1. I hate Skyler and wish she would die. The fact that she got fat in season 3 and 4 make it much worse. What a b.

2. Why would Hector, a retired cartel capo who did time be left to a crappy shack in the desert or even a frickin nursing home? Dont they take care of the oldies in the cartel?

Skyler

My understanding is Gus kept Hector around to torture him

Can someone explain the hate for skylar to me? I've made it through most of season 3.

Skyler is awful.

She lies to Walt, spends his money and cheats on him, yet she has the audacity to consider Walt the reason the relationship won't work ( because where he gets the money)

Rolf - initially I didn't understand, either. I wanted to like her. Then I started to dislike her because she became aloof and didn't even seem to try.

Once you get further in the series, you will absolutely hate her. She turns more and more evil. You'll see.

When are the new episodes supposed to come out?

She does soon, don't worry.

She will be the complete downfall then we will all really hate her.

Skyler is awful.

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She lies to Walt, spends his money and cheats on him, yet she has the audacity to consider Walt the reason the relationship won't work ( because where he gets the money)

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What Walt should have said was, "well meth users are going to use meth anyway, so it might as well be me making the money."

Skyler is a mental and emotional weakling. I hate her image, facial expressions, even voice.

We're not supposed to like Skyler. She is a lying, hypocritical ***** to has close to zero redeeming qualities.

That said, Anna Gunn is a great actress considering the fact that she can make everyone hate her character so much. Well deserved Emmy nomination.

Since we're on the subject of BrBa, came across these on reddit, figured you might like these. Second one gave me goosebumps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiI3y15b4TA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yKxbLUkUgDQ

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She lies to Walt, spends his money and cheats on him, yet she has the audacity to consider Walt the reason the relationship won't work ( because where he gets the money)

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I don't like Skyler either, but this perspective seems like you jumped straight in with season 4 without taking into account the characters' moral development in the first three seasons.

For Walt to get to meth lord, he has to pass through long stretches of lying to his family and putting them in danger. You have to put that on his side of the moral ledger when weighing Skyler's conduct against his.

he lied to her for 2 full seasons, leaving her to imagine all kinds of things he was doing (cheating on her, using drugs, etc.). he made decisions that put their family in danger, not to mention highly illegal, and only after learning these lies, did she cheat on him and eventually become involved in the business.

she's no innocent but I think her behavior has always been at least somewhat understandable. walt's killed many people now, become a complete megalomaniac and put his family in immense danger, but somehow Skyler's the bad guy.

Can't stand her, but I have to agree with Doug. I understand how she was steadily driven to being a punt by a long stretch of shady, deceitful behavior on Walt's part.

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he lied to her for 2 full seasons, leaving her to imagine all kinds of things he was doing (cheating on her, using drugs, etc.). he made decisions that put their family in danger, not to mention highly illegal, and only after learning these lies, did she cheat on him and eventually become involved in the business.

she's no innocent but I think her behavior has always been at least somewhat understandable. walt's killed many people now, become a complete megalomaniac and put his family in immense danger, but somehow Skyler's the bad guy.

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Exactly. Sklyar put in a great effort for two seasons until she discovered Walt's lies and the fact that he was endangering her and Walt Jr. A series of lies for that extended period is enough to make the marriage irreparable. Where would you begin to try and sort things out? Is there any remaining trust to build on? To make matters worse, Walt forces himself and his endangering baggage onto his family when he was requested not to as part of his "I was an emasculated loser, but now I'm a man" character arc. Don't get me wrong. I still think that Walt is a very cool character, and I don't necessarily mind his weakness/vulnerability. Rather, I'm just pointing out that Walt does let his emasculation get the better of him and that he does respond in an unforgivably selfish and irresponsible manner. His decisions disqualify him from any right to be anyones' husband or father.

What she does as a response is counterproductive, and based on the other posts she embarks on a greater descent in the coming seasons (I'm not opposed to spoilers), but I don't see her as responsible in any way for the destruction of her marriage. The marriage was destroyed two-fold by the endangerment of the White family and the elaborate lies brought upon by Walt's weakness/tragic flaw.

So Skylar may yest fall out of my favor, but I definitely agree with the poster above that she did not destroy her marriage. Her marriage was over before she started to cheat. She simply treated the matter as it deserved to be treated. Prior to that, she was a good a wife as one could hope for.

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She lies to Walt, spends his money and cheats on him, yet she has the audacity to consider Walt the reason the relationship won't work ( because where he gets the money)

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I don't like Skyler either, but this perspective seems like you jumped straight in with season 4 without taking into account the characters' moral development in the first three seasons.

For Walt to get to meth lord, he has to pass through long stretches of lying to his family and putting them in danger. You have to put that on his side of the moral ledger when weighing Skyler's conduct against his.

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been watching from s1.

So a dying man does what is necessary to make sure she isn't saddled with a cripple and an infant and no money and he is the bad guy? If you have terminal cancer prison isn't a threat.

I guess her exit strategy was just to go after BMW boy after Walt died anyway.

Poor is better than killed by dealers. Grey Matter would have paid for his medical care and I'm sure would have done something to help the family financially after he died. Walt chose protecting his pride instead.

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and he is the bad guy?

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You misunderstand: you can't judge Skyler without having all the facts. Leaving out Walt's actions is losing some of the facts.


You misunderstand: Walt is the bad guy. He is breaking bad. (Doesn't mean others can't be bad too.)

i agree dr. ag. While i dont agree with her every move, she has reacted about how i would expect alot of wives w/kids would in that situation.

her sister (hanks wife) is a much more terrible person.

It seems that in a lot of TV shows, the character I want to die the most is a woman.

Breaking Bad: Skyler
Sons of Anarchy: Gemma
Boardwalk Empire: Margaret
Dexter: Debra
Game of Thrones: Cersei (she is the evil behind Joffrey)

Why do you hate women?

how can you forget janice soprano?

When the protagonist is a male, the tension at home has to come from the wifey. If the mother/father are united, there can be no tension from the kids.

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So a dying man does what is necessary to make sure she isn't saddled with a cripple and an infant and no money and he is the bad guy?

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Was this serious?

Why else would they have named the show Breaking Bad?

A dying man that commits murder multiple times.

kinda funny arguing who is the "good" one. There isn't anyone good in this show.

The DEA brother in law (mental block right now) is the only one with a good core, and his outward persona is a total jerk. He's probably the only character the audience likely dislikes from the very beginning. Everyone else starts out looking okay, then their true rotten core shows through. The B-I-L is almost the opposite.

I guess I'm leaving Walt Jr out of this discussion. He's a good kid.

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I guess I'm leaving Walt Jr out of this discussion. He's a good kid.

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Lots of people hate Walt Jr. He's a freeloading breakfast mooch. He drives with two feet and set up a dishonest fundraising site for his dad. Not only did he set up the site, but he used his gimpy-ness on local tv to pull at the heart string of the good people of ABQ. I hope dies slow...

Walt Jr also goes by the alias, Flynn, in certain circles, and everybody knows that only bad people use aliases.

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People dislike Hank?

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Did you see how he treated his wife while recovering?

Because they were got-damn MINERALS, Marie!

Jesus Christ, Marie...

Lets not forget she is the only person that was bad to begin with. The cleptomania.

How mind-fcck would it be if she is the only one who is left standing and she has been behind the scenes watching these amateurs.

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kinda funny arguing who is the "good" one. There isn't anyone good in this show.

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yeah, nobody is good, but it's amazing how more often than not, discussions about the show end up painting Skyler as the villain or deserving of hatred over any of the other characters.