thats pretty messed up

Staff- please ban this poster for sharing my personal information. Thats ridiculous

Was there a post on this thread that was deleted? Who was banned/deleted?

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Not sure if he got banned, but I wouldn't be mad if he did. Uncalled for

It is true that it doesn't take a master coach to do well if they can recruit good players and I don't know anything about the SMU coachs' ability as a coach but all you need to do is look at the results to see that she has had SMU winning more than us for several years. Bottom line she is doing a very good job. Maybe you can be a great recruiter and a bus driver and be good, but its hard for me to believe that you can have a "high school" grasp of coaching and make the sweet 16 and have a top 25 team.

Alison Ojeda is known to be a great tennis coach and player, but she had a below average record as a head coach. I don't think one year at Baylor as an assistant after a failed start to her career is enough to make me think she's a great choice.

I think we have the resources to get a great coach who is also a great recruiter.

You'll never hear me applaud the firing of a coach who isn't terrible, recruits good people, and graduates his athletes. BK had a good run here, I wish him the best. With the men's side back on track though, it was probably the right time to make a move. I expect BB to have an easier time with this hire than he did with the men's last time around.

You guys need to come up with some new candidates. Why would Scrivano leave? Baylor has equal facilities to A&M and the guy is set at Baylor and is making plenty of dough. I am sure he has gotten a raise and a bonus every year he has won the Big 12 which has been forever.

There are obviously a lot of Meisner worshipers out there aka Team Groesbeck thanks to the martyr aggietennisfan, but she will not be hired be Bill Byrne. I am not trying to be negative about her as she has done a good job at SMU, but she will not be hired. Let's move on to some other candidates.

Why would she "not be hired"? I agree w/ you regarding Scrivano. I hope we go after him hard. But I agree w/ you that is NO slamdunk. If we're smart, I think we'll go after him. But 20/80 he leaves Waco for College Station. Now, I'm curious as to why you think BB wouldn't hire Meisner. I can't see any reason he wouldn't.

As much as I like Bobby personally, his departure is about 5-10 years overdue.

FWIW, job has been posted officially. May be a formality, but in case any of you wanted to apply....

https://tamujobs.tamu.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp?time=1307159235302

Curious to some of you who know more than I: how interchangeable are men's and women's college tennis coaches? Basketball obviously isn't, swimming usually is, track usually is, baseball/softball aren't. Where does tennis fall on the spectrum?

I think it is very possible for someone to coach both men's and women's tennis but it depends on the coach. Of course the type and pace of the game is obviously quite different. But I think good example is actually Bob McKinley. He was a big coach at Newks, has coached successful women's players (including Li Na) and I would still consider him a very good men's coach. The big kicker is if the coach doesn't mind the differences in the game.

BK was a player's coach and liked him personally. However Aggie recruiting the last few years has been lacking. Ironically the incoming class is the best in several years. Unlike the men's players the women did not improve much after they arrived. Nothing improved when Weaver was hired. We need an indoor facility to attract top recruits and coaches.

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IMHO the incoming recruiting class is a bit overrated on these boards. It wasn't even in the top 40 on tennis recruiting...

http://tennisrecruiting.net/article.asp?id=1135&sessionid=2E7494FE6A2BD3CB

It is impossible to tell until we seem them play, but nothing makes me (or the panel of voters) think that there is anything in this class to make us forget about Morgan Frank.

Also, an indoor facility would be nice, but not having one hasn't hurt Florida's recruiting!

They don't have all of our recruits on their list either, including the JuCo transfer. Hard for a class of 2 to compete with the classes of 4/5/6 on their lists. Their team rankings also seem to be heavily weighted towards American recruits (which makes sense, given the site's business model), despite what the actual results tell us about the balance of American vs. International players.

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There are 5 girls coming in next year so obviously those rankings are inaccurate since they are only based on 2 recruits. 4 strong recruits and one so so recruit. I would say it is easily a top 10-15 class.

Transfers don't count towards the class, but I doubt a Juco transfer and a walk-on transfer would have made much of a difference in our rank. Plus you have to consider all the other schools that have better transfers that would also jump ahead of us.

We have only had one top 25 class (this year's senior class of 2012).

Aggie 61 you are talking out of both sides of your mouth when you say Ironically the incoming class is the best in several years. Nothing improved when Weaver was hired. Are you not going to give Weaver any credit for the upcoming recruiting class.This is the first real class of more than one girl since Weaver was hired. My vote is move Bob over to Head Coach and keep Weaver as the assistant. That is a "Dream Team" on the women's side. Steve and Bob are great together, but Steve could find a good assistant to help out. There are few good women's coaches on the women's side head coach or assistant coach for that matter. Can anyone argue against McKinley/Weaver? COME ON!

McKinley certainly developed lots of outstanding Junior girls includung Ojeda.

I agree with bigboyaggie! McKinley & Weaver it is! What do you think Bigfoot?

Bring back Scott Treibly and let him coach the girls. Love that guy.

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Hearing some rumors about the way BK was let go. Something about office furniture being thrown into his lawn or something? Anyone have the scoop, or has this already been discussed somewhere?

I seriously doubt Byrne would throw a guy's office furniture on his lawn.

I bet he met him as he got off the bus after his last match though.

A former player mentioned it. Doesn't sound like Byrne at all.

Didn't happen that way, but it did happen pretty quickly after he got home.

I dont have a problem with that coaching lineup, I just don't see it happening. I dont think McKinley will leave the guys program.

The thing about the furniture in the lawn is total BS. You should have known that the second you heard it. Kleinecke didn't do any one thing to get fired so it's not like they were kicking his butt out the door. He was always above average but never great, and the mens team's great season was probably the nail in the coffin. It stands to reason that BK is pretty butt hurt about getting canned but he had 27 years, the last 15 or so a fat salary & camp money, some of the best budget and facilities in the country, and never made the Sweet 16. IMHO he's real lucky to have held on as long as he did. He didn't have near the success that Mark Johnson or R.C. did.

The main thing is that neither BK nor Mark Weaver could recruit. The only recruit of note in the Weaver era (Nazari) was recruited by Anna Lubinksy who befriended her on the tour.
To hear coaches tell it, the assistant has as much or more influence on recruiting in college tennis as the head coach does. I think Mark is probably a great tennis coach but anyone who has talked to him knows that doesn't have that charisma that you need to reel them in. Denton looks like a lineman and McKinley is an old man but both of them have that charm and spark when you talk to that makes you want to suit up again and play for them.

The BK mini-runs of success were when he had assistants that could recruit and thats the name of the game.

I love Triebly as well and he has great recruiting connections. He's been out of college for a while and has never been a head coach or a women's coach so that would be tough.

McKinley would be great and he can very obviously recruit with the best but I would be worried that the mens team would be hurt and frankly I'd rather keep the mens dream team together and have a bad women's team if there is any chance the mens suffers if McKinley leaves. McKinley-Weaver would actually be good because they compliment each other well.

I don't really think Coach McKinley wants to go in that direction. A&M is a good job, however, and I don't think there will be any shortage of good coaches who would take a look at it. Things will become clearer fairly shortly I think.

For the record, the women made the sweet 16 in 2004 where they lost to Clemson 4-1

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The thing about the furniture in the lawn is total BS. You should have known that the second you heard it

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I didn't believe it, which is why I came here. I just got a follow up with a link to the article...

http://galvestondailynews.com/story/235338

HA! That is one of the most ignorant articles I have ever read.

Written by a Galveston tennis coach...

Any publication that uses the word "classiest" in the first sentence might as well have put a period, end of story right there.

I'm sure the guy heard it from the same source...pretty clearly a BK crony. I have nothing against BK, but I don't take any credence from that story. There's waayyy too much backlash possible from doing something like that, and while BB might wish for women's tennis to do well, he's not going to jepoardize his position with football to make a point to the women's tennis coach.

The best line is, "If there was ever a clone of Stiglich, it would have to be Bobby Kleinecke."
He didn't mean it this way, but BK should have probably been a really great high school coach and not an above average college coach.

Overall a C- composition, Would have been a D but I do give him points for creative use of the phrase "Byrned".

Read the comments on the article. First time the comments on any article have actually been articulate and spot-on (so far).

The writer was one of BK's high school tennis teammates. He actually wrote TWO articles about the firing. The bit about the couch is in the comments section.