By the way, who goes to Ethiopia with a wife that pregnant?
quote:Agree...they are becoming "Americans" with each passing day
I like that they're honing in on how ruining people's lives is wearing them down. I thought this episode was pretty depressing and kept wanting her to not go through with it. She just destroyed that family.
Looks like the **** is gonna hit the fan next week.
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and phillip and elizabeth discussing the bio weapon. phillip has always seemed to like the US and it seems to be even more so now
quote:They were talking about both, but I think Phillip said something along the lines of "I don't trust us with it"quote:
and phillip and elizabeth discussing the bio weapon. phillip has always seemed to like the US and it seems to be even more so now
Wait, maybe I just completely took this the wrong way, but I thought they were talking about the US using the weapon on them, as in the Soviets, on Soviet soil, not USSR turning around and using it on the US soil where they happen to be living.
quote:Martha was carrying the rat with her when she flew off to Cuba......quote:
The virus is still in play 7 months later and after being flown to Cuba with Martha? Hmmm....
The other virus. The rat one.
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Pastor Tim is a creepy looking mf'er.
quote:I was only 9, and my parents wouldn't let me watch it, so of course I hid outside the TV room and watched it in the reflection off the window. I found the attack sequence terrifying. It probably didn't help that we lived right behind one of those tornado sirens that they'd test every so often. After that, every time they'd test the damn thing I was certain we were being nuked.
I don't have a specific memory of watching The Day After as a kid in '83 but I do remember being obsessed/terrified of the idea nuclear war around that time. The clips they showed seemed vaguely familiar. Anyone else remember watching it live?
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Strongly disagree with Pastor Tim being "creepy". He's been straight up the whole time.
Now, he is naive. Telling his wife, who likes to gossip, definitely the "let's see where we are..." And his naivety will probably get him killed. But he's not "creepy".
quote:There used to be a modern version of the Twilight Zone on back in the 80s and they had one about a woman who learned that she was able to stop time somehow (by yelling "shut up" or something like that). The whole episode she was using her newfound ability to gain advantage in some way, and then at the end there were a bunch of sirens and people running around, and out of frustration she stopped time again. She went outside and there was a nuclear warhead about 10 feet off the ground. That basically the moment she would resume time would be the last on Earth. Sorta along the same nuclear holocaust fear back in the 80s. The nuclear freeze movement was big back then too. Ironically, I don't think we are any safer today than we were then. If anything we are in more danger with more and more countries getting nukes, but that our fear back then was way overboard.quote:I was only 9, and my parents wouldn't let me watch it, so of course I hid outside the TV room and watched it in the reflection off the window. I found the attack sequence terrifying. It probably didn't help that we lived right behind one of those tornado sirens that they'd test every so often. After that, every time they'd test the damn thing I was certain we were being nuked.
I don't have a specific memory of watching The Day After as a kid in '83 but I do remember being obsessed/terrified of the idea nuclear war around that time. The clips they showed seemed vaguely familiar. Anyone else remember watching it live?
I went back and watched the movie as an adult, after spending about 15 years in the military, and while the attack sequence and the aftermath are still disturbing, I thought the "road to war" at the beginning of the movie was very well done. They did a really good job of building up to the attack through very realistic military and diplomatic moves all happening in the background as the characters go about their daily lives.
quote:quote:There used to be a modern version of the Twilight Zone on back in the 80s and they had one about a woman who learned that she was able to stop time somehow (by yelling "shut up" or something like that). The whole episode she was using her newfound ability to gain advantage in some way, and then at the end there were a bunch of sirens and people running around, and out of frustration she stopped time again. She went outside and there was a nuclear warhead about 10 feet off the ground. That basically the moment she would resume time would be the last on Earth. Sorta along the same nuclear holocaust fear back in the 80s. The nuclear freeze movement was big back then too. Ironically, I don't think we are any safer today than we were then. If anything we are in more danger with more and more countries getting nukes, but that our fear back then was way overboard.quote:I was only 9, and my parents wouldn't let me watch it, so of course I hid outside the TV room and watched it in the reflection off the window. I found the attack sequence terrifying. It probably didn't help that we lived right behind one of those tornado sirens that they'd test every so often. After that, every time they'd test the damn thing I was certain we were being nuked.
I don't have a specific memory of watching The Day After as a kid in '83 but I do remember being obsessed/terrified of the idea nuclear war around that time. The clips they showed seemed vaguely familiar. Anyone else remember watching it live?
I went back and watched the movie as an adult, after spending about 15 years in the military, and while the attack sequence and the aftermath are still disturbing, I thought the "road to war" at the beginning of the movie was very well done. They did a really good job of building up to the attack through very realistic military and diplomatic moves all happening in the background as the characters go about their daily lives.
quote:That was one of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes - scared the bejeezus out of younger me.quote:
There used to be a modern version of the Twilight Zone on back in the 80s and they had one about a woman who learned that she was able to stop time somehow (by yelling "shut up" or something like that). The whole episode she was using her newfound ability to gain advantage in some way, and then at the end there were a bunch of sirens and people running around, and out of frustration she stopped time again. She went outside and there was a nuclear warhead about 10 feet off the ground. That basically the moment she would resume time would be the last on Earth. Sorta along the same nuclear holocaust fear back in the 80s. The nuclear freeze movement was big back then too. Ironically, I don't think we are any safer today than we were then. If anything we are in more danger with more and more countries getting nukes, but that our fear back then was way overboard.
quote:For some posters, all youth pastors are creepy....
Strongly disagree with Pastor Tim being "creepy". He's been straight up the whole time.
Now, he is naive. Telling his wife, who likes to gossip, definitely the "let's see where we are..." And his naivety will probably get him killed. But he's not "creepy".
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i still stand by creepy. i just dont know what his motivations are.
either he trusts the family and what they have to say or he doesnt. if he doesnt trust them then he should go to the cops. if he does trust them then the whole "let's meet when i get back" becomes even more creepy.
i find him to be incredibly intrusive.
quote:Not to derail this thread, but I think this event is overblown. I think that only the most ardent Soviet whacko would have launched in that situation and they wouldn't have put a wacko in that position. That warning system was new and unreliable at the time, ground radar didn't corroborate the launches, and they correctly assumed that we would never launch a mere 5 missiles to start a nuclear war. We would instead try to destroy as much of their capacity to retaliate on the first wave as possible. So he used common sense in that situation, not uncommon sense. Such situations get propagandized by anti-nuke types in attempt to scare everybody into demanding their leaders to get rid of all nukes.quote:quote:There used to be a modern version of the Twilight Zone on back in the 80s and they had one about a woman who learned that she was able to stop time somehow (by yelling "shut up" or something like that). The whole episode she was using her newfound ability to gain advantage in some way, and then at the end there were a bunch of sirens and people running around, and out of frustration she stopped time again. She went outside and there was a nuclear warhead about 10 feet off the ground. That basically the moment she would resume time would be the last on Earth. Sorta along the same nuclear holocaust fear back in the 80s. The nuclear freeze movement was big back then too. Ironically, I don't think we are any safer today than we were then. If anything we are in more danger with more and more countries getting nukes, but that our fear back then was way overboard.quote:I was only 9, and my parents wouldn't let me watch it, so of course I hid outside the TV room and watched it in the reflection off the window. I found the attack sequence terrifying. It probably didn't help that we lived right behind one of those tornado sirens that they'd test every so often. After that, every time they'd test the damn thing I was certain we were being nuked.
I don't have a specific memory of watching The Day After as a kid in '83 but I do remember being obsessed/terrified of the idea nuclear war around that time. The clips they showed seemed vaguely familiar. Anyone else remember watching it live?
I went back and watched the movie as an adult, after spending about 15 years in the military, and while the attack sequence and the aftermath are still disturbing, I thought the "road to war" at the beginning of the movie was very well done. They did a really good job of building up to the attack through very realistic military and diplomatic moves all happening in the background as the characters go about their daily lives.
Tough to say our fear was overboard when Stanislov Petrov https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov following his instincts may have been the only thing that kept us from the end of the world as we know it.
quote:What has he done that needs defending?
t's only fair to say that those so ardently defending him may only be doing so because of their Christian beliefs.....
quote:quote:What has he done that needs defending?
t's only fair to say that those so ardently defending him may only be doing so because of their Christian beliefs.....
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And not to start a religious pissing contest but I think if you're going to say that it's only those with an anti-Christian bent who view him that way, it's only fair to say that those so ardently defending him may only be doing so because of their Christian beliefs.....
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And not to start a religious pissing contest but I think if you're going to say that it's only those with an anti-Christian bent who view him that way, it's only fair to say that those so ardently defending him may only be doing so because of their Christian beliefs.....
That's an interesting preemptive comment. Preemptive because no one said that. Interesting for other reasons.
Actually, the primary reason put forth for why people might view him that way was that the writers have done such a masterful job of having us invest in these protagonist bad guys, so your "only" was a hypothetical.
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To me, other than some preconceptions and biases against Christians or pastors that some people bring to their viewing, any dislike of Pastor Tim is a testament to the writers skill and the tone they've created.