Strange and Interesting Thread on the Zoo

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Irish 2.0
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Not banned yet
Of course it was for that. In what universe did you think it was okay to post a naked man spreading open his butt cheeks on our platform?
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azul_rain
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Irish
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
normaleagle05
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I've only had one ban, it was a perma, and it was on this account.

I am the un-banned.
Uncle Howdy
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hedge said:

Geralt this is your BEST work yet !


Thanks. I wish I could say the same for you
azul_rain
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Must be nice, I'll try staff again in a year or two. Then I can morph into azulHedge
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
BenFiasco14
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hedge said:

Must be nice, I'll try staff again in a year or two. Then I can morph into azulHedge


CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Ghost of Bisbee
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Ben and hedge are one and the same, aren't they
azul_rain
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No damnit
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
Buzzy
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I think one of the people who was doing a ban check was then banned.
Wild West Pimp Style
Agsquatch
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ladies and germs i think we're embarking on a new golden era of texags
tandy miller
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WatchOle
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I've had some time to dig into this a little further.

For me, I'll need to divide this into two buckets. I say that because until Wednesday, I didn't realize that the user MuckRaker96 (and later Fat Bib Fortuna) was both the user I received a complaint about last fall and the user that two or three posters have been trying to dox for the last couple of years based on a criminal act in 2010.

The idea that I never made that connection might hit you as unbelievable or disappointing or maybe even a relief - I'm not sure. But here's the deal: we're not in the TexAgs office assembling dossiers on you guys. We're not running background checks or cross checking your AgTag with criminal records nor are we building up a database of dirt to search through. We're doing pretty much none of that actually. It's pretty difficult to keep track of users beyond forum activity which is what we are set up for.

Let's get into the first bucket: There's been talk on this thread and others about MuckRaker96 using information he has obtained through organizing off-board contests (and promoting them here) to dox users. I've not seen much evidence of that nor has anyone contacted me directly about being doxxed (having their real identity posted online in an effort to harass).

However, I DID receive a complaint this time last year from a user about MuckRaker96. That complaint expressed concern that after a negative interaction on the forums, this user believed MuckRaker might have registered his email address on numerous left-leaning political email lists. By the end of the day however, this user emailed me back stating that he was wrong and that a friend had fessed up to the prank -- case closed.

Well maybe not, because 6 months later this user emailed me again saying that he was "wrong about being wrong" and his friend had a couple of weeks earlier recanted his previous confession. The user also included a link to a previous conviction years earlier of the individual behind the username MuckRaker96 for online harassment. This user believed once again that the harassment they experienced in the fall was likely from MuckRaker96 misusing their email address.

Let me be clear: this is the only complaint I'm aware of that accuses MuckRaker96 of misusing email addresses collected via off-board contests. If I'm wrong about this, please speak up. It being the only complaint, the reality that it's pretty much impossible for us to verify (or falsify) these types of claims, and the strangeness with how this complaint unfolded all combined to give us some doubt and we elected not to pursue action against the user. Again, if there are other claims of misuse of information by MuckRaker, I'm not aware of them.

Now regarding the other bucket about us removing attempts by users to dox MuckRaker96 as it relates to a criminal history, that is true. Several posters here HAVE been moderated over the past couple of years by various moderators for attempting to dox the user for a 2010 incident involving the solicitation of nude photos from minors through the impersonation of two high school athletes. One of those athletes was former A&M football player Trent Hunter.

We moderated these posts because we have a zero tolerance policy with regard to doxing. That is to say, we will moderate any attempt by users to "out" the real identity of any and all users here. The protection of your identities and your personal identifiable info is supremely important as individuals register for this service with the expectation that their real identities will remain private.

The posters we moderated were attempting to dox MuckRaker96 not because this individual was using our platform to further criminal acts or groom victims. They were attempting to dox this individual because they believed the poster to be a bad person. Again, that belief was not for the user's actions here (to the best of my knowledge), but for what the doxxing users discovered about the individual's past actions elsewhere.

Look, do we have an affinity for sex offenders? No, NO - we absolutely do not. But we DO have an affinity for the privacy of our users and we will not go down the road where on individual posters decide which people on here are bad enough to be doxxed. I would hope that most of you would find that reassuring in this day and age.

If MuckRaker96 (aka Fat Bib Fortuna), or any other poster for that matter, is using this platform to pursue crime or harass users (either on-board or off-board) I absolutely want to know about it and will investigate further.

Thanks,

Brandon
The Dirty Sock
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Bathroom time reading
Bunk Moreland
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So you're saying it's time to put the tar and feathers up?


TyHolden
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Leggo My Elko
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azul_rain
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You mean to tell me this whole time my pizza has been burning in the oven
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
THE_CHOSEN_ONE
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george1992
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Have you googled deauxma from the Friday thread? She wants to thank you for your service to this website.
Zemira
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[Read it again. -Staff]
Buzzy
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No, he's saying user privacy is important, and insisting people not be allowed to post on TexAgs because you don't personally like them (or like something about their past) isn't reason enough to ban them from the website. No one has come to him with evidence muckraker used this website to groom or entice underage users, if you have evidence, take it to him.

It may be loathsome to you to think you're sharing a website and forum with someone who is attracted to underage girls and attempted to procure pictures of underage girls, and that is perfectly fine, you can withdraw your support from TexAgs and discontinue posting here, that is your right.

There are people on TexAgs who find drug users and drug addicts just as loathsome and would prefer they not be on here, there are people who find alcoholics convicted of DWIs loathsome and prefer they not be allowed to post on here, there are people who find people who favor a liberal (or conservative) political ideology loathsome and prefer they not be allowed here, if you ban everyone someone else finds loathsome or disagrees with, eventually you don't have a website because there are no users left.

Brandon and his staff aren't in the business of running background checks on the users here, the fact that users on here sometimes try to dox other users simply because they're losing an argument is more a statement on the mental fragility of some users on here than it is a statement on the identity (good or bad) of their doxxing 'victims'.
Redstone
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I was predicting this outcome …since very shortly after the first of the four threads dropped. I also want to again thank all those who Starred my posts across those threads. In total, it went very well.
BenFiasco14
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Good post

CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Tanya 93
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That is a good way to get banned.
GIF Reactor
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BenFiasco14 said:

hedge said:

It's just a bunch of vague bull****, there's missing context


Why did your parents let you out of the basement today?


Apparently to argue about what constitutes a sport.
Slicer97
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Electrical_Ag said:

BenFiasco14 said:

hedge said:

It's just a bunch of vague bull****, there's missing context


Why did your parents let you out of the basement today?


Apparently to argue about what constitutes a sport.


hedge is correct in that soccer isn't a real sport, but this strikes me as sort of a "blind chicken, kernel of corn" situation as opposed to hedge disseminanting some educated, well thought out opinion
Ol_Ag_02
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This was fairly reasonable, forthcoming, and candid.

However this is Texags so I'm still reserving my right to ***** and complain about everything you just said, regardless of whether I agree or disagree with it.
Ghost of Bisbee
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All I know is fat bib fortuna or muckracker's criminal incident is enough to make me avoid this poster like the plague. Despicable offense and really has no business having an internet presence.
LupinusTexensis
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Wbt probably in the back taking notes on how to avoid getting caught
Bad Poster
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Maybe we can workout a compromise. Maybe not ban fbf from texags, but he has to register for a sex offender tag that shows up next to stars/rank/etc. we could make the symbol a very recognizable symbol like the "attracted to minors" flag or handcuffs. Or if thats too outrageous/hard to track, then maybe texags should just ban the ability to collect people's contact info through this website. Texags wouldnt want to be responsible for something bad happening to users that they could have prevented right?
histag10
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Does with get one too?
Sea Speed
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No because he has not been known to be a registered sex offender. The jokes are all fun and games but trying to peg him to someone who is an actual sex offender is a bridge a bit too far imo.
Sooper Jeenyus
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He's definitely going to need a new handle now.
Sea Speed
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As someone on the entertainment board said, he should just go away. He will never be able to post here again without it leading to immediately calling him out and thread derails. He has a unique posting style and it will probably be recognized immediately. If he is able to maintain anonymity then he will be allowed to post indefinitely, which is kind of the point of anonymous message boards.
THE_CHOSEN_ONE
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LupinusTexensis said:

Wbt probably in the back taking notes on how to avoid getting caught

Hi, I play football for the Texas A&M Aggies. Would you like to take this conversation to PMs?
 
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