well i totally agree what he did was terrible and uncalled for.....no excuse for that.

whats gonna happen when baylor comes to town. are people going to start a fight in the stands? it could get really ugly if the "mitchell maniacs" are in full force. we know baylor has some hardcore fans as well. it could get nasty. i dont want to be a part of it. i will attend but the "mitchell maniacs" will never get me to come around to support them unless they do things the right way.

I think when heckling there is a fine line between what is appropriate and what is not.I consider personal attacks (i.e. a person's ethnicity, family life, etc) crossing the line,whether it is a fan or a player making the remark.

In my opinion real fans are the ones who cheer for their own team no matter,the ones who go to every match no matter who we are playing,who wear the school colors and believe; instead of trying to "psych out" the opponents with personal insults.There are plenty of other,appropriate ways to "psych out" opponents - like cheering REALLY loud and showing up to matches to show them how intimidating it is to play in College Station.

I love the atmosphere that Texas A&M has created for their tennis programs...no other school in the nation compares, let's be classy about it and set the standard even higher!



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Except for several other schools can compare in tennis, and you can only be so loud and only at certain times at tennis.

Exactly. There are ALOT of schools with big crowds. Illinois, Virginia, Baylor, Tulsa, Texas, Georgia, LSU, and Boise to name a few. And they are a more intense crowd. Our crowd does get bigger, sometimes, but the fact is, they are still more intense then us. So it is up to us to raise the bar once again. Do i agree with personal attacks on players? Maybe not, but i do agree with the heckling and trying to get in their heads.

Let me ask you all a question: Would you form this group and behavior to go watch your Ags play in a golf tournament? I don't think so! Tennis etiquette is simple: You applaud when either player makes a good shot, there should be no applauding when either player misses a shot, and you should cheer on your team and not use vulgar language aimed at the opponents. Go ask Tim Cass if this is on the money? I don't care how other schools act, act proper and allow your team/players to win the matches on the court and not in the stands!

Coach Cass told me last year that I should be as smart assed as possible as long as there wasn't a point in play.

Well, if this is the case I hope Bill Byrne is reading these threads. I don't think the Aggie faithful would agree. This sport is very involved mentally and the fans are so close to the players that this is not the correct approach. I think Cass is feeling alot of pressure and will opt for almost anything to give them an edge. Again, win it on the court and not with improper fan interaction.

"Second, yes I am allowed at the tennis center, that was all a load of crap, its just funny they accuse me and tell me they had a size 9 shoe kicking in the door and I wear a 12, they said they had DNA so I offered a sample of mine and they said no. I guess they realized I had worked there for a year so it could be there anyways maybe, I dont know. I offered them to search anywhere they wanted and they said no, they asked where I was that night and I have about 50 people who told them I was passed out drunk at my buddies party. They then told me thank you the stuff had been returned, kind of weird since I was like 7 hours away at a family reunion. I guess it would make sense if I teleported the stuff back, or maybe I took my rocketship... Either way it was a load of crap and I just have no want to be around cass-hole"

whats the story behind this little quote?

"You know Rebel, Tim Cass can get along with just about anyone. He can even be "friendly" to the Dark Lord of Baylor when he rolls into town. The fact that he doesn't want you at the tennis center tells me all I need to know. You have to sneak in and hide so he doesn't see you. Just avoid the situation and stay away.

Also, not buying your explanation of the events around the sound equipment. I know what happened....I know the missing equipment "mysteriously" showed up at a local attorney's house with stong ties to the tennis program and he returned it to the tennis center...only to keep your sorry butt outta jail.

Anyway, I'm tired of you and all this crap you started. Go away...graduate...get outta town. This will be my last time to address you...you're not worth it anymore!"

holy ***.

Some people are confusing "Davis Cup" atmosphere and general "tennis etiquette"..

College tennis matches are very similar to a Davis Cup environment- where the fans are cheering for a team of players. In a "Davis Cup" environment, it is ok to cheer the mistakes of opponents and try to get in their head..

Generally, when watching a regular tennis match, it would not be acceptable to applaud say a double fault. That is not the case in a team tennis environment.

I think the goal should be a Davis Cup atmosphere like mentioned earlier. If we try and get into oponents head's, like what i understand is suggested by Cass, that will make us no different from Baylor and texas "TRASHY FANS". That is something we pride ourselves on DOING WHATS CLASSY AND PROPER NO MATTER WHAT. I was at the OSU match and was ashamed of what I saw from our fans.

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You are totally wrong on the etiquette of a team or individual match. Those are individuals competing as a team but each individual match should be treated with tennis etiquette. How many times do you see the crowd applaud when a golfer misses a putt. Again, allow your team to win the match on their own merits and cheer them along. The bottom line is act appropriate per the event. If you still feel this way then go ask any college coach and they will explain that you don't clap when a player double faults period! Good luck Ags because to this point this years team has under performed.

So is acting like John McEnroe appropriate?

"How many times do you see the crowd applaud when a golfer misses a putt?"

ever hear of the ryder cup?

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they asked where I was that night and I have about 50 people who told them I was passed out drunk at my buddies party.

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The "I had already passed out drunk" defense is the greatest defense ever

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"How many times do you see the crowd applaud when a golfer misses a putt?"

ever hear of the ryder cup?

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Exactly. The dude actually proved my point by looking at golf, which is very similar in how etiquette changes when there is a "home team"..

AND, have you ever watched Davis Cup? You sir, are way off to suggest there is no significant difference..

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How much are the players on the collegiate level are being paid? Ryder Cup fans don't act like this as you are basing your opinion on what happened at Brookline which has caused this to be curbed dramatically. Davis Cup and Ryder Cup is not comparing apples to apples. Just get some class about yourself. Cheer for your team with class and don't opt to be a moron of a fan.

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Go ask Tim Cass if this is on the money?

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I guarantee if you ask Cass he would say that he would like a "Davis Cup type environment" if you asked him...


Even in high school tennis, there was a level of razzing/cheering not seen at USTA tournaments, and was expected, and made it fun as player even on the road..

Just out.. BB's Wed. Weekly...

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As many people have observed, our tennis crowds are not the tea and crumpets set and they don't just applaud. We're more like crowds at the U.S. Open Championship in New York City, or Davis Cup competitions where fans shout out in support of the players. Our opponents obviously aren't used to, first of all, big crowds, let alone loud crowds. We've seen evidence of this numerous times just within the last year in various sports where opponents became riled to the point of distraction.

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Hey rebel you stupid biaacth you just got owned on this thread..no way in hell your rinky dink magizine makes any sort of money I saw you on the job network trying get students to work for you what sham job..you sir are an idiot.

notice BB said "in support of our players" he did not say "in support of our players and harassing of opponents"....you guys keep comparing it to Davis Cup, in DC the crowds are defnitely much more energetic but they still use some tennis etiquette sometimes even applauding good shots from visitors and refrain from verbally abusing visitors instead they just cheer insanely loud for their players on every point which is still enough to rattle the visitors...the aggie home court advantage is still one of the best in the country with or without the heckling, but i can say that other coaches definitely do not think highly of crowds that verbally abuse their players when on the road, we love a huge loud crowd b/c it brings a great atmosphere but when there is a chance of a fight between players and crowd this is way over the line (pacers-piston fans)

Most of our fans will applaud or tell an opponent when he makes a good shot.

"Getting in the opponent's head"

This is the most remarkably overused term in sports today. Too many people aren't satisfied with attending a sporting event and cheering for their team anymore. They have the need to be "part of the show". So they proceed to make a spectacle of themselves and justify it by claiming to "get into the opponent's head".

Why can't people just be honest? Go ahead and admit that you crave attention and this is an easy way to get it? It's also a great excuse act unacceptably toward a person who is in a position where they aren't allowed to kick your @ss for doing so.

There was a time when people in general were better than this. Aggies still should be.

Pigeon88, i totally agree with you. too bad some people don't understand certain concepts.

it will be terrible if this new trend at the tennis events will continue. it will make me not want to be there at all. well, i still probably would go, but i wouldn't have as good of a time there.

If I see this happen again, I will not show up to another match (mens or womens) till the end of the year. It's a shame that we do that now and we think it is an acceptable behavior

I think Aston04 is exactly the kind of fan I am talking about. What do you mean "answer my question first"?

This thread is about the behavior of certain people at our tennis matches, and I said they are an embarrassment to me.

I already have your answer.

You're young, and you have no clue what being an Aggie 20 years ago meant. NO clue.

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You're young, and you have no clue what being an Aggie 20 years ago meant. NO clue.

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No offense, but who cares? It's not 1986.

You act like there were no annoying fans 20 years ago. Get over yourself

I'm pretty sure nobody will remember unruly fans a week later

don't get me wrong, I won't yell during points. I'm a tennis player myself so I do what's appropiate. there's nothing wrong with yelling in support for your team. bugging the other players and yelling inappropiate stuff seems a bit off but nobody's going to remember it a year from now (I should hope)

last spring I remember the tech players really getting in our faces after they came back and won. that was some real tension there.. some guys were saying stuff though that wasn't needed, won't lie

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i have no problem in yelling for support for our team or even saying that we got control of the match, etc....i dont think that is bad, but commenting on the opponents performance is a little much and i wont go that low.

i was at the girls match for a little today and i really enjoyed the crowd from what i saw. its the environment that i like.

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I think Aston04 is exactly the kind of fan I am talking about. What do you mean "answer my question first"?

This thread is about the behavior of certain people at our tennis matches, and I said they are an embarrassment to me.

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What the heck are you talking about.. You were the one rude, answering my question with a question. Once you actually answered my question, I answered yours.

I guess BB is the "type of fan" that's an embarrassment to you as well. lol.

my philosophy going to watch tennis at A&M (and I had quite a few Tennis stamps/scans back last year and the year before). Was to always be in full support of our guy and only make judgement against the other guy if he was just making waaay too many bad calls. I yelled loud when our guy made a great shot, clapped softly when their guy made one. Never, never yell during a shot.

Someone recalled the Tech game last year. Tech took things way out of hand for some small stuff. There was an ahole in our crowd but he was one of about 500 that day. That serbian dude for Tech made some bad, bad, calls.

^I agree with that..

I agree that the loudmouths that have been at the men's matches are a bit annoying, but if you're making BS calls and crying to the official for points, coughPetracough, you deserve what you get.

WOW we lost in Boulder. 2-4. We need a solid performance in Licoln in order to have a shot against baylor

I was is this surprising to you we suck...but oh wait we've nallon playing at 3 or 4 he is bad ass..