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If you will be mad that she lives you have to be furious that the hound lived. A compound fracture of the femor along with his other injuries would absolutely be fatal.

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In the books, the Elder Brother has healing powers said to be unmatched by anyone.....

I agree 100%. I think it was a foolish thing to do, and out of charterer for Little Finger, but not an intentionally malicious act. The writers and producers have said as much.

Love this! No idea if its true but I like it.

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Just thought of something - We all thought it strange that Arya went from hiding in the dark ready for battle to strolling around, calling attention to herself...maybe this is another argument for the theory that the Arya that was stabbed was not the real Arya at all...the real Arya is still hiding out...

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Did she have needle when she approached the ship captain?

Actually, I hadn't even considered the Hound miracle. My irritation comes from bad storytelling, not miraculous survivals. The Hound surviving is good redemption storytelling. Arya surviving isn't.

I will be irritated if the Hound wins Cleganebowl. It is bad storytelling for a guy with a bad leg to best the zombie Mountain.

But, I don't see how we get Cleganebowl anyway. We are a long way from here to there, given how the episode went last night.

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Just thought of something - We all thought it strange that Arya went from hiding in the dark ready for battle to strolling around, calling attention to herself...maybe this is another argument for the theory that the Arya that was stabbed was not the real Arya at all...the real Arya is still hiding out...

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Yep. If you are hiding and trying to escape back to Westeros, you find someone at night in a bar and do it covertly. Not like "she" did it.

True. I hope (with no rational basis) the Brotherhood Without Banners remains a Robin Hood type organization & this was an attack by the very people they were claiming protection against.

Yes, I did read the thread. Sorry, I just remembered people complaining that it was poor writing.

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Just thought of something - We all thought it strange that Arya went from hiding in the dark ready for battle to strolling around, calling attention to herself...maybe this is another argument for the theory that the Arya that was stabbed was not the real Arya at all...the real Arya is still hiding out...

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Did she have needle when she approached the ship captain?

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Nope. no needle

On the Arya theories.....I just rewatched it.

Could be something to it. Not sure it is a faceless man though/Jaqen (too short).

Her odd gait could simply be trying to be obvious about being vulnerable - luring the attack.

As for the right handed....well ok but the way she walked up to the merchant/captain if she tossed it with her left it would go behind him. She had both hands behind her back and the table was to her right. If she was holding the bag behind her she would toss it with her right regardless. She is not fighting. People can toss things a few feet with either hand. But when she goes to the other side of him and grabs the coins she does that right handed too. Well....hard to say there. Could be something or nothing. She could fight left handed but be fairly adept either way. My "left handed" sister plays all sports right handed.

Now what I found odd on rewatching it was Arya's reaction to being stabbed. It did appear to be almost mocking surprise. And she wasn't so much worried about the stab wound she kinda looked at it like huh no big deal then looked at the face of the old woman turning into the waif....then she reacted like "oh i should react to being stabbed"....but still had enough to physically throw the waif off violently and run without impairment and throw herself over the bridge.

There is another theory going around that she was wearing something underneath to protect herself - she was certainly covered head to toe. So one theory is she got some fake blood/pouches from the acting company and wasn't really stabbed but made it look like she was and left a trail of blood to lure the waif again to somewhere.

It does seem unlikely she would just be casually strolling about and we don't know what she did after getting needle and hiding in the sewers or whatever last time. Maybe she had help (Jaqen?) to test the waif...and went to the acting company and got help and silver coins too from the actress she spared.

The only downside of this theory is...she could not have known for sure where she would be stabbed. A throat slice and she would have been killed for sure.

But anyway, I do agree something is up and not as it seems.

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Actually, I hadn't even considered the Hound miracle. My irritation comes from bad storytelling, not miraculous survivals. The Hound surviving is good redemption storytelling. Arya surviving isn't.

I will be irritated if the Hound wins Cleganebowl. It is bad storytelling for a guy with a bad leg to best the zombie Mountain.

But, I don't see how we get Cleganebowl anyway. We are a long way from here to there, given how the episode went last night.

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But you're fine passing off a spear through the chest to the Mountain? Re-watch that fight with Oberyn and tell me the Mountain wouldn't walk away from that with some serious wounds of his own. I know Quiburn used some fancy chemicals on him to keep him alive, but it's still unclear if he maintains the same agility, dexterity, and speed that he had before (I think Strength was obviously maintained).

I think there is a general theme of "you either survive or you die" when it comes to injuries, with Bran being the lone exception.

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No one was mad at her dad for arranging THAT marriage.

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Her dad didn't. Robert did.

Y'all are over-thinking the Arya stuff.

Take all the could be out of it and look at what makes sense from a storytelling perspective. Nobody cares about the waif outside of her effect on Arya, so a "test" of the waif involving Jaquen makes no sense. Having Arya in cahoots with Jaquen to murder the waif makes Arya look like a bad person and her arch so far has been she is unwilling to let go of the goodness in her to become an uncaring assassin. She's not going to be involved in some kind of twisted scheme for Jaquen to kill his student. This **** ain't star wars and she isn't a Sith in training.

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(1) Arya's been fighting the Waif blind.
(2) In Arya's last scene of Episode 6, you see Arya retrieve needle and retreat to a "lair" that is pitch black.
(3) Arya has been training on how to disappear and be no one, yet she brashly walks around Bravos doing everything possible to stand out. Wearing new clothes. Tossing around sacks of cash. Etc.
(4) After Arya is stabbed, she walks through the main plaza, again making sure to be noticed by everyone. She's even leaving a blood trail.

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Conclusion:
Arya is trying to draw the Waif out with the intention of leading her to her pitch black lair so she could fight her with the advantage of having learned the Waif's moves while blind, and with the advantage of possessing a weapon the Waif doesn't know about.

This is the only reasonable conclusion. Otherwise, every single second is Bravos and with the faceless men is a complete waste. Martin might have done that in the book (ahem...Quentyn), but I don't see the showrunners doing that when they are working every second to tighten up the show.

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Seems plausible for sure.

Arya's last scene in Episode 6. Jump to the 5 min mark to get a glimpse at her pitch black ambush cave.

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No one was mad at her dad for arranging THAT marriage.

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Her dad didn't. Robert did.

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The point remains, Joffrey's reputation for being a POS didn't stop anyone from getting on board with the idea. Even after the fight by the river where Joffrey had Lady killed, Eddard was like "it's ok Sansa, you're going to be queen and you'll learn to love your new husband."

Arranged marriages are common and pretty unpredictable. She should be mad at Little Finger, but she should also be mad at her father for allowing her to get caught up in the Lannister's business in the first place. That doesn't mean Eddard/Little Finger weren't still attempting to look out for her.

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(1) Arya's been fighting the Waif blind.
(2) In Arya's last scene of Episode 6, you see Arya retrieve needle and retreat to a "lair" that is pitch black.
(3) Arya has been training on how to disappear and be no one, yet she brashly walks around Bravos doing everything possible to stand out. Wearing new clothes. Tossing around sacks of cash. Etc.
(4) After Arya is stabbed, she walks through the main plaza, again making sure to be noticed by everyone. She's even leaving a blood trail.

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Conclusion:
Arya is trying to draw the Waif out with the intention of leading her to her pitch black lair so she could fight her with the advantage of having learned the Waif's moves while blind, and with the advantage of possessing a weapon the Waif doesn't know about.

This is the only reasonable conclusion. Otherwise, every single second is Bravos and with the faceless men is a complete waste. Martin might have done that in the book (ahem...Quentyn), but I don't see the showrunners doing that when they are working every second to tighten up the show.

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This also still allows for the potential that she had armor on underneath, therefore, her survival would make a little more sense.

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(1) Arya's been fighting the Waif blind.
(2) In Arya's last scene of Episode 6, you see Arya retrieve needle and retreat to a "lair" that is pitch black.
(3) Arya has been training on how to disappear and be no one, yet she brashly walks around Bravos doing everything possible to stand out. Wearing new clothes. Tossing around sacks of cash. Etc.
(4) After Arya is stabbed, she walks through the main plaza, again making sure to be noticed by everyone. She's even leaving a blood trail.

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Conclusion:
Arya is trying to draw the Waif out with the intention of leading her to her pitch black lair so she could fight her with the advantage of having learned the Waif's moves while blind, and with the advantage of possessing a weapon the Waif doesn't know about.

This is the only reasonable conclusion. Otherwise, every single second is Bravos and with the faceless men is a complete waste. Martin might have done that in the book (ahem...Quentyn), but I don't see the showrunners doing that when they are working every second to tighten up the show.

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That's more plausible than some that have been kicked around. Still dont think that's what is going on, though.

Where would she get armor? How could she predict a torso stab and not a slit throat?

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Where would she get armor? How could she predict a torso stab and not a slit throat?

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Exactly. Too risky.

She has at a minimum been actually stabbed a few times. The first cut looked like a slash. The second two were quick stab wounds to the stomach. If she had armor the wait would have noticed.

Wandered over from the show only thread.
Question about Lyanna Mormont: She was Maege Mormont's daughter and Lord Commander Jeor Mormont's niece? Wouldn't she have a different last name if Maege and Jeor were brother and sister since presumably Maege she married someone of another house?

It could be a combination of both. Maybe she had arranged to be noticed with the thought that it would draw the waif out for a more typical, subtle attack. She was truly surprised when the attack was so brazen in the middle of the day and now she's scrambling to her den and hopes that she can draw in an ambush the waif in the dark.

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What if Arya went to the now exposed understudy actress and said "I can get you to Westoros"

Put her face on her, gave her the money, and told her about the captain.

Then watches as the Waif attacks her and waits for her to let her guard down, then pounces.

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I don't think fake Sansa would have the skills to get away after being stabbed

So the Waif wants Arya to suffer and after stabbing a few times in the gut, lets her escape and get to the water.

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It could be a combination of both. Maybe she had arranged to be noticed with the thought that it would draw the waif out for a more typical, subtle attack. She was truly surprised when the attack was so brazen in the middle of the day and now she's scrambling to her den and hopes that she can draw in an ambush the waif in the dark.

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This actually makes the most sense. I think there was a plan in place but she was caught off guard.

Lem was my immediate thought with the yellow cloak.

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So who was shown leaping off a roof to a street scene below (in the previews for next week)???? Could it be Jaqen coming to save Arya/and or kill the waif? The waif was also shown again with a bloody knife.

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It was the waif. I went back to make sure and it shows her face right before she jumps.