Fear about jury duty

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permabull
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toucan82 said:

Just vote "not guilty"

Problem solved


But why was the defendant arrested if he wasn't guilty?
toucan82
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permabull said:

toucan82 said:

Just vote "not guilty"

Problem solved


But why was the defendant arrested if he wasn't guilty?


Deep state persecution
Burdizzo
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I am over 50 amd never had to actually show up to jury duty. I got 3 or 4 summons when I was on college and always sent it back saying I was a exempt because I was a full-time student. When I got into the real world, every summons i got resulted in a cancelled docket.

The closest I have come was when I subpoenaed for a hit-and-run I witnessed. I had to sit on muni-court for the case to come up only to have the defendant plead no contest. My guess is they wanted to see if any witnesses showed up. As soon as he plead, the judge released me. Thanks for wasting three hours of my time, jackass.
Trolley Problems
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It's super rare.

That said, it did just happen in a Harris County murder trial back in March. I was in voir dire and was a very low juror number. Defense elected to use one of their strikes on me. So I didn't get to serve on the jury, but I kept up with the case via the public filings.

On Day 3 of the trial, the defendant was caught on a jailhouse phone talking about a specific juror in a manner that could be considered threatening or jury tampering. Judge dismissed said juror, filled their seat with an alternate, and sealed all court records that named jurors and alternates.

They convicted him and sentenced him to 55 years. Case is currently on appeal.
BartInLA
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I really can't, err won't add to the discussion. My cousin was selected for a mob trial in Chicago in 2021 and went missing so I don't know what to think.
TRD-Ferguson
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Trouble with those of us in the 60-80 crowd is that we fall asleep easily or have to take multiple bathroom breaks throughout the day.
Complete Idiot
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I saw this post Monday night and it reminded me I missed a jury summons for Friday the 23rd.

I am 52 and was offended I had never been summoned before. Does the justice system think I am not worthy? Have I been put on a watchlist of some kind? It's very hurtful.

I received a summons and was so excited. Maybe the only person to get excited about a jury duty summons, but I finally felt seen and have a curiosity about the process and a competitiveness to get selected. It was going to be fun.

And then I forgot, which justifies why society deemed me unsummonsable in the first place. I have failed.
Burdizzo
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Complete Idiot said:

I saw this post Monday night and it reminded me I missed a jury summons for Friday the 23rd.

I am 52 and was offended I had never been summoned before. Does the justice system think I am not worthy? Have I been put on a watchlist of some kind? It's very hurtful.

I received a summons and was so excited. Maybe the only person to get excited about a jury duty summons, but I finally felt seen and have a curiosity about the process and a competitiveness to get selected. It was going to be fun.

And then I forgot, which justifies why society deemed me unsummonsable in the first place. I have failed.



In the eyes of the law, as it is also on Texags, your opinion doesn't matter.
TecRecAg
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Easy way to get out. Walk in and ask where the white people sit.
PlanoAg98
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If I wear my Trump shirt that should disqualify me with at least 1 of the lawyers.
Aggie Dad 26
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Until they pay a fair salary, I'll never do it. I'm in my 40s and still havent
Aggie Dad 26
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TecRecAg said:

Easy way to get out. Walk in and ask where the white people sit.


This
Aggie Dad 26
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TecRecAg said:

Easy way to get out. Walk in and ask where the white people sit.


Even easier by just responding that it interferes with your Klan meeting.
PlanoAg98
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I just got dismissed via email for my jury duty scheduled for tomorrow. The system works!
Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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Jury duty is great. Free food, free air conditioning, getting into other people's business and judging them with the force of law.
BostonAg74
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infinity ag said:

Jury Duty is dumb. Abrogate it. WTF are those highly paid judges for? They pay me peanuts to waste an entire day sitting around.

I think they should hire retired people who have time and would love to do this kind of thing. Pick people from ages 60-80. They could use the extra cash, better than doing greeter work at Walmart.
The bathroom breaks alone would double the length of time for a trial. Not to mention the jurors constantly whispering "What'd he say?" to each other.
IIIHorn
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If you are summoned and do not want to be chosen, wear a bolo tie.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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It's funny we all know the jury of our peers is pretty much full exclusively of ******s and no one is demanding we change the system.
one safe place
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

Until they pay a fair salary, I'll never do it. I'm in my 40s and still havent
I owned my own small business, and my income was based on my time and knowledge. If I was not in the office, I made no money. I could not afford to get tied up in a lengthy trial.

The last two times I appeared for jury duty, both judges were very lenient. They asked if serving on a jury would be a burden to anyone. In one instance, 8 or so people raised their hand, in the other 12 or so did. Most of them said they had no transportation to the courthouse. All were black or Hispanic, and all got excused.

The judges asked if anyone didn't think they could be fair and some replied that they didn't think they could based on the nature of the crime committed. If the case involved robbery, they would say someone in their family, or they themselves, had been a robbery victim and they didn't think they could be fair. All in this group of people were excused as well.

In the last one, I was thinking the judge better quit asking the jury pool questions about ways not to serve or there were not going to be enough left to make up the jury.

Aggie Dad 26
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one safe place said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

Until they pay a fair salary, I'll never do it. I'm in my 40s and still havent
I owned my own small business, and my income was based on my time and knowledge. If I was not in the office, I made no money. I could not afford to get tied up in a lengthy trial.

The last two times I appeared for jury duty, both judges were very lenient. They asked if serving on a jury would be a burden to anyone. In one instance, 8 or so people raised their hand, in the other 12 or so did. Most of them said they had no transportation to the courthouse. All were black or Hispanic, and all got excused.

The judges asked if anyone didn't think they could be fair and some replied that they didn't think they could based on the nature of the crime committed. If the case involved robbery, they would say someone in their family, or they themselves, had been a robbery victim and they didn't think they could be fair. All in this group of people were excused as well.

In the last one, I was thinking the judge better quit asking the jury pool questions about ways not to serve or there were not going to be enough left to make up the jury.




I've never made it to the court house. I essentially check 2 or 3 boxes to automatically disqualify myself.
Counterpoint
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I was sitting in the #1 seat during voir dire for a murder case. The defendant and his lawyer were sitting at a table directly facing me and just a few feet away from me. So close that every time they asked a potential juror a question, I could see him circling or crossing off their name (and I could read the juror numbers on his list). It was really unnerving, and at that time I didn't even know it was a murder case. He was later found guilty, but I wasn't picked for the jury.

000000000000
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I served on a jury in Mt Pleasant, TX. The defendant was charged with vandalizing a car. One juror voted not guilty after a lengthy deliberation so we ended up with a hung jury. The mother of the defendant confronted me in a local restaurant a week or so later and berated me for voting her baby guilty (he was in his late twenties by the way). I didn't know any of the defandant's family or friends. The hold out on the jury was a friend of the defendant's family as I learned later. I don't know how the jury vote was disclosed but it was probably provided by the hold out juror
Aggie Dad 26
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000000000000 said:

I served on a jury in Mt Pleasant, TX. The defendant was charged with vandalizing a car. One juror voted not guilty after a lengthy deliberation so we ended up with a hung jury. The mother of the defendant confronted me in a local restaurant a week or so later and berated me for voting her baby guilty (he was in his late twenties by the way). I didn't know any of the defandant's family or friends. The hold out on the jury was a friend of the defendant's family as I learned later. I don't know how the jury vote was disclosed but it was probably provided by the hold out juror


Yeah, yall have fun with that
jetch17
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I'll deal with it when the guy we gave 60 years to gets out … he'll be 80, I'll probably be dead.

If he gets out earlier, brang it.
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