Well, it really isn't a children's book at this point either. I was stunned to see little kids at our mid-night showing.

The first two movies were great for little kids...Goblet and Fire and-on? Not so much.

for pg-13 ... i know I have seen much worse.

of course there is much worse out there for pg-13... I was just referring to the movie being associated with children

Loved the movie. I too was just a little disappointed at some missing "pieces". Missed the Dudley good-bye. Wish they could have done this. Needed a better explanation of the mirror. Really miss giving the locket to Kreacher. That was a big deal to me. The biggest miss is the questioning and animpsity towards Dumbledore. Wish they would have had that. Maybe they still will; I hope so. But, all in all, I thought it was GREAT! Loved so much of how it was done. Really liked the feel of it. Cannot wait for the final movie.

I thought the meeting at privet drive was well done. Neat to see all of them there; the humor involved. Good stuff. Thought the seven harry's fight was fantastic. Could have used more of that to be honest with you.

Liked the Ministry bit. Thought they could have extended that and built the drama even more. Missed hearing and seeing Dean and Seamus in the woods as well. Would have been a neat quick addition.

Still I loved it. For me, you could make these movies 3 1/2 hours long, and I would sit there entranced. Good stuff; cannot wait to go see it again.

Agree, mslags97, about Dumbledore.

I feel like Half Blood Prince was Voldemort's Book, but the movie didn't capture that.

I feel like Deathly Hallows was Dumbledore's Book, but the movie once again didn't capture that.

I guess nobody else had problems with the high pitch sound

Another thing, isn't it amazing how few lines most of the cast had? A large portion of the cast basically play cameos . I know that is how it somewhat is in the book and they only have so much time, but just really stuck out to me in this one

Once again they rushed the important stuff and left out significant portions.

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As others mentioned;
Mirror
Locket to Kreacher (could have spent 30s making that whole explanation better and also about how Elves have "different" magic).

And once again Yates/writers spoiles a perfectly good moment with a terrible line. In the last movie it was a joke about snogging after Dumbeldore dies, in this one Harry says "I want to bury him, with out magic" after Doby dies...it was such a sad a moving scene and really required no lines. In the book Harry just asks for a shovel and the point is pretty clear why he's doing in manually instead of "with magic". I mean they leave out significant explanations of items/issues but then explain the simplest stuff with a dumb line.

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Overall it was well done, just a few disappointments.




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Where was the cloak? I felt that part was left out of the movie and a really vital in the last book.









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I was wondering the same thing. Seeing as it is one of the DH adn i thought that harry and hermione used it when they went to the graveyard, seems silly to leave that out.

I also wished they would have made a bigger point about Ron listening to the radio and Potter Watch. Also wish they would have made a bigger deal about how snatchers found them by saying Voldemort.















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Just very curious how they tie up a lot of the horcrux/hallows stuff in the final part 2.


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The bust of Ravenclaw with the diadem was never shown or discussed at Xenophilius Lovegoods house. As I recall from the book, it is this recalling of seeing the Ravenclaw bust and the discussion about the diadem at Lovegood's house that leads Harry to the conclusion that the lost diadem is the missing Horcrux and that it is somewhere at Hogwarts.

Also, in the book, Harry's obsession with the Hallows consumes him and overtakes his search for Horcruxes. He finally gets back on track with the horcruxes when he sees Voldemort take what he thinks is the elder wand from Dumbledore's tomb. None of this obsession is really featured in the movie and as a previous poster said, the cloak isn't even mentioned.

Overall, its been really disappointing to see how the Horcrux discovery and the revealing of those has been handled in Part 6 and now Part 7A and the conflict between "hallows vs horcruxes". They've just left out a lot of information.

Part 2 of Deathly Hallows will have to start with the planning at Shell Cottage with Griphook to find the Hufflepuff cup at Gringotts and to this point, I have to assume that the audience will be totally in the dark on how Harry and crew know that the cup is a Horcrux; let alone the diadem and the snake.










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How long do we need to keep putting spoilers in the messages?

The biggest problem this movie had was the lack of information provided in the previous movies...which irritates me even more. I got the sense that a few extra scenes throughout the movie would have made a big difference to my enjoyment of the film. Don't get me wrong, I think it's one of the best they've made, but I think these would have knocked it out of the park...


-First and forement, a flash-back that explained the mirror.
-Harry having some sort of emotional reaction to seeing the eyes in the mirror. I couldn't tell that Harry even noticed them the first time around.
-Hagrid leaping off the motorcycle and onto the death eater would have been awesome.
-Harry telling ANYONE about the gold sparks that shot out of his wand.
-Harry telling the minister of magic where to shove it during their meeting at the Weasly's.
-A little more face time with Kreacher. Would have been nice to see him turn from a grouch to a helpful house elf.
-Harry calling Lupin a coward.
-Ron running into his father at the ministry of magic would have been priceless.
-Harry taking Mad Eye's Eye off Umbridges door.
-JUST MORE MINISTRY OF MAGIC SCENES PEROID. Just didn't seem long enough.
-Death Eaters hanging outside of Siruis's house, but not able to figure out where it was...never really got a sense that they were ocnstantly being followed.
-Ron telling Harry and Hermione not to say Voldemort after he got injured.
-Ron explaining to H&H after he returns that saying Voldemort really DOES cause death eaters to appear.
-Not sure how I would have handled Dobby's death. I think the "I want to bury him line" just came a few seconds too early or something.
-Voldemort simply found the elder wand too quickly. There needs to be competing Hallows vs Horcrux interests in the third book and I'm not seeing how that's suppose to happen when 1 of them is already out of reach.

Uh oh. Texags is in for a world of hurt now

My wife and I went to see the show this afternoon. I don't know if I was in a funk or something but the show seemed long and boring. I have enjoyed all the other shows but this one just seemed an interminable trek through the wilderness with a few battles thrown in for good measure.

I guess I'll just chalk it up to old age and cynicism, or maybe just too complex for an old guy!

valleyrat, that's kind of how the final book was. The first half of the book or so was kind of boring. The action picked up in the second half.

Saw the movie last night and really enjoyed it. I reread the seventh book long enough ago to forget a lot of the small details, but not too long to forgot a lot of the twists. Some of my favorite parts where how the Ministry of Magic looked and the animation of the Three Brothers story - fantastic!

I didn't mind most of the stuff that was left out though, because I think numerous flashbacks would have interefered with the flow. As far as the mirror issue goes, I think we'll learn everything we need to in the second half, when we meet Aberforth.

I also didn't think the first half was too slow. Considering how this part of the book read, it seemed like they got a lot of action in.

Really enjoyed it.

I think the movie should have included the goodbye scene between Dudley and Harry and also should have included a scene showing Pettigrew killing himself.

Are spoiler alerts entirely necessary?

Chances are if you plan on seeing the movie you have already read the book and know 95% of the mechanics of the movie.

Or if you are in the slim margin of people who only saw the movies and never read the books, if you cared so much about this thematic abortion that you come onto TAs and read about the film prior to seeing it, how have you not had the ending spoiled already?

Granted there is still one more film before the dramatic twist no one saw coming, but seriously. Its like giving spoiler alerts for LOTRs or Passion of the Christ.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i don't like spoiler alerts whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i shouldn't read threads and ***** about them whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The Dudley scene would work if they had ever really focused on that connection. They didn't though so it wouldnt have really mattered. I was far more pleased and emotional watching Hermione wiping her her parents memories. That was a great addition.

I do agree on wormtail. That becomes his time of redemption and the just passed over it.

I'm re-reading DH now after seeing the movie last week.

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- Snape tipped off the Death Eaters to the real time they were moving Harry - How did he know?

- Snape is with the Death Eaters chasing the 7 Harrys out of Privet Place. He used Sectumsempra on George. He sat there while V murdered the Muggle Studies teacher and let the Carrows do their thing at Hogwarts. So....while I get that he was acting as a double agent for Dumbledore due to his love for Lily, he was still a pretty bad guy. Seems odd that Harry names his son for him later.

I know I haven't gotten to the redemption explanation yet, but still....


All in all, I really enjoyed the movie. Cannot wait for the escape from Gringotts and the battle at Hogwarts.

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I actually can't remember the answer to this one. I feel that either he gets the answer from Mundungus somehow (reading his mind) or Dumbledore helps tip him off (portrait) -- although I don't think he was headmaster yet at this point.

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He didn't mean to use Sectumsempra on George. He cast it and misfire and hit by accident. He let the Carrows do their thing but he was there to make sure it didn't go too far. Probably couldn't avoid the muggle studies death.

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I believe it was Hagrid that spilled it to "someone in a bar" as Hagrid tended to do throughout the entire series. It's discovered by Harry who decides to let it go so as not to cause problems for Hagrid.

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I believe he was using sectumsempra to keep another death eater from using avada kadevra on George and Lupin.

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Had to or it would have broken his cover. But in the movie, you can clearly see the struggle in his eyes. Just goes to show what a phenomenal actor Alan Rickman is.

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and let the Carrows do their thing at Hogwarts.

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He took over as headmaster of Hogwarts to protect the students from the Carrows. It could have been a lot worse.



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Thanks, I knew I hadn't gotten that far in the book yet and it was bugging me.

That scene at the Malfoys with the Muggle Studies teacher was really tense and very much like I pictured it in the book.

I too was a little sad that you didn't get to see Duddley's concern for Harry and their hand shake. Though Hermione sadly wiping her parents' memories was very poignant.

Alan Rickman is a phenomenal actor

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Snape uses the Imperius curse on Mundangus to get him to think of the plan. Snape does not let Voldemort know that there would be multiple Harry Potters.

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Snape is with the Death Eaters chasing the 7 Harrys out of Privet Place. He used Sectumsempra on George. He sat there while V murdered the Muggle Studies teacher and let the Carrows do their thing at Hogwarts. So....while I get that he was acting as a double agent for Dumbledore due to his love for Lily, he was still a pretty bad guy. Seems odd that Harry names his son for him later.

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He hurts George on accident. He was trying to hit another Death Eater and mistakenly hit him.

There wasn't much he could do for the Muggle Studies teacher at that point.

If you remember, he would send the "bad" kids out to do "hard time" with Hagrid. He did what he could to shelter the kids, without drawing attention to himself.

Remember he also sent the sword to Harry and did what he could to protect the students.

agmatt06 is exactly right. Once the book is finished you will realize why Harry named his kid after Snape.

Saw this last night in IMAX. Story and gripes aside, this is probably the most beautifully shot movie I've seen all year. Better than both Inception and The Social Network in terms of cinematography.

HNIC.. i am not sure i would go that far, but there are some great scenes in it.

Visually this was great but it was one of my least favorite movies because there just didn't seem to be a whole lot happening. This is understandable because that is how the book went but outside of a couple emotional scenes I was a little bored by this one.

In the book, when Harry sees Snape's memories in the Pensieve, it is revealed that Dumbledore tells Snape to reveal the night of the movement of Harry to Voldemort so as to maintain his trust/confidence. But also to Confund Mundungus and suggest the 7 Potters plan, which he doesn't reveal to Voldemort.

And as others have said, Harry sees in the pensieve Snape's curse misfire and hit George by mistake.

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I just feel like it left out little things that could have much it so much better. I feel like you needed to read the book to catch everything or else you'd be like why did that happen or how did that happen.

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As someone who's seen the films but hasn't read the books I totally agree with this. I enjoyed it but I felt the same way I have about several of the other films, that as I haven't read the books I'm not privvy to certain information that everyone else already knows, i.e. look, there's a wedding between two people we know nothing about, one of whom appears to be a Weasley. I really had no idea why a horcrux was so important even though this was understood by everyone else. We haven't all read the books and seen the films multiple times.

I really did like the film, decently acted and some fantastic visual effects work, just a bit tough to follow at times.

The animation of the Three Brothers story was great

One thing I wish is that they had incorporated the invisibility cloak just a little more into the movie. At least one time. I think it's important in the movie to draw a parallel to the Three Brothers story and the cloak so that people who aren't avid readers can make the connection that Harry does already have one of the three Hallows.

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Forgot to mention that, that segment was just stunning work. Absolutely beautiful.

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One thing I wish is that they had incorporated the invisibility cloak just a little more into the movie. At least one time. I think it's important in the movie to draw a parallel to the Three Brothers story and the cloak so that people who aren't avid readers can make the connection that Harry does already have one of the three Hallows

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The cloak has been used since the first movie: The cloak was used in movie #1 in the library scene and also when he sees snape confronting professor Quirrell. And most recently in the Half blood Prince when Malfoy finds Harry spying on him in the train. And several times in between.. the only time I can remember them using it in the last book (during the first half at least) was when they moved from camp site to camp site (before they put up the enchantments).

Point is that you don't have to be an avid reader but if you are going to watch a sequel... you can't expect to have everything rehashed for you.



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They'll probably explain the relationship b/t Harry' cloak and the hallows in the 2nd part. (Fingers crossed.)