Ragoo said:

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How are you all getting these things?

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Mine are all calcium oxalate, which are the most common kind. Likely a combination of not limiting intake of some high oxalate foods enough, not drinking at least 2L of water per day, and genetics. Some people produce a lot more urinary oxalate than others.

If you get these type of stones here are dietary guidelines (and this sucks if you are a southerner).

Never list
Dark tea

Only with strict moderation list
Beer
Dark soda
Leafy greens, especially spinach
Okra
Nuts
Dark chocolate
Grains (most all kinds need to be watched, but especially Bran)
Strawberries
Rhubarb

Caution list
Black pepper
Sweet potato
Pineapple
Figs
Raspberries
Orange
Dates
Avocados

Sounds awful

I rang in the new millennium with my only experience with them. Woke up around 4am with the most God-awful pain I've ever experienced in my life. I thought my appendix had exploded. The ER nurse knew what it was the moment I walked in the door.

The morphine was so nice. Luckily, I must have passed it at some point without knowing it and haven't had another one yet. Hopefully I never will feel that pain again.

I had one last year. Very fortunate that I was in extreme pain 10 hours. Threw up 27 times.

Enough to make me make sure to drink 3 liters of fluids a day and limit my oxalates.

Godspeed to you.

I've had 4 or 5 in my life, starting at age 8 and the last one at about age 50. They come so infrequently that I don't recognize the symptoms until it's too late. Each one has ended in a trip to the emergency room and multiple shots of morphine to cope with the pain.

Every one that's been analyzed has resulted in the same outcome - a recommendation to "drink more water"

I've had 3 confirmed, and a 4th non-confirmed, but I'm only 38. I've been able to pass them all on my own, but I have a feeling bigger ones are due at some point.

Pain made me throw up. Lithotripsy didn't work, they had to go up and get it. I refused to go through the humiliation of having someone else pull the stent out so I did it myself when it was time.

Yes, it is a miserable experience.

A childhood friend got hooked on pain pills and eventually heroine starting with pills for stones. He's had a similar history to the OP with stones.

Other personal factors of course led to the culmination ending in rehab, but he said that was the root cause.

Good guy, bad luck, and poor decisions, but my heart hurts for him nonetheless.

Never had Kidney Stones...

Had Gallstones and they would put me in the floor in the fetal position.

Thankfully, I have since had gallbladder removed and don't have to deal with it anymore.

Every person I've known who's had these had a Dr. Pepper problem.

The Dirty Sock said:

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Every person I've known who's had these had a Dr. Pepper problem.

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I had 4 kidney stones the summer after my freshman year. I basically never drank soda until I lived in the Commons. Needless to say I learned that lesson. I'm like 90% sure dr pepper alone is the reason I had those stones.

And like somebody above I've also had gall stones and those were a ***** too. Not as bad as kidney stones. And they just took my gallbladder out anyway.

Now I just get cluster headaches every so often. I'd rather have a kidney stone than a month of nightly cluster headaches.

I curse this thread. Few days after posting my experience from 22 years ago, my urine has turned pink. Didn't think blood early on cause it was just oddly dark, but after chugging water all day its now clearly a very light pink hue.

No pain or other symptoms yet after 36 hours of first noticing dark urine. Maybe a twinge here and there but might be in my head.

So since I am not in agony (yet), do I just go to my GP first? Will a pee test tell me anything helpful past the presence of blood? ER seems drastic if I don't yet need that sweet morphine and I don't particularly want to visit a Covid ground zero. I don't currently have a urologist, since everything has worked fine down there since college. &! $':%

My wife has had 4 in the past. She's worried she has another brewing as she's bloated and has bad back pain, which she never has. We're hoping it passes naturally and soon so she can enjoy her Christmas and extended time off. Would suck to spend Christmas and your deserved time off in pain.

SJEAg said:

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I curse this thread. Few days after posting my experience from 22 years ago, my urine has turned pink. Didn't think blood early on cause it was just oddly dark, but after chugging water all day its now clearly a very light pink hue.

No pain or other symptoms yet after 36 hours of first noticing dark urine. Maybe a twinge here and there but might be in my head.

So since I am not in agony (yet), do I just go to my GP first? Will a pee test tell me anything helpful past the presence of blood? ER seems drastic if I don't yet need that sweet morphine and I don't particularly want to visit a Covid ground zero. I don't currently have a urologist, since everything has worked fine down there since college. &! $':%

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GP and Urologist both will order piss test and imaging to see what's cooking. If its a big stone Xray might see it, but CT Scan will find it for sure if you have one.

For what it's worth my first stone this month caused my piss to turn coca cola colored right before bed with absolutely zero pain. Then all hell broke loose after I fell asleep. The 2nd stone a week later gave no such indication and just went straight on to pain.

Cromagnum said:

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SJEAg said:

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I curse this thread. Few days after posting my experience from 22 years ago, my urine has turned pink. Didn't think blood early on cause it was just oddly dark, but after chugging water all day its now clearly a very light pink hue.

No pain or other symptoms yet after 36 hours of first noticing dark urine. Maybe a twinge here and there but might be in my head.

So since I am not in agony (yet), do I just go to my GP first? Will a pee test tell me anything helpful past the presence of blood? ER seems drastic if I don't yet need that sweet morphine and I don't particularly want to visit a Covid ground zero. I don't currently have a urologist, since everything has worked fine down there since college. &! $':%

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GP and Urologist both will order piss test and imaging to see what's cooking. If its a big stone Xray might see it, but CT Scan will find it for sure if you have one.

For what it's worth my first stone this month caused my piss to turn coca cola colored right before bed with absolutely zero pain. Then all hell broke loose after I fell asleep. The 2nd stone a week later gave no such indication and just went straight on to pain.

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Welp, at the ER with an IV in. Pain maybe a 5 but I wasn't going to wait until it exploded. Never clicking a kidney stone topic post ever again.

2 words: chanca piedra

I have a renal ultrasound scheduled monday. If you people gave me a kidney stone i will knife you all

gallbladder pain is longer and worse, had to have that removed, that sucked for real

I stopped drinking tea and now I get a stone every couple years instead of a couple times a year.. chug water when you think you have one.
I can tell 100% when I have one scratching up my insides.

Had a 6mm one that lodged in my ureter and just kept turning but wouldn't move. Whoever said morphine wouldn't work was right and I had to shift to hydromorphone drip until the urologist could laser it.

It left some scarring which has now caused a stricture in my ureter that still allows flow but causes a hydronephrosis (swelling) of my left kidney leading to increased abnormal urine protein readings. The swelling can be alleviated with a ureter stent but those are temporary and my urologist has to put me under light anesthesia to install and remove so he's decided to keep it monitored without the stent since I'm not having any pain from the kidney swelling

Anyway, stones ****ing suck

chiken said:

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I have a renal ultrasound scheduled monday. If you people gave me a kidney stone i will knife you all

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If you do, it will still probably hurt less than a stone. Hopefully the plumbing is all clear.

Hydronephrosis sucks almost as bad as the stone itself if you get backed up bad enough. My 2nd stone this month I was adamant about not putting a stent in since the previous two stents sucked balls.

Mistake. I had enough inflammation and blood clots from all the carnage that I felt like dog **** for about 4 days post stone removal. On the 3rd day I started passing solid material and eventually felt much better once that ran its course. A stent would have at least helped with all that, stent pain issues aside.

Cromagnum said:

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chiken said:

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I have a renal ultrasound scheduled monday. If you people gave me a kidney stone i will knife you all

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If you do, it will still probably hurt less than a stone. Hopefully the plumbing is all clear.

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I am honest to God starting to feel the beginnings of that stone pain. FML

Chanca piedra y'all need to check it out

Aggie Hunter said:

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Chanca piedra y'all need to check it out

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One of the few things I hadn't stumbled across. Had heard a variety of other things help such as: citric acid on a daily basis from lemons (or potassium citrate tablets), magnesium supplements, and vitamin B6 supplements.

A new pill called Kidney COP seems to be getting good reviews

Cactus Jack said:

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I know I'm not the only one who read the thread title in Mama Boucher's voice.

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nope

Kidneys: the *******s of internal organs, literally and figuratively.

IF YOU HAVE KIDNEY STONES, TRY THIS:

Text from Dad
" Tell him to drink a six pack of cokes and to eat a 8 oz. can of asparagus all in 1 hour . Ain't as easy as it sounds , but if he's in real pain like I've have - you would eat a horse turd to make it go away. Usually in 1-2 hour when he starts pissin it will feel like he's pissin sand. Thats the broke up stones passin"

I'm not the kind of person that looks up remedies for health problems to skirt the doctor, but this apparently works. Dad has done this 3 times and several of his friends have tried it with good results. Dad found this after they tried to break some up with ultrasound and a laser or whatever and those didnt work. Worth a shot if you're in agony.

bugslinger said:

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IF YOU HAVE KIDNEY STONES, TRY THIS:

Text from Dad
" Tell him to drink a six pack of cokes and to eat a 8 oz. can of asparagus all in 1 hour . Ain't as easy as it sounds , but if he's in real pain like I've have - you would eat a horse turd to make it go away. Usually in 1-2 hour when he starts pissin it will feel like he's pissin sand. Thats the broke up stones passin"

I'm not the kind of person that looks up remedies for health problems to skirt the doctor, but this apparently works. Dad has done this 3 times and several of his friends have tried it with good results. Dad found this after they tried to break some up with ultrasound and a laser or whatever and those didnt work. Worth a shot if you're in agony.

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Thats not sand. Thats all the beetus coming out.

I am a coffee-holic and don't drink near enough water as I should. Have had 4 bouts. Finally started adding lemon juice concentrate to 99% of the water I drink and have not had one in 8 years or so (still a coffee-holic)

Not as bad as many on this thread, but the first two times I went to the ER as it was a "WTF is happening to me" situation. For me it was a waste of time and money. Pump yourself with some strong asprin and fight throught it (fetal position helps ). Again, those with the larger stones have it the roughest for sure and have no choice but to get medical assistance.

Saying goes kidney stones are the closest thing to the pain of natural childbirth. If so and I was a woman, I would NEVER get pregnant!!!

I learned during my latest bout that heat helps. May alleviate it some, but just having a different type of pain sensation to help the monotony is very helpful. I put a very hot pad (the type you microwave) on, and was literally thinking to myself "ohhhh, that burns SO good". It's like the trope where the sergeant breaks your fingers to make you not think about the gunshot.

It's still in me, don't think its in my bladder but not getting much right now other than occasional blood and twinges...not sure what it's problem is. Only 3mm and they said at the ER several days ago it was mostly through, but seems to want to just hang out.

Costco makes a good lemonade.

Tastes great with a bit of Makers Mark.

It is nor as sweet as the stuff you get in the grocery stores.


I got one just as everything shut down in the spring. Ultimately had to have the lithotripsy procedure. Stent and all.

I'm 52 and thanking God I've never had to experience this after reading these experiences. Wow.

Aggie Hunter said:

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2 words: chanca piedra

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Am I the only one that read this as 'chancla piedra?'

Plug that one into your Google translator...

You got neutered? So you have no balls?