along Jesuit priests to try and convert the Navi blue people, and set up a reservation system for them complete with liquor stores, fireworks stands, and casinos.

Cause that would be awesome.