quote:Yeah, HighGarden may not have lost many people in that battle, but they certainly took SOME causalities. Not to mention even Ollena mentions that war is expensive because they have been keeping kings landing fed for so long. So their supply stores have to be hurting.
True, but I think Highgarden was only involved in the fighting at Kings Landing when they routed Stannis' forces. So from a numbers stand point I think they have the most.
But you are right, the Vale would be the hardest to conquer simply because of the Bloody Gates.
quote:dorne hates everybody. They did fight on the same side as Highgarden in Roberts rebellion. They both want to destroy the Lannisters
Except Dorne and Highgarden have a long history of hating each other and fighting numerous wars against each other.
quote:Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing some sustained success for the Starks, they have had a rough go of it throughout the entire show
Here is what I think (and hope) happens in the North:
Littlefinger takes Winterfell with the army of the Vale. Roose and Fat Walda die, Ramsay is taken prisoner.
Late in the season, Sansa returns to Winterfell, hopefully with Jon and an army of wildlings.
Sansa reveals the truth that LF killed Lady Arryn, LF is executed, and the Vale rallies around Sansa as rightful Wardeness (Queen?) of the North.
Sansa lets Theon kill Ramsay, then sends an army to the Twins to wipe out Walder Frey.
Thoughts? The Starks have been **** on for 5 years, it's about time things take a turn here.
quote:quote:pretty sure he survived the ambush that killed Ser Barristan
Isn't Grey Worm already dead?
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I don't think Sansa would rat out LF. I think she sees him as an ally, and I think LF actually cares for her, in a weird way. I'm curious to see how he reacts when he finds out what Sansa has been subjected to by her husband.
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I don't think Sansa would rat out LF. I think she sees him as an ally, and I think LF actually cares for her, in a weird way. I'm curious to see how he reacts when he finds out what Sansa has been subjected to by her husband.
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Do you really think he had no idea what was going to happen to her when he pushed her into marrying ramsay?
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Do you really think he had no idea what was going to happen to her when he pushed her into marrying ramsay?
Yes, I think he had no idea. This was supposed to be a standard political marriage. And no one outside of House Bolton had any clue about Roose's ba$tard, nor should they have.
He probably knew she'd be marrying a hard man, as was the Bolton reputation. But he no clue he was a sadistic psychopath.
quote:Well, I would say Varys is the most well informed person (recently) in Westeros.quote:quote:
Do you really think he had no idea what was going to happen to her when he pushed her into marrying ramsay?
Yes, I think he had no idea. This was supposed to be a standard political marriage. And no one outside of House Bolton had any clue about Roose's ba$tard, nor should they have.
He probably knew she'd be marrying a hard man, as was the Bolton reputation. But he no clue he was a sadistic psychopath.
We're talking about the cleverest, most well informed person in Westeros. Of course he knew.
Hope I'm not coming across as a know-it-all ****; I'm not trying to be. But this is not at all in line with Littlefinger's character.
quote:Wow...
Ghost needs to rip Olly's gut open and slowly eat his intestines while he watches ....
That is a traitor's death....
quote:I just think its a little naive to assume Littlefinger didn't know exactly what he was sending Sansa too. He probably hoped Roose Bolton would be able to keep him in line, which is maybe more along the lines of what some of you are trying to say.
In the show he admitted he had heard very little of Ramsay, which he admits is odd considering he knows quite a lot. That could have been a lie, but it seemed genuine.
I think that everyone, including Roose, hoped Ramsay would show some restraint since they so desperately need Sansa to help hold the north. Roose even discussed this issue somewhat in the first episode.
I do agree that LF probably would have done it anyway had he really known what would likely happen to her. He doesn't want her dead by any means, but a mistreated Sansa might be an even better motivator to the Knights of the Vale and those in the north still loyal to the Starks.
quote:Yeah... If that's what you want to call it.
Did Ramsey bang Sans. Don't recall.
quote:I think rape is the term you're looking for
Did Ramsey bang Sans. Don't recall.
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Did Ramsey bang Sans. Don't recall.
quote:quote:I just think its a little naive to assume Littlefinger didn't know exactly what he was sending Sansa too. He probably hoped Roose Bolton would be able to keep him in line, which is maybe more along the lines of what some of you are trying to say.
In the show he admitted he had heard very little of Ramsay, which he admits is odd considering he knows quite a lot. That could have been a lie, but it seemed genuine.
I think that everyone, including Roose, hoped Ramsay would show some restraint since they so desperately need Sansa to help hold the north. Roose even discussed this issue somewhat in the first episode.
I do agree that LF probably would have done it anyway had he really known what would likely happen to her. He doesn't want her dead by any means, but a mistreated Sansa might be an even better motivator to the Knights of the Vale and those in the north still loyal to the Starks.
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He flat out said he didn't know anything about him. Maybe he was lying, but I don't think so. I think it is a little silly to think LF knows everything about everyone.
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He flat out said he didn't know anything about him. Maybe he was lying, but I don't think so. I think it is a little silly to think LF knows everything about everyone.
Show Littlefinger < book Littlefinger
