He got 9 years! Damn.
Bart Griner
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Last: 3 yr ago by jonb02
What happened to being a rule follower?
She knew the rules from the start.
She knew the rules from the start.
You know the rules, and so do I
I love original comedy. You made fun of a person because their appearance doesn't meet conventional expectations. Hilarious. Surprised no one on TexAgs has thought of this.
Griner just pawn in game of life.[/Blazing Saddles]
I expect they'll wind up doing a prisoner exchange of some sort. I definitely don't like the idea of Griner, or any other American, rotting in a Russian prison. If you've got to travel to Russia as an American, though, be VERY careful with your luggage, and also, don't go to Russia.
I expect they'll wind up doing a prisoner exchange of some sort. I definitely don't like the idea of Griner, or any other American, rotting in a Russian prison. If you've got to travel to Russia as an American, though, be VERY careful with your luggage, and also, don't go to Russia.
Lake wasn't making fun of his appearance. It was more chuckling at the fact that he thought bringing thc into Russia would be ok because it's legal in Connecticut.
Yeah, dont care she's an idiot, need to bring her home (and several journalists who have been rotting in prison longer than she) now.
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If only she played for A&M maybe you'd feel differently...similar circumstances for one of our own and you called for an investigation...into the police.
If only she played for A&M maybe you'd feel differently...similar circumstances for one of our own and you called for an investigation...into the police.
That's terrible. Hope the WNBA pull all players from the Russian leagues.
Stupid games. Stupid prizes. Hopefully others will learn from her mistake.
Let's go, Brandon!
Her mistake being that she was in russia when the US decided to sanction russia and is being exploited as a political prop? Come on. This is far beyond her and anything she did.NoahAg said:
Stupid games. Stupid prizes. Hopefully others will learn from her mistake.
I think it's fair to say that if she indeed brought the THC or whatever into Russia, she made a big mistake doing so. Doesn't mean that the arrest or sentence were justified or that she's not being used as a political prop by the barely-disguised Soviets.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:Her mistake being that she was in russia when the US decided to sanction russia and is being exploited as a political prop? Come on.NoahAg said:
Stupid games. Stupid prizes. Hopefully others will learn from her mistake.
Definitely not a good idea, but she's more of a hostage than a person paying for a crime.Claude! said:I think it's fair to say that if she indeed brought the THC or whatever into Russia, she made a big mistake doing so. Doesn't mean that the arrest or sentence were justified or that she's not being used as a political prop by the barely-disguised Soviets.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:Her mistake being that she was in russia when the US decided to sanction russia and is being exploited as a political prop? Come on.NoahAg said:
Stupid games. Stupid prizes. Hopefully others will learn from her mistake.
Don't go to other countries, break their laws, and complain that you're getting punished for breaking their laws.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:Her mistake being that she was in russia when the US decided to sanction russia and is being exploited as a political prop? Come on. This is far beyond her and anything she did.NoahAg said:
Stupid games. Stupid prizes. Hopefully others will learn from her mistake.
I'm not about to steal anything in Saudi Arabia b/c I like having both my hands.
Let's go, Brandon!
She's not being punished for breaking a law. She's being held hostage by a rogue state. You know this.
Probably. Now explain Marc Fogel who got 14 years in Russia for a half ounce (also a prescription) - He's not on any special state department lists, unfortunately.Claude! said:I think it's fair to say that if she indeed brought the THC or whatever into Russia, she made a big mistake doing so. Doesn't mean that the arrest or sentence were justified or that she's not being used as a political prop by the barely-disguised Soviets.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:Her mistake being that she was in russia when the US decided to sanction russia and is being exploited as a political prop? Come on.NoahAg said:
Stupid games. Stupid prizes. Hopefully others will learn from her mistake.
Maybe Russia isn't the only country using Griner as a political prop?
If she didn't bring drugs into their country, would this be happening?
Quite possibly. This would have have been cleared up with a phone call at a different point in time.Jbob04 said:
If she didn't bring drugs into their country, would this be happening?
They aren't going to put an American in prison for no reason. If she wouldnt have had drugs on her, this wouldn't even be a story right now.
What planet do you live on? There's several american journalists being held in russian prisons.Jbob04 said:
They aren't going to put an American in prison for no reason. If she wouldnt have had drugs on her, this wouldn't even be a story right now.
Maybe. They shouldn't have gone to Russia? Don't put yourself in these situations, it's not that hard.
#1 I feel bad for her in the situation she's in.
#2 It showed poor judgement or a strong sense of entitlement to travel to Russia at all when she did, much less doing so in possession of drugs.
#2 It showed poor judgement or a strong sense of entitlement to travel to Russia at all when she did, much less doing so in possession of drugs.
No one should ever go to a place where bad things may happen to them. Really good point. So smart.Jbob04 said:
Maybe. They shouldn't have gone to Russia? Don't put yourself in these situations, it's not that hard.
Be careful what foreign countries you travel to and what their current relationship is with your home country.
I have the same concern for both. Griner gets the attention because she's a celebrity, no doubt, but frankly that's the way of the world. I'd like to see both of them (and probably a lot of other Americans held in Russian prisons) get out. If there's one bright spot to Griner's arrest, it's that it gives a little more visibility to the plights of Fogel and others.gotsand said:Probably. Now explain Marc Fogel who got 14 years in Russia for a half ounce (also a prescription) - He's not on any special state department lists, unfortunately.Claude! said:I think it's fair to say that if she indeed brought the THC or whatever into Russia, she made a big mistake doing so. Doesn't mean that the arrest or sentence were justified or that she's not being used as a political prop by the barely-disguised Soviets.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:Her mistake being that she was in russia when the US decided to sanction russia and is being exploited as a political prop? Come on.NoahAg said:
Stupid games. Stupid prizes. Hopefully others will learn from her mistake.
Maybe Russia isn't the only country using Griner as a political prop?
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
She's not being punished for breaking a law. She's being held hostage by a rogue state. You know this.
Amazing how several of the girls I've coached in high school, that have gone through college and are now playing overseas (including Russia) have not run afoul of this. Maybe it's because they are not dumb-asses.
you dont think we have eastern "journalists" at gitmo? nobody was going to accuse griner of being a spy.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:What planet do you live on? There's several american journalists being held in russian prisons.Jbob04 said:
They aren't going to put an American in prison for no reason. If she wouldnt have had drugs on her, this wouldn't even be a story right now.
That's what I've been saying this whole time.Quote:
I definitely don't like the idea of Griner, or any other American, rotting in a Russian prison
People be mad though.
A bunch of hardasses on here.
I think it's people saying basically the same thing, but talking past each other.Stat Monitor Repairman said:That's what I've been saying this whole time.Quote:
I definitely don't like the idea of Griner, or any other American, rotting in a Russian prison
People be mad though.
A bunch of hardasses on here.
1. Griner ****ed up by taking THC or whatever into Russia.
2. Griner (and similarly situated Americans) don't deserve long, politically-motivated prison sentences and shouldn't be used as political pawns.
problem she has is that she forgot the reality that once you leave the US, the foreign country you visit's law AND politics apply. Good idea to keep your nose squeaky clean.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
She's not being punished for breaking a law. She's being held hostage by a rogue state. You know this.
I think the point is Griner wouldn't have even had to bring THC into Russia for them to arrest her and hold her in prison. Maybe she did maybe she didn't, we'll probably never really know. Wasn't there a former Marine recently arrested for essentially nothing and held in Russian prison where he caught TB? We negotiated his release, but the details around his arrest were shaky at best.
Maybe the lesson here is don't go to Russia as a semi-celebrity.
Maybe the lesson here is don't go to Russia as a semi-celebrity.
Maybe no one knows who they are so there's no point in making a spectacle out of them?racerfink said:Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
She's not being punished for breaking a law. She's being held hostage by a rogue state. You know this.
Amazing how several of the girls I've coached in high school, that have gone through college and are now playing overseas (including Russia) have not run afoul of this. Maybe it's because they are not dumb-asses.
She* tried to renounce her citizenship. Let them have her. Play dumb games, win dumb prizes.
I certainly don't want to trade her* for a known arms dealer
I certainly don't want to trade her* for a known arms dealer
FJB
Agreed, though I'd say just don't go to Russia as an American.
Easier said than done when Griner was making $1 million over there...hard to turn that down.Claude! said:
Agreed, though I'd say just don't go to Russia as an American.
No one is questioning that it was idiotic of her to have drugs in her bag in a place like Russia, but the cheering and gleefulness I see from some (many of whom would identify as Christian) celebrating her situation is...disturbing.
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