New AI can guess whether you're gay or straight from a photograph

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Woody2006
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/07/new-artificial-intelligence-can-tell-whether-youre-gay-or-straight-from-a-photograph
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Artificial intelligence can accurately guess whether people are gay or straight based on photos of their faces, according to new research that suggests machines can have significantly better "gaydar" than humans.

The study from Stanford University which found that a computer algorithm could correctly distinguish between gay and straight men 81% of the time, and 74% for women has raised questions about the biological origins of sexual orientation, the ethics of facial-detection technology, and the potential for this kind of software to violate people's privacy or be abused for anti-LGBT purposes.
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The paper suggested that the findings provide "strong support" for the theory that sexual orientation stems from exposure to certain hormones before birth, meaning people are born gay and being queer is not a choice. The machine's lower success rate for women also could support the notion that female sexual orientation is more fluid.

While the findings have clear limits when it comes to gender and sexuality people of color were not included in the study, and there was no consideration of transgender or bisexual people the implications for artificial intelligence (AI) are vast and alarming. With billions of facial images of people stored on social media sites and in government databases, the researchers suggested that public data could be used to detect people's sexual orientation without their consent.
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"It's certainly unsettling. Like any new tool, if it gets into the wrong hands, it can be used for ill purposes," said Nick Rule, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, who has published research on the science of gaydar. "If you can start profiling people based on their appearance, then identifying them and doing horrible things to them, that's really bad."
For all of you on the down low... get ready to be outed.
Leeman
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Oh no !
pattybrhg
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What's the big deal? Computers should be able to see a limp wrist.

On a serious note, can the general population not get this correct 74 or 81 percent of the time?
Woody2006
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On a serious note, can the general population not get this correct 74 or 81 percent of the time?
Not according to their data.
agnerd
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So when the robots take over, I assume they're going to kill all the breeders first, right? They don't really have to worry about the gays reproducing.
Hi, Im Brett
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Not Hotdog
concac
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Who the hell is Al?
Martin Q. Blank
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Woody2006 said:

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On a serious note, can the general population not get this correct 74 or 81 percent of the time?
Not according to their data.
Just guess straight every time.
chipotle
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Really? TO THE POST A PIC THREAD!
Know Your Enemy
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RealTalk said:

Who the hell is Al?

Paul Simon
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HBCanine08
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Human said:




You can see that dude's ***k holster from his adam's apple to his chin.
Beer Baron
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Gayface is a very real thing.
pattybrhg
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Expressions and grooming styles are also listed as visual cues too though. Jumping straight to pre birth genetics seems a bit of a causational leap. It's not like it couldn't still be biological and involve hormones at other developmental point as well. Seems like some interesting playing with interesting data. It's plenty interesting without trying to make it fit a narrative.
pattybrhg
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Exactly, you'd be right at the 5 picture performance number just guessing straight every time.
MouthBQ98
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You are presuming they fed it a test sample based on population proportions, and not a 50/50 sample that would be typical of the straight up random guess, to account for that factor.

It could be cueing on grooming or dress stereotypes or weight/fitness stereotypes or some unintentional factor like background color or something.
ShotOver
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...this ought to be good.....
Woody2006
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Seems like some interesting playing with interesting data. It's plenty interesting without trying to make it fit a narrative.
It appears to me that you like to use the word "interesting".
SlackerAg
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It could cue on their Prius in the background.
Claude!
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Beer Baron said:

Gayface is a very real thing.

But is it an in-born or learned thing? Are thugs born predisposed to mean mugging? Are slack-jawed yokels born slack-jawed?
jr15aggie
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You don't need AI for this!!!


Gay


Gay Gay



Not Gay



I'm batting 1000 here... Easy!
MEEN Ag 05
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Old news....you can get it at the Sharper Image...

Flashdiaz
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this is getting high marks on my who-gives-a-**** meter.
Tomdoss92
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Flashdiaz said:

this is getting high marks on my who-gives-a-**** meter.
haha look at the guy that cares enough to buy a who-gives-a-**** meter!
wangus12
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For all of you on the down low... get ready to be outed.
Too bad the Post a Pic Thread is gone amirite
BlueAg2003
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Dude, I hate to tell you, but I could go to RoundUp in the Dallas Gayborhood tonight and find about fifteen guys who look just like this.
Beer Baron
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Yep. Or the Iron Bear in Austin.
85Photon
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Martin Q. Blank said:

Woody2006 said:

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On a serious note, can the general population not get this correct 74 or 81 percent of the time?
Not according to their data.
Just guess straight every time.
This is brilliant Martin. If the photos are truly random samples, and 95%+ of the population is straight, you'd have a 95% success right. I suspect their photo pool is tainted.
Hi, Im Brett
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JJ85 Reveille said:

Martin Q. Blank said:

Woody2006 said:

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On a serious note, can the general population not get this correct 74 or 81 percent of the time?
Not according to their data.
Just guess straight every time.
This is brilliant Martin. If the photos are truly random samples, and 95%+ of the population is straight, you'd have a 95% success right. I suspect their photo pool is tainted.
what if they're selfies?
Aston04
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This is fake science trying to "prove" being gay is something one is born with, despite no real genetic evidence.
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