Coin said:

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fc2112 said:

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This thread - delivered.

I didn't know there really was anyone who didn't believe generally accepted physics.

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Do you even realize how stupid that statement is?
Further, what physics do I not agree with?

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General relativity.

But I'm not going to argue it - I think you like it too much. And I won't change your mind, because i don't think there's anything to change.

OasisMan said:

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I've seen several diff theories, but
What are the boundaries of your flat earth

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I don't know.
Could be just beyond the ice wall
Could be an infinite plane of dark frozen wasteland
We could be one thawed pond of many in a greater frozen world.
But I find this theory most interesting. It postulates the moon is a mirror image map of earth. It seems to me like something God would do. There are other more detailed videos of this topic as well.
Greater World Map and Natural Climate Change

fc2112 said:

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General relativity.

But I'm not going to argue it - I think you like it too much. And I won't change your mind, because i don't think there's anything to change.

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General relativity is a theory, which I believe is incorrect. I will admit I am no expert, I have only heard contrary theories which seem to prove it incorrect.

My mind is always open to change when presented with evidence. That's how I ended up in the flat earth community.

Tomdoss92 said:

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toolshed said:

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If the earth is flat, or round and not a sphere, how is it daytime here and nighttime in China now? If it's flat, we're all either facing the sun or we aren't.

It amazes me how ignorant "smart" people can be.

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flat things have two sides. duh.

proof

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*****

Coin said:

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AliasMan02 said:

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What happens when you look at that same line of poles with a telescope? I bet you don't know, since you haven't actually read anything I have posted.

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The far away things are magnified.

AliasMan02 said:

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Howdy Dammit said:

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This is an A+ troll

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Absolutely. Respect.

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His posting tendencies are making me question if it's actually a troll.

Even real flat earthers' personalities are trolls by default, so... potayto potahto

Coin said:

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Geddy Lee soul patch said:

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Where do you get that number from? Earth curves 7.98" per mile. At 9.41 miles that's 75.1" (6'-3"). How do you get nearly 60 feet?

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It's not per mile, it's per mile squared.
Per mile would make a line, per mile square makes a curve.

In case photoshoped math is too difficult.
https://earthcurvature.com/

But please keep laughing at me and ignoring reality.

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My apologies, you are correct. 8" is correct for one mile, not for multiples.

http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.02/shirley3.html

HossAg said:

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AliasMan02 said:

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Howdy Dammit said:

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This is an A+ troll

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Absolutely. Respect.

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His posting tendencies are making me question if it's actually a troll.

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Plus 260 posts in 12 years

Reality trumps troll every time though

Apology accepted.

Creepy you guys looked into posting history. I didn't even know you could do that. That just makes me embarrassed to know I've posted on the general board this much.

So you don't believe in the ISS or the people who have been in it? Or Felix baumgarters jump from space? Or Jeff bezos going to space? Also there are several civil engineering designs from bridges to tunnels that take the curvature into account. Can't believe I'm feeding the troll.

Geralt of Rivia said:

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I love that meme and laugh every time, but for some reason tonight - maybe due to how long that has been out there getting me to laugh - I worried about the guy and how he's handled this probably unwanted fame.

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/09/dave-wills-explains-why-he-was-crying-in-infamous-its-still-real-to-me-dammit-meme/

Howdy Dammit said:

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So you don't believe in the ISS or the people who have been in it? Or Felix baumgarters jump from space? Or Jeff bezos going to space? Also there are several civil engineering designs from bridges to tunnels that take the curvature into account. Can't believe I'm feeding the troll.

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Army field artillery takes the curvature of the earth into account in their calculations.

These videos are concise and entertaining.

Howdy Dammit said:

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So you don't believe in the ISS or the people who have been in it? Or Felix baumgarters jump from space? Or Jeff bezos going to space? Also there are several civil engineering designs from bridges to tunnels that take the curvature into account. Can't believe I'm feeding the troll.

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Do you believe this was filmed in the vacuum of space
ISS Floppy Hatch
Or these in Zero Gavity
Cable break
Green screen fails
Green screen lies

Felix jumped out of a high altitude balloon, the only thing I don't believe about it was that he was actually in space.
Wide angle lens

Jeff Bezos only got a ride of the vomit comet aka zero-g plane.
Blue Origin lie

I have listened to several interviews with civil engineers, pilots, ship captains, field armillary members, submarine sonar techs, and light house operators who have all stated earth's curvature is not considered. You see, Light houses, LORAN, and Sonar all are evidence the earth is not a ball. None of them could work at the distances they do, if the earth curved away from them.

Additionally, all flight manuals for the Army, Navy, Airforce, CIA, NASA, etc. state at the beginning the ground is assumed to be "a flat, non-rotating plane".

Thanks for the videos of professor dumb. I've seen several of his. He likes to make wild assumptions and state them as fact.
1. Makes assumptions about the shape and nature of the moon that he cannot prove.
2. He assumes the stars are far away rathe than close. Also, notice he says the stars rotate around a point in the sky in the southern hemisphere, but doesn't point it out like he does for the north. If you actually watch star trails in the south, they do not mimic the northern hemisphere.
3. We already talked about flights, but I'll add this about emergency landing that prove flat earth
4. A conspiracy this big is too complex... That is no proof.


The title of his videos says it all "without using science". Thanks, but I prefer actual science.
He is exactly one of the paid trolls propped up to maintain the narrative.

Let's take actual facts and reality off the table for a second.

I would love to know why you think this is a conspiracy. And that all of the smartest mathematicians/physicists/engineers/etc on planet earth are all in agreement in covering this up. Conspiracies need a reason.

9/11 was the government wanting to go to war. The moon was merely an ego competition with another country. Covid mandates were for mail in ballots.

Each conspiracy needs a reason. I'm not seeing the reason for this one.

Complete Idiot said:

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I wouldnt waste a single second trying to disprove a flat earther, they have issues deeper than just a stated belief in the shape of the world.

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I'd say most actual flat earthers (or other conspiracy theorists of this magnitude), trolls aside, fall into one of these categories:
1. People that believed, but realize they're wrong and are too far in to admit it.
2. People with mental illness.
3. People that believe simply because they want it to be true so can feel a since of belonging in a community and because it lets them feel like they know something no one else does.

I mentioned this above. The purpose of the conspiracy is to hide God. This is the mother of all conspiracies.

Most people have difficulty realizing that the enemy of God does all he can to keep us from knowing God, and has been at it a lot longer than you and I have been alive. Think about what kind of generational power and wealth could be built up over millennia. He promises those who serve him power, money, fame, etc in exchange for them doing his will on earth. Those who step out of line are disposed of.

If you already acknowledge 9/11, moon landing, and Covid were lies, then you are well on your way.

So, just to confirm, you believe in God and creation and a flat Earth?

CDub06 said:

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I'd say most actual globe earthers, trolls aside, fall into one of these categories:
1. People that believed, but realize they're wrong and have the ability to change their mind.
2. People with mental illness.
3. People that believe simply because they have been fed the lies their entire lives, and to admit they are wrong would throw everything they believe into question.

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FIFY

Why do you think globes and space facts are in every kindergarten classroom in America? The indoctrination starts early and is then difficult to break free from.

We all live on the earth and the earth is flat, so we're all "flat earthers"

AgEng06 said:

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So, just to confirm, you believe in God and creation and a flat Earth?

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100%

The biggest conspiracy I believe is that dress is gold and white. And all of y'all that say it's black and blue have been trying to keep me from a deeper relationship from my creator.

Coin said:

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AgEng06 said:

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So, just to confirm, you believe in God and creation and a flat Earth?

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100%

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How does the earth being flat provide more proof of a god existing? Does the round earth just make too much sense?

Coin said:

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CDub06 said:

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I'd say most actual globe earthers, trolls aside, fall into one of these categories:
1. People that believed, but realize they're wrong and have the ability to change their mind.
2. People with mental illness.
3. People that believe simply because they have been fed the lies their entire lives, and to admit they are wrong would throw everything they believe into question.

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FIFY

Why do you think globes and space facts are in every kindergarten classroom in America? The indoctrination starts early and is then difficult to break free from.

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The bolded part is hilarious coming from someone that's very religious like yourself.

CDub06 said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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I wouldnt waste a single second trying to disprove a flat earther, they have issues deeper than just a stated belief in the shape of the world.

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I'd say most actual flat earthers (or other conspiracy theorists of this magnitude), trolls aside, fall into one of these categories:
1. People that believed, but realize they're wrong and are too far in to admit it.
2. People with mental illness.
3. People that believe simply because they want it to be true so can feel a since of belonging in a community and because it lets them feel like they know something no one else does.

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I wouldn't use the term illness, but some personality traits and quirks, which we all have, do lead some to believe in things related to "those in power are hiding from us powerless people". It's not just flat earth, but many other theories, which may seem believable and belief in them gives the believer some feeling of regaining personal power "I know it, few others do". It doesn't help that some conspiracy theories have been proven to be true, maybe 0.01%, but they can be pointed to as "you can't trust those in power". I have traits that lead me to be cynical, or to over analyze things before making decisions, etc - these are annoying to both me and others at times, but ultimately harmless. Belief in flat earth is basically harmless, some other group beliefs in conspiracy theories have proven to be harmful when the group acts on their belief but 98% of the time these beliefs are harmless.

I do think everyone feels good being part of an "exclusive" club, as you note in #3. We are Aggies, too bad everyone else doesn't understand how great that is! Or religion, or running marathons, or collecting classic Porsches, on and on.

HossAg said:

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How does the earth being flat provide more proof of a god existing? Does the round earth just make too much sense?

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Really? The fact the earth is not floating in infinite space, that it is stationary and all luminaries rotate above us, and the whole thing is an enclosed system would not make you realize it had to be created with purpose by a divine being?

You're saying God couldn't create an infinite universe?