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Also I think the "no jokes" rule in place at DC had another effect. When they do try to be witty, like when Lex says "don't pick a fight with this guy," it falls incredibly flat. Like a comic who had a lousy warmup act.
quote:But at least that's true to Batman's character. He's not nice, he's not likeable, he's a vigilante that people question and distrust.quote:So like Batman in TDK?
Watched the mini-clip on Conan last night. Is anyone rooting for Superman in this movie? He seems to come off like a real a-hole "I can protect the world, but not you Batman, because you're not doing it the right way."
quote:I feel like Zach Snyder is trying to do his best Nolan impression, but that he assumed that Nolan's Batfilms were popular because they were dark-and-gritty. But Nolan's films weren't over-the-top dark, they were just darker and more realistic than the campy superhero films of the day (Raimi's Spidermans & X-Men 2/3). The realism factor goes out the door because MOS & BvS are about an omnipotent alien, besides Iron Man has taken over the mantle of the most realistic superhero franchise.
But at least that's true to Batman's character. He's not nice, he's not likeable, he's a vigilante that people question and distrust.
I think people have it spot on that the tone of this film just seems off. Nolan's Batfilms were dark and moody and did really well and DC said "our superheroes have to be dark and moody!" without taking into account that his films were more crime dramas than superhero movies.
I'd love to see this be a great movie, but I'm just not feeling it. DC needs their Kevin Feige and they don't seem to have one, or at least haven't taken advantage of the talent they do have.
(Hint: call Paul Dini, Bruce Timm, and Scott Snyder.)
quote:It's insane that I am more excited for Legends of Tomorrow than a Justice League movie! 2016 is crazy!
I want this to be good because DC has some truly awesome characters. The CW has done an excellent job at bring Arrow and the Flash to life, but the cinematic universe just seems destined to fail.
quote:Not realistic. He could just summon his starfish powers and grow a new one.
The cartoon version in the animate Batman adventures did a great job with Aquaman. He was angry with the upper world, also had a missing arm from previous battle
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The cartoon version in the animate Batman adventures did a great job with Aquaman. He was angry with the upper world, also had a missing arm from previous battle
quote:Maybe he wouldn't have lost the arm if he didn't suck!!!
... also had a missing arm from previous battle
quote:Yes.
how the hell are they going to have a movie plot where all of the superfriends are needed? It's a monster who can go into outer space but also needs to be made to tell the truth but also lives underwater but also runs really fast but also is a computer but also is funding the mob in Gotham?
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also had a missing arm from previous battle
quote:The Avengers didn't have to introduce most of them in one film though.
The Avengers seemed pretty good at bringing it all together
quote:This is exactly DC's problem. Marvel's slow burn and taking their time with all the heros while slowly teasing the Avengers was perfect. It's exactly how you build a world. DC saw this, said 'OH SH**' and threw stuff together to compete. It's rushed. Movie's might be ok, but it's not the purposefulness that Marvel did.quote:The Avengers didn't have to introduce most of them in one film though.
The Avengers seemed pretty good at bringing it all together
It feels like DC is rushing this group together as they play catch up, and at this point I'm not sure that it's going to work.
quote:I still can't believe Marvel has pulled it off to the degree that they have. And everything we're hearing out the Russo's about Civil War and Infinity sounds to be continuing that vibe.quote:This is exactly DC's problem. Marvel's slow burn and taking their time with all the heros while slowly teasing the Avengers was perfect. It's exactly how you build a world. DC saw this, said 'OH SH**' and threw stuff together to compete. It's rushed. Movie's might be ok, but it's not the purposefulness that Marvel did.quote:The Avengers didn't have to introduce most of them in one film though.
The Avengers seemed pretty good at bringing it all together
It feels like DC is rushing this group together as they play catch up, and at this point I'm not sure that it's going to work.
and the movies just aren't as good.
quote:Disney/Marvel invested over the long term. DC was in a lose-lose scenario. They either do the same thing and take YEARS before Justice League, or rush into it in an attempt to compete. Marvel did an amazing job. Laying the foundation bit by bit was the right way to do it, imoquote:I still can't believe Marvel has pulled it off to the degree that they have. And everything we're hearing out the Russo's about Civil War and Infinity sounds to be continuing that vibe.quote:This is exactly DC's problem. Marvel's slow burn and taking their time with all the heros while slowly teasing the Avengers was perfect. It's exactly how you build a world. DC saw this, said 'OH SH**' and threw stuff together to compete. It's rushed. Movie's might be ok, but it's not the purposefulness that Marvel did.quote:The Avengers didn't have to introduce most of them in one film though.
The Avengers seemed pretty good at bringing it all together
It feels like DC is rushing this group together as they play catch up, and at this point I'm not sure that it's going to work.
and the movies just aren't as good.
Who would have ever thought this could be accomplished?
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Was there anything in Man of Steel that would hint at any other characters in the universe? What was cool about Iron Man was Shield in the background and of course the epicness of Nick Fury at the end. I still get chills thinking about watching that post credit scene for the first time in theaters. There was nothing in Man of Steel (to my knowledge) that gave me a glimmer of excitement.
Also, with Marvel movies, the rewatchability is insane. Even for the "bad" ones, they are still fun to rewatch. Man of Steel, I without fail, fall asleep towards the end.
quote:LexCorp was on a building too. Nothing to introduce any other characters though. Just small Easter eggs to hint at a larger universe.quote:
Was there anything in Man of Steel that would hint at any other characters in the universe? What was cool about Iron Man was Shield in the background and of course the epicness of Nick Fury at the end. I still get chills thinking about watching that post credit scene for the first time in theaters. There was nothing in Man of Steel (to my knowledge) that gave me a glimmer of excitement.
Also, with Marvel movies, the rewatchability is insane. Even for the "bad" ones, they are still fun to rewatch. Man of Steel, I without fail, fall asleep towards the end.
There was a Wayne Enterprises logo on a satellite in one scene and an empty cryopod in the Arctic kryptonian ship that suggested super girl might exist, but I think that's it.
