He doesn't have to be AA in the show, just be re-born by fire.
He can fulfill the prophecies in the books.
He can fulfill the prophecies in the books.
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"Azor Ahai will be reborn amidst smoke and salt wielding the flaming sword Lightbringer to defend the world from R'hllor's nemesis, the Other"
quote:She needs to get glasses. Renly was clearly the flaming one.
Melisandre thinks that she saw Stannis in the flames
quote:Agreed. She does fit some of those criteria better up to this point. I think a lot of it just depends on what carries more weight in GRRM's world: actually fulfilling what the prophecies say (up to this point at least it would be Dany but who knows what will happen with Jon), whether AA and the prince that was promised are the same/different, the visions that Melisandre has, the dreams that each character has, if everything is literal (sword = sword), etc.
To this point, far and away the most likely candidate for Azor Ahai, is Daenarys. She fits all the requirements.
She awoke the dragons out of her petrified stone eggs, on the very night she spotted the comet for the first time. (GoT, pg. 804). That night, there was smoke from the funeral pyre and salt from Dany's tears. And she was 'reborn' in the sense that she emerged from the fire a stronger person--a leader whom the Dothraki would follow.
But how does Dany's story match up with Salladhor's? Well, one suggestion has been that her dragons are actually Lightbringer, because they can produce fire. This makes a great amount of sense. Like Azor Ahai, Dany tried three times to make her weapon--once while putting them on a brazier (GoT, pg. 593), once while coming out of her fevered nightmares (GoT, pg. 753-754), and finally succeeding on the third try at Drogo's pyre. Also, like Azor Ahai, Dany sacrificed her spouse to make her weapon, and drew the weapon out of a fire.
Other people merely think that Lightbringer is still a sword, and perhaps Dany will find it elsewhere, (maybe in Asshai or far east.)
But the fact remains that, of all the candidates, Dany is the only one who has woken dragons out of stone. Unless another character is going to accomplish the same thing, Dany seems like a safe bet to be Azor Ahai reborn.
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Would be interesting.
Sam killed a white walker with dragonglass. Jon killed a wight by burning him and maybe one with his sword.
But no one has seen what longclaw will do in the presence of WWs. We talking "Sting" here and orcs or are you talking about it ignites?
quote:I feel like he will stick with his own story. He did say fairly recently that he has had some new ideas that he may explore (while still sticking to the overall storyline) that would only be possible in the books. They wouldn't be possible in the show based on decisions that have already been made.
Lon the topic of the books, do you guys think the next 2 will follow the show? I'm wondering if GRRM is embracing the divergence and will continue the stories of the books without considering the show. Obviously, some of the big things will be the same but many of the characters are in totally different places. To make the books mesh with the show, he would have to retcon a lot of stuff and drop some story lines. I'm hoping he just says "Screw it" and end with the books and show being similar but nowhere near identical.
quote:You're kind of thinking about it in reverse.
Lon the topic of the books, do you guys think the next 2 will follow the show? I'm wondering if GRRM is embracing the divergence and will continue the stories of the books without considering the show. Obviously, some of the big things will be the same but many of the characters are in totally different places. To make the books mesh with the show, he would have to retcon a lot of stuff and drop some story lines. I'm hoping he just says "Screw it" and end with the books and show being similar but nowhere near identical.
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It has even been theorized that a dragon underneath Winterfell was awoken during the fall, that had been living in the warmth of the hot springs for hundreds of years.
^This theory comes from something seen from Summer's point of view on CoK, pg. 956
The smoke and ash clouded his eyes, and in the sky he saw a great winged snake whose roar was a river of flame. He bared his teeth, but then the snake was gone.
quote:Dammit all to seven hells! Now I've got to go rewrite 12 chapters, smart guy.
If Martin has said that Howland Reed has already shown up in the books, my guess it is Tom of Sevenstreams based on his conversation with Jamie after the fall of RIverrun in AFFC.
Now everyone comment below on how smart I am.
quote:"There will come a day after a long summer when the stars bleed and the cold breath of darkness falls heavy on the world. In this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. And that sword shall be Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes, and he who clasps it shall be Azor Ahai come again, and the darkness shall flee before him"
There's no way he's AA. I go back to Aemon talking about his sword burning but there being no heat.
Another hint that he may sacrifice Shireen, if he truly believes himself to be AA, he'll do it. AA killed his own wife, right?