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well, at least one of you is devoutly catholic
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Actually my brother and his wife lived together before they were married too.



Discrediting......

get drunk one night and dew her

your brother will thank you for it down the road

Tanya, jeez. I have always respected your "Devil's advocate" position but come on.

what?

Yes it is more than OK .. But it needs to be something that you keep to yourself from your brother. You don't want to lose him . He obviously loves her for some reason and you can hate her all you want but don't tell him.

i will vote for kerry before i eat tofu.

Law Aggie,

Taking hicks to an Itlaian restaurant, even a faux Italian restaurant like Olive Garden, is never a good idea.


Just remember, it could be worse. She could be a baby-making machine, and give you thousands of little versions of her.

looks like someone's not going over to tanya's for dinner

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or you could just stop being a condescending snob and make the relationship work.

But it's much better to mock someone who didn't grow up eating any Italian food

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Just sounded a bit overboard.

josie- they do seem to bicker a lot, but no more than anybody else.

brad- how have I been a bigot or self righteous? I merely stated that this woman is a complete 180 from everything my brother has ever stated he ever wanted and how he has changed in a manner that he is virtually unrecognizable (personality-wise) from the person he once was and how much it bothers me.

I could care less about religion(in fact my fiancee is Presbyterian) because I am not a particularly religous person. I suffer(or maybe indulge in) from a typical religious ambivalence often found in Irish-Catholics. I merely stated that my brother had very adamantly stated that he would never marry somebody who wasn't Catholic, and then in a John Kerry-like display magically flip-flops like he never held this conviction.

As for her profession, again I could care less. But I do expect one to show a bit of ambition and at least recognize that going to college can open doors.

Ok, I'm guessing she's from Onalaska...

She is from Soda, outside of Livingston.

Amyantim- I am always polite to her and her family. The only people who know are my fiancee and our friends to whom I vent.

Tanya- I don't care if you've never eaten Italian food in you life there are still freakin' Chef Boyardee commercials on TV. Its not like I ever made fun of her for eating squirrel at Thanksgiving.

And I have tried to build a relationship, but its kind of tough when they're always visiting her family to watch her nephews go "trick-or-treating" or watch some tee-ball game.

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Soda

Is she nice to you??

If you dont care about all these things, then why have you mentioned them to a serious degree as why you dislike her to begin with in your original post? Religion, beliefs, job, are not just random things you spoke of to begin with.

People can not help what they are born into.

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and then in a John Kerry-like display magically flip-flops like he never held this conviction.

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Again, it falls back on your brothers shoulders...not hers.

Phi- as I have previously stated:

I mentioned those things because they are so completely different than every single value or desire my brother expressed in his 22 years leading up to meeting this girl.

About the only qualities that she possesses that my brother claimed he was looking for is the fact that she is tall and slender.

And like I said before- I am angry with him, but he's blood and she isn't. Blood gets a little more latitude.


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is it okay that I don't really like my husband's family

Whatever your reasons, you don't have to like her. period. however, in order to keep the peace with your bro, you should fake it a little.

I'm curious as to why your brother decided to marry a retarded Daisy Duke.

Did she fake a pregnancy? Did he suffer from blunt force trauma to the head? Does she have pictures of him dressed as Cher? Sounds like something strange is afoot at the Circle K.

As for the Olive Garden fiasco, what a dumbass. I've never been to an Indian restaurant but I have enough savy not to make an ass of myself.

HAHA-- Retarded daisy duke... you made me laugh out loud at work..

This poor kid looks like he's in the crosshairs of Paw's shotgun.

PKP- man I have no clue. In the spring of 2002 I was living in DC and my little bro was doing his internship with KPMG here in Houston.

He was loving it. Doing the big-city bachelor thing, going out with tons of chicks. Then he goes back to Huntsville to finish up and its like he freaks out about graduating and not having a woman picked out, meets this girl in June and within weeks decides that he wants to marry her. He proposed in Nov/Dec of '02, they were married in July of '03 and got pregnant in Dec of 03.

Believe me, I have tried to like her and get to know her, but the more I get to know her and the more my brother changes for the worse the less I like her.

Another example: our sister turned 22 last month so our parents come down to Houston for dinner, cake & presents. My brother's wife was visiting her parents (suprise, suprise) and doing the hair for a bunch of HS chicks going to prom. So its a Friday night and our sister and a bunch of her friends, my fiancee and I are planning to hit the Village for a few beverages.

At first my brother was going to come along for a little bit. But then the wife calls and fun-loving, easy-going guy disappears and brow-beaten, no sac guy shows up. He come back in the room and says, "Guys, {insert her name} doesn't want me to go."

Keep in mind its not like she's sitting at home by herself. She is visiting family almost an hour and a half away.

He then proceeds to claim he can't afford to go. I say, "No problem, I'll buy you a couple drinks. Just come for a little while." He still refuses and starts going on about how he's so mature and "People your age don't go to bars." I remind him that I am only 27 and he's 24. I guess that means he is far more mature than many posters on this board who are out of college and still go out to bars.

He still refuses to come. I proceed to show that ass-hole how mature I am and drink myself into a nice buzz fueled by Guinness and Jameson, my fiancee drives us home.

Man that sucks...I would never tell my husband he couldn't go somewhere just as he would never tell me that either.

We were seperated for 6 months and I never once tried to tell him not to go out. I would laugh my ass off if someone said "my wife said I can't go" and she wasn't even in town.

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That is a bit old to go out drinking with a bunch of teenyboppers.

rolando - come off it man, it's never too old to go have some drinks with your little sis/bro/cousins. and he's freakin 27 for god's sake! i'm 26 and i'm faaaar from not going out for drinks at least once a week.

lawaggie - sorry to hear about your situation. you have every right to be concerned/peeved about it. unfortunately, sounds like there's not much you can do. good luck getting your real brother back.

Rolando- these people are all over 21, legal and about to graduate college.

Its not like I'm back in West Canaan wearing my Coyotes letter jacket hitting on HS chicks.

Besides, I don't think you are ever too old to go out to the bar. When my fiancee and I have kids I don't expect we'll make it to the bar as often as we do now, but we'll still be going out for drinks with our friends

I also fully intend to have a regular little pub somewhere that I can go sip a pint and have a nip of the malt as I BS with the other old geezers.

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or you could just stop being a condescending snob and make the relationship work.

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ditto

this is what convinced me...

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I can respect a chick who works at an upscale salon, but I mean this beotch worked at SuperCuts and thinks Visible Changes is a high-end salon.

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Just stop complaining and start accepting and respecting your sister n law.

It sounds like you would do anything to break up their marriage. (example: trying to convince him to go out to the bar even though you knew it was against his wife's wishes) You should respect your brother for sticking to his commitment and respecting his wife, instead of calling him a "brow-beaten no-sac" guy. You and I may not agree with his wife, but he did the right thing IMO by not going. If he has a problem with it, he should have not gone and then discuss the situation with his wife later.

Your brother sounds like a good guy, and you are the one IMO sounding like a jerk.

sounds like your brother needs some of these:

http://www.chime.com/grenmar/4.html

Or these:

At least he didn't marry a Mexican. [/racist Texager]

I probably know your brother. my best friend played for Sammy High and is also 24. chances are, he was in his wedding as my friend was in several teammates' weddings last summer. bummer about the girl he married. what position did your brother play or what are his initials? (just curious, you don't have to tell me).

Nothing wrong at all with not liking your brother's wife. In fact, I am constantly not liking my brother's wife. She's an annoying, over-talkative New England liberal, and I don't like her.

Your brother dissed his little sister on her birthday??? WTF??? That's just wrong. What does she think of the sister-in-law?