*** The Americans: Season 4 ***

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Hannah McKay
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Not Nina!!!!
Quad Dog
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Nina had to go, you betray Soviet Russia only so many times. I just thought they would have taken her somewhere easier to clean up.
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I just finished the episode. I am still sitting with my jaw agape. Talk about surprise. I thought for sure with how long they'd hung onto that storyline that she would have some purpose back out of Russia at some point. There was just something so devastating about that scene. She breaks down and barely has time to process it before she's done. While it was quick, it's still a terrible way to go- in a sobbing panic.
SeattleAgJr
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Well, we know the story payoff will be with her "boyfriend", Oleg, otherwise why cover the story back in Russia with his family.
Tin foil hat here:
He and Stan have been getting buddy-buddy.
As Stan gets closer to suspecting Philip and Elizabeth, he will convince Oleg (looking for revenge on Russia for killing her) to help him, exposing them.
RedbeardAG
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Doesn't seem like there was really any reason to shoot her inside like that... Made a huge mess.
SeattleAgJr
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Doesn't seem like there was really any reason to shoot her inside like that... Made a huge mess.
showrunners said they based it on real life events in how some of these were handled, down to the fact that they (the Russians) knew to have 2 people on each side of her to catch her because people tend to drop to their knees when they learn they are going to be shot. Also the person reading the judgment moves to the side immediately after reading so as to not get blood on themselves.

Also, note that the mop/bucket are there along the wall, in preparation for the shooting.

Those damn Russians were efficient.
salvatore_ditmars
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that was pretty much kgb 101. traitors get a bullet to the back of the brain.
i knew she was done during the silly dream with her leaving. i thought she was going to get it when she was walking down the dark hall with the 3 guards and the leader moved from front to back.

this show is so freakin great.
ellebee
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That was a shock and even though I didn't care all that much for the Nina in Russia storyline, it was still pretty sad. I'm glad Claudia makes an appearance occasionally.
H.E. Pennypacker
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All clean up took was a mop and a bucket. I don't get why people say it was a bad place.
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A bad spot is on your new rug in front of your 4k tv. This was in a room with a hard floor, cinderblock walls, and a metal desk easy to wipe down. Outside of having her stand in front of a freshly dug grave, it was just fine.
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A bad spot is on your new rug in front of your 4k tv. This was in a room with a hard floor, cinderblock walls, and a metal desk easy to wipe down. Outside of having her stand in front of a freshly dug grave, it was just fine.

youd think with all the jokes about our campus looking like 70s soviet architecture, people could appreciate the sparse bldg.
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There was just something so devastating about that scene. She breaks down and barely has time to process it before she's done. While it was quick, it's still a terrible way to go- in a sobbing panic.

I have no doubt the Soviets whacked lots of people that way. I'm sure the Chinese are still at it. Socialism kills.
Zombie Jon Snow
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The Chinese way is even more brutal. IMHO.

Ever seen video of their executions? Out in a field usually and they usually have multiple people lined up. They are kneeling and do it one at a time. So you are just waiting your turn as they come down the line. That's gotta be excruciating as you watch and hear them shot and fall one by one.

N. Korea is pretty much the same way. Except they make you dig your own grave too. But videos of those aren't common.
TexasAggie008
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This show is great and all but I wish they'd show MORE commercials
DeangeloVickers
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Keri Russell must work out
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UNDER PRESSURE!!!!!

greatness.....and wowza even preggo Keri looks great...might have filmed that way early though, not chronological.

SeattleAgJr
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Keri Russell must work out
was not her.
she was pregnant through most of the season filming.

But the stand in model sure has a similar ass like her.
oragator
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Good episode but the Martha thing feels forced, wish that had ended instead of Nina.
They have also taken a deliberate approach this year away from action and intrigue and towards the interpersonal stuff. Wish they could go back to a better balance - every other scene is Paige or Martha crying about something. It's not Dana in homeland bad but feels like it needs a charge a bit.
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I read somewhere there could be a possible setup for Pastor Tim and his wife. It was mentioned how much they look like the drawings the FBI has of Philip and Elizabeth. Could be an easy out to get rid of them.
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Wow, that is a sound theory.
et98
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I read somewhere there could be a possible setup for Pastor Tim and his wife. It was mentioned how much they look like the drawings the FBI has of Philip and Elizabeth. Could be an easy out to get rid of them.

I can't recall what the photos of Philip & Elizabeth look like, but Pastor Tim (especially his hair) looks exactly like the disguise Philip wears from time to time.
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I doubt Paige would stand for that anymore than she would stand for them getting killed.
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I doubt Paige would stand for that anymore than she would stand for them getting killed.

Depending on how it went down, it's possible that those two taking the fall could push her to working for the Russians.
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more then one sketch of them exists....from different disguises









but certainly there could be some resemblances

TriAg2010
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I can't believe Martha hasn't been killed off yet.
TexasAggie008
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Yep

Needs to happen ... More interested in Pastor Tim storyline than this
et98
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She signed her death warrant when she walked out of that house.
oragator
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Yeah I fully expected her to die in this episode. First I expected Gabriel to do it, then Clark - but the fact that he has that gun now isn't a coincidence.
But the frantic search and her ultimate demise should be interesting.
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Finally caught up. Such a good show.

I was ready to kill off Martha last year, but glad they didn't.
SeattleAgJr
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I bet she got that gun from a man named Chekhov!
DeangeloVickers
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My least favorite episode....I want her dead yesterday

Hell, lets talk to the Korean lady
bilbobag
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They will make Martha's death look like a suicide but as long as she's done I won't complain.

Great show.

The pastor Tim and his wife theory is very interesting
Pahdz
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They sure seem to be hinting at that, with Phillip noticing the pills, he's gotta be thinking that's the easy way to end this. But does he want to end it? He has a soft spot for her.
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Martha 2.0 is an upgrade

aTmAg
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I think people are not appreciating the Martha storyline as much as they should.

First of all, she was a killer source. Somebody who planted a bug in the counter intelligence office? That is huge. Secondly, the way in which she was turned was gut wrenching. Taking a woman who is alone and giving her a fake love interest to the point of "marrying" her? That is low, and clearly it tears Phillip up. Could anybody here get themselves to do that to some poor woman? I'd think not. Now Phillip is trying to somehow make things right. It goes to show the ethical boundaries that line of work puts it's employees through. When applying for intelligence work, one of the first things they ask you is, "do you have any ethical problems breaking the laws of foreign countries?" If the answer is yes, then you are pretty much shown the door. Martha represents that unique aspect of intel work that is not seen almost anywhere else.

Secondly, this is not the Sopranos. Killing Martha would be a DISASTER for the Soviets. The Americans would make it widely known throughout the intelligence community that the Soviets use their sources and then kill them when they are done. Every Soviet source in every country would suddenly clam up, and the Soviets would find it extremely difficult to recruit new sources. Phillip, or whoever, would have to kill her and hide her body next to Jimmy Hoffa, but even then our sources within the Soviet government would find out eventually. The Center might look at this as a monumental F-up of epic proportions. Phillip is already in deep crap, if the Martha thing goes even more south, then he'd be in dangerous territory. They might even punish him as an example to save face for their other sources who get scared. On a personal level, having to kill Martha might send him over the deep end too.

I think cutting the Martha story short would be a big time writing mistake. If anything, they should do and have done a better job explaining Martha's importance and how deep crap they are in at the moment.
 
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