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In reply to Flashdiaz • 3:39p, 2/10/17
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Flashdiaz said:
keep it all in perspective... at least Joel Schumacher isn't involved any more



http://www.darkhorizons.com/coolio-still-upset-over-losing-batman-role/

"Batman & Robin was the only Batman that didn't make money. I'm still sore about that a little bit, cause the only reason I did that part is because they promised me the villain part in the following Batman, which they didn't do, because Joel Schumacher they fired him. [] He was supposed to do the two next ones. He and I didn't get along that good anyway I mean he made a terrible Batman movie. But the next villain was supposed to be The Scarecrow. They didn't do it though. Maybe one day. I'm sure they won't come calling, though."


You know, Coolio was ALSO cut out of Daredevil.
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12:06a, 2/11/17
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And it's Matt Reeves. The Batman. Fk yes.
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In reply to Simplebay • 12:13a, 2/11/17
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Not confirmed yet, but officially "in talks." Meaning WB officially offered, and Reeves is interested, but nothing has been signed quite yet. If it happens, though, I'll be ecstatic.
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In reply to TCTTS • 12:16a, 2/11/17
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Thirded, would be all about that.

And wangus beat me to JL: Doom but it's actually a really interesting story. Several JL members are offended that Bats would do what he did, and he replies with something like "I'd expect you to have a contingency plan for me."
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12:43a, 2/11/17
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Other directors remain in the wings, including Ridley Scott and Don't Breathe director Fede Alvarez.

Would still take Reeves in a heartbeat, but the fact that Scott is even a possibility is very interesting...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batman-movie-director-matt-reeves-talks-ben-affleck-departs-as-helmer-972900
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In reply to fig96 • 7:31a, 2/11/17
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I think he.say that the contingency plan for Batman is the Justice League itself.
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7:50a, 2/11/17
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I'd never heard of Reeves until this thread. Are the Apes movies that good? They never interested me but I guess I should check them out eventually.
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8:17a, 2/11/17
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Yes they are good. So are the Cloverfield movies and Let Me In.
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In reply to rhutton125 • 10:37a, 2/11/17
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Reeves didn't direct the first one, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, but he directed the sequel, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, which is one of the best blockbusters I've seen in years. In opinion, it's about as close to perfect as a script for a movie like that can be, it's shot beautifully, and the action is pretty damn great. Word is War for the Planet of the Apes is even better, which Reeves directed as well. If not David Fincher or someone of that caliber, Reeves as about as good as you could hope for, given the situation The Batman is in. I'm honestly kind of shocked that they're (likely) going to land him. And I couldn't be more excited for this movie now. Honestly, I'm more excited now than if had Affleck directed.
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In reply to wangus12 • 11:32a, 2/11/17
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wangus12 said:
I think he.say that the contingency plan for Batman is the Justice League itself.
Havent seen it in a while so you're most likely correct
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4:38p, 2/11/17
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I guess this makes it official: It's Matt Reeves

Good choice, IMO.
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In reply to rhutton125 • 4:38p, 2/11/17
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Both of the new Planet of the Apes movies are great; perhaps the best "reboot" movies yet.

Landing Reeves would be great...and Batman is the strongest source material in the DC repertoire, so he'd have plenty to work with that still hasn't been touched in any cinematic Batman. Hopefully WB doesn't muck this one up!
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In reply to GiveEmHellBill • 5:17p, 2/11/17
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Hell. Yes.

Sounds like it's still shooting this year, too, but probably not until fall at the earliest. If so, a summer 2018 release is a long shot. Maybe they move Aquaman and aim for a November 2018 release instead? Maybe that November holiday spot becomes WB's new go-to date, with Justice League this November and The Batman next November? If so, Aquaman could probably be fast-tracked a bit and move up to late summer 2018. The more likely scenario, though, is they leave Aquaman where it is and maybe aim for March 2019 for The Batman. Too many variables to really guess, though. Just hoping we don't have to wait 'til Comic-Con in July to find out...
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In reply to TCTTS • 5:38p, 2/11/17
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TCTTS said:
Reeves as about as good as you could hope for, given the situation The Batman is in. I'm honestly kind of shocked that they're (likely) going to land him.


Despite DC being a bit of a mess, I have to think most directors are aware of what Batman did for Christopher Nolan's career and would love for to see what directing Batman can do for them.
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In reply to Aggie_Journalist • 5:47p, 2/11/17
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Agreed, but as I said before, both Burton and Nolan had free reign to do basically whatever they want, and both were attached to the projects from day one. Reeves, on the other hand, is coming into a situation where a script already exists, and is essentially playing in someone else's sandbox. I'm sure he'll be able to put his stamp on the project as much as he can, but it's not necessarily going to be his vision in the way that Batman was for Burton and Nolan. Not only is there already a script, but the actor, costume, sets, "toys," etc. have all basically been designed as well already. Point is, should the movie be a success, Reeves won't get quite the credit that Burton and Nolan did, simply because so much was already in place before he came aboard.
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9:00p, 2/11/17
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I enjoy Batfleck and look forward to this flick, but it will be tough to top the Batman movie I saw today.
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7:51p, 2/13/17
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Uh oh...

http://theplaylist.net/rumor-ben-affleck-wants-leave-batman-role-20170213/

Though, I don't know how a "reporter" (Campea) can use the phrase "make no mistake" and then also warn to take his reporting with a "grain of salt" in the same sentiment, but whatever. Still, I've honestly been surprised that Affleck has stuck around this long in the role, and it was always going to take a miracle to get him to stay past The Batman.

But if he's done now, WB might as well just pack it in. Scrap Aquaman while it's not too late, and let Justice League be the end of it. MAYBE go out on a Man of Steel sequel after that, since Superman is the one who kicked this whole thing off anyway, coming full circle in attempt to salvage what little WB can of this (so far) failed experiment, but that wouldn't be likely.

That said, I just can't see Affleck dropping out now, especially knowing he has to do weeks if not months of press for Justice League at the end of the year. That, and he sounded very committed to the role itself in that press release announcing he was stepping down as director just a couple weeks ago. So who knows. My guess is WB will pay him basically whatever he wants to stick around for the solo film, but then that'll be it. At this point, we're definitely not getting a new Batman trilogy or Justice League 2 out of Affleck.
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8:25p, 2/13/17
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8:34p, 2/13/17
this makes me so happy, even though I know there are many DC fans who will be disappointed.

but it is indicative of Hollywood, who thinks they can copy someone else and have the same success.

if DC had just been themselves and done their own thing, they would have likely had more success.

Scrap Flash. No one cares. There is a FANTASTIC show about this character already on.

No one literally gives a crap about Cyborg.

WW will be this year, so will Justice League. Do you Aquaman, 1 Batman, 1 more Superman, and then cut your losses.

And then throw all the money in the world at David Fincher to direct a Batman two-parter.
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In reply to SeattleAgJr • 8:43p, 2/13/17
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SeattleAgJr said:

Scrap Flash. No one cares. There is a FANTASTIC show about this character already on.

No one literally gives a crap about Cyborg.

WW will be this year, so will Justice League. Do you Aquaman, 1 Batman, 1 more Superman, and then cut your losses.
Even fewer people care about an Aquaman movie.
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8:46p, 2/13/17
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Does he talk to fish?
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8:56p, 2/13/17
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If Affleck wants out, why not set up Batman Beyond?
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9:01p, 2/13/17
I literally cannot believe how stupidly mismanaged WB has made all of this.

Marvel has only pushed back a movie once (that I can remember) and that was to put it in a better money making weekend.

WB has pushed back almost every single movie.

Marvel gives its directors freedom to take the story the direction they want to go (with some rules), with a focus on characters and storytelling.

WB takes final cut from its directors, with a focus on big moments and $$$.

Marvel has actors who absolutely LOVE being in their movies. Chris Evans talked about quitting acting and now he'll be Captain forever. RDJ said he was done with Ironman after IM3, then he was in Civil War AND Homecoming.

WB has actors looking to quit from their own self-titled solo film.
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In reply to GiveEmHellBill • 9:10p, 2/13/17
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SeattleAgJr said:

Scrap Flash. No one cares. There is a FANTASTIC show about this character already on.

No one literally gives a crap about Cyborg.

WW will be this year, so will Justice League. Do you Aquaman, 1 Batman, 1 more Superman, and then cut your losses.
Even fewer people care about an Aquaman movie.
yes, the character is and can be a joke, but at least it is something "new" - a water based superhero.
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In reply to Grimey • 9:27p, 2/13/17
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Grimey said:
Marvel gives its directors freedom to take the story the direction they want to go (with some rules)

Don't think that's really true with the exception of Whedon and Gunn, but obviously no one can argue with the model. And it doesn't seem like any of the directors other than Edgar Wright have an issue with it. Who wouldn't want to get on the Marvel team?
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9:28p, 2/13/17
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They should just say screw it and focus on an R rated wonder twins movie complete with the monkey.
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11:19p, 2/13/17
I guess this means no Booster Gold/Blue Beetle movie with Channing Tatum and Jonah Hill?
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In reply to toucan82 • 8:13a, 2/14/17
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I'd.....I'd be ok with Tatum playing Booster Gold
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In reply to SeattleAgJr • 8:28a, 2/14/17
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SeattleAgJr said:
this makes me so happy, even though I know there are many DC fans who will be disappointed.

but it is indicative of Hollywood, who thinks they can copy someone else and have the same success.

if DC had just been themselves and done their own thing, they would have likely had more success.

Scrap Flash. No one cares. There is a FANTASTIC show about this character already on.

No one literally gives a crap about Cyborg.

WW will be this year, so will Justice League. Do you Aquaman, 1 Batman, 1 more Superman, and then cut your losses.

And then throw all the money in the world at David Fincher to direct a Batman two-parter.
I am one who actually liked both Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. Certainly neither were great movies, not on the level of some of the best Marvel movies but I would say at the level of, say, Thor or Ant-Man. I never was a big comics reader growing up and was really only familiar with a handful of characters - Superman, Batman, Captain America, Wonder Woman ... but one that I was also familiar with to a certain extent was Darkseid.

I really like the idea of seeing Darkseid on the big screen, which if I am reading everything correct, it would appear that his appearance would come with the second JL movie. Now seeing all this talk about scrapping this entire series makes me think they're going to screw everyone out of seeing Darkseid on the big screen. That ticks me off.

But all of the blame for that, if it indeed plays out that way, lies with Warner Brothers. They clearly went about this thing the wrong way. They don't seem to trust their characters and they also don't have any patience to just build their universe the way Marvel did.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 9:13a, 2/14/17
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I'm not a big fan of the Thor films in general, but Ant-Man was fun and a really well told story. WAY more coherent than BvS and far better crafted.

You could maybe put Thor and MoS on the same general playing field, but BvS was a movie by committee and it was just bad.
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9:19a, 2/14/17
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Probably not the most encouraging way to look at it, but... better to have no Darkseid than a bad Darkseid, perhaps? I kind of feel like we won't get Death of Superman again, or Apocalypse in an X-Men movie, for a long long time, and it's a shame because they both could have been done better.

That said, I'm not totally convinced that this is happening yet, or that it would kill the DCEU. I think WB would just go, okay... "superhero movies still make lots of money, let's make some superhero movies" even if the whole thing is a mess.

I'm someone who loves a carefully thought-out plan, so I've been opposed to a lot of the reactionary DCEU moves for a while now. But as much as I'd like to see this copycat world burn, I don't really see it happening. At the end of the day, their last two films still made an average of $800 million apiece, and I think that would speak louder than any controversy, director departure or even lead star departure.
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In reply to nickstro66 • 9:35a, 2/14/17
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nickstro66 said:
If Affleck wants out, why not set up Batman Beyond?
I don't think you'd really want to set up Beyond without the actor for Bruce Wayne in place. He's a pretty big part of the story even though he's not Batman.

Though I'd especially love to see the first sequence in Beyond with Affleck as Bats.
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In reply to fig96 • 9:41a, 2/14/17
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fig96 said:
nickstro66 said:
If Affleck wants out, why not set up Batman Beyond?
I don't think you'd really want to set up Beyond without the actor for Bruce Wayne in place. He's a pretty big part of the story even though he's not Batman.

Though I'd especially love to see the first sequence in Beyond with Affleck as Bats.


If they're gonna do Beyond, they should have Keaton play Bruce.
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10:40a, 2/14/17
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**** if we are gonna do Beyond, get Kevin Conroy to play Bruce Wayne. He is in his 60's
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In reply to wangus12 • 10:51a, 2/14/17
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wangus12 said:
**** if we are gonna do Beyond, get Kevin Conroy to play Bruce Wayne. He is in his 60's
Brilliant.
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