Dear TexAgs Agronomist, what is wrong with my

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AggieDruggist89
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plant?





CrawlingNo5
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it has a disease.. spray some round-up on it and the disease will be gone.
AggieDruggist89
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so will my plant..but I kinda like to keep the plant alive..
CrawlingNo5
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have your cake and eat it too.. fine
The Lost
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death~
AggieDruggist89
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I always eat the cake.
Emotional Support Cobra
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looks like fungus. do a search for B1-83 because he gives some good advice for treating this in several threads.




Agronomist, what is eating my pineapple sage?

AggieDruggist89
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ttt
Third Aggie
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Yup. Just hold out for B-1 '83. If he can't help, look up a prof in horticulture and they'll either help you or refer ou.
Yossarian
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Looks like Ron Mexico got ahold of it.
AggieDruggist89
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I'll ttt till B-1 83 responds..
HHAG
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The palm has some type of leaf spot, probably a Helminthosporium type. To control it, prune off leaves where the spots have started to coalesce and dispose of them away from this and any other palm. Then go to your local garden supply store and get a chlorthalonil based fungicide. read the directions and spray the palm on weekly intervals and it should recover nicely.

The sage appears to be getting eaten by slugs. If you can get some metaldehyde or methiocarb based baits, they should help. Sprinkle them around the base of the plant in the late afternoon and they should gradually disappear.

You could put out bowls of beer, but it won't bring in enough slugs and you will waste beer.
Emotional Support Cobra
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with my luck, the slugs would drink the beer and get the munchies and have at it all over again.

Burdizzo found Cabbage loopers (caterpillae) on our tomatoes. it wouldn't be the same caterpillar, would it? slugs more probable?
AggieDruggist89
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Thanks LyonAg!
HHAG
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Generally, you will see the loopers and their frass on the plants. When you get these types of mystery holes, slugs are a likely suspect.

They are sneaky little buggers.
AggieDruggist89
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Can I use "organic" Fungicide recommended by Mr. Organic Howard Garrett? He recommends Baking Soda mixed with Horticultural Oil(<---what is it?)

I'm going organic... just put down 5 bags of Texas TEE.. stuff stinks!

Thanks!
B-1 83
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"Ask the Agronomist" is a little stumped on the leaf spot. Lyon Ag has the best course of action. Prune the affected parts and dispose of them away from the plants. Some whole ground (watered in) may help keep it at bay, organically. The mystery holes in the plants are probably snails/slugs. B-1 83 Wife (aka Teacher Wife 82) has problems with them from time to time in the 4-o'clocks. A good bug and snail bait containing Sevin will get them in a hurry or use one of the more enviromentally friendly copper products.
B-1 83
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Howard Garrets suggestion will work, but leaf spots are notoriously tough. Some good dry weather and warm tempratures wilol help. Try to keep any sprinkler water off the leaves. The Texas T doesn't smell that bad - sort of like cottonseed. For a real stinker of a fertilizer, try the Milorganite.
Farmer Jack
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Coastal Bermudagrass will get the brown spots like the one you showed.

When this happens with forage type grasses it is an indication of potassium deficiency. I'm not saying that this is what's wrong, just another possible explanation.

I'm sure B-1 83 will know more.
AggieDruggist89
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quote:
The Texas T doesn't smell that bad


Yes it does.. only an agronomist will think it doesn't!
Emotional Support Cobra
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Ok, slugacide it is...I was chatting with my mom about this because similar holes are appearing in my Lantana leaves but not as badly. She told me that caterpillars will strip Lantana (but then they turn into a butterfly! awww!). typical mom.

B-1 83
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I get tickled at callers in to radio garden shows who complain that catapillars are eating up thier butterfly gardens.
Emotional Support Cobra
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Wouldn't that be genocide? or cannibalism?




Yeah, kind of like people who call here asking, "what does cotton cost?" Kills me every time.
agz win
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Leaf spot would be like the villain that attackes Red tip photenias. LyanAg's remedy seems reasonable. The plant looks so sickly, though, it may be easier just to replace it.
HHAG
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Horticultural oil is a light petroleum oil that is used for insect (quite good on scale insects) and occasionally disease control. I've never used a mixture of baking soda and oil (kinda hard to mix, IMHO), but you could try. Be careful on the palm as the fronds can burn with oils.

B-1 83
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My bad - I missed the "oil" part. I've heard Howard Garrett and Bob Webster recommend baking soda and WATER (1 tsp/gallon) for powdery mildew and other leaf diseases, but not the oil.
HHAG
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The leaf spot on Photinias is a different species of fungus, but the remedy is about the same.

One thing that I did forget was that on most palms, fertilization is often an effective method of disease control. They are generally pretty slow growers, but if you really push the nitrogen to them, they more or less outgrow the disease.
AggieDruggist89
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What would be the best way to provide the Nitrogen? I'm about to get a bunch of Aminosyn (amino acid solution 8.5% we use to mix Total Parenteral nutrition for patients who has to receive nutrition intravenously) solution which is about to expire...


Once in a while, we get bags and bottles of mixed TPN which is loaded with AminoAcid, Sugar, Lipid, and electrolytes. The bags with Lipid we throw away but without the lipid..we use em as a fertilizer.. does wonders.

We charge $500 to $1000 per bag of TPN..one expensive fertilizer.
AggieDruggist89
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The diseased leaves (older leaves only) have been clipped by Mrs. AD. I will spray baking soda mix.
HHAG
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Amino acids are pretty low N assay by weight, so it would take a tank truck to get sufficient Nitrogen to the plant.

Although you seem to lean to the organic side of things, I would suggest getting a high assay 3:1:2 granular fertilizer in order to get the right amount without purchasing numerous bags and bottles of lower assay organic stuff. The plant can't tell the difference where the N comes from.
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