Kiddoc, you said that the Walmart site shows where you can get Paxlovid.

I have looked at that site since Walmart first published it. I could be missing something, but the site lists stores that have had shipments of Paxlovid, but it does not indicate if the drug is currently in stock.

The following are the two sites I check every day. More useful than Walmart's site, because they cover Walmart, Walgreens, and HEB, and they indicate how many courses of medication are actually available:

https://covid-19-therapeutics-locator-dhhs.hub.arcgis.com/

On this one you can check for supplies of Paxlovid and Sotrovimab as well as the Merck pill and Evusheld, which is for the immunosuppressed:

https://tdem.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=993e2c2079f8487cafcec74e00e84991


There are not very many courses of Paxlovid available in the Austin area at neighborhood HEB, Walgreens, and Walmart.

I notice that in both Austin and San Antonio, the vast majority of the allotments of Paxlovid are located at Wellness Centers in underserved communities.

Awesome links thanks so much.

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OldArmy71 said:

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The CDC does have a protocol for early treatment of non-hospitalized patients:

Early treatment protocol

These are the recommendations:




The major problem is that both Sotrovimab and Paxlovid are essentially unavailable.

Again, the Biden people have known about Sotrovimab for over a month and have done nothing. Nothing has been done to mass produce Paxlovid.
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I just don't think there's anything these companies can do to ramp up production on a months notice. Assuming that is the government's fault just feels like looking for an excuse to rant about the government. Do we know what the supply chain of these drugs are? Do we know what the manufacturing process of these drugs are? Do we know how much technical work it takes to ramp up production. For all we know these drugs are being made at max capacity and ramping up production may requires months or years due to technical or supply limitations. That's not something a government can simply wish into existence. So unless you have evidence that theirs a ton of excess capacity for these two teatments that could have been ramped up on a dime then it's not really the government's fault. I know there isn't excess capacity, because these companies would have loved to bring more product to market in this demand environment. It's just the realities of a pandemic - one that many of you have continually downplayed over and over again.

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I'm in supply chain / production for a medical device company. Suppliers have been exercising force majeure on all components needed to make various drugs and vaccines for two years. We can't get anything we need because it is all being rediverted to the government. Most recently, it's been diverted for the new Pfizer anti-viral pills. Prior to that it was diverted for the rollout of the vaccine to children.

Trust me....the government can take what they want. If they don't have what they need to produce the new monoclonal treatment it's because they don't want to and haven't tried.

If...

• NYC just didn't handle it correctly
• and covid is just the flu
• and Sweden took the right approach
• and HCQ is the cure and is cheap and widely available
• and the only people who die are old
• and the only people who die have like 4 comorbidities
• and we shouldn't take new medications that were rushed
• and the only people who die are fatties
• and people are just dying with covid, not of covid
• and ivermectin is the cure and is cheap and widely available
• and natural immunity is the answer
• and new medications are just ways for big pharma to line their pockets

Why the hell do you contrarians want the government pissing away money on these new expensive treatments.

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Why the hell do you contrarians want the government pissing away money on these new expensive treatments.

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Well, we don't want them to piss away money......

But 1) they're gonna spend it and 2) "if it saves just one life"

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Another Doug said:

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Why the hell do you contrarians want the government pissing away money on these new expensive treatments.

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Well, we don't want them to piss away money......

But 1) they're gonna spend it and 2) "if it saves just one life"

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Typical logic of contrarians.,,
We should both do nothing and everything, but whatever we have done is wrong.

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Sandman98 said:

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-Austin suburb
-80 year old with type 2 but thin and functional.
-Turned away from the hospital because pulse/ox of 90 wasn't low enough
-Admitted two days later with Covid pneumonia before he could take monoclonal antibodies that were ordered. It will be a miracle if he makes it.

Are we really turning people away because their pulse/ox isn't below 90? An 80 year old with co-morbidities?

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A Colorado ER sent my Class of "18" son home back in October with his oxygen at 79% after they discovered he wasn't vaxxed. Gave him a oxygen bottle and refused to give him antibodies because they stated he wasn't over 65 years old. Twenty four hours later was admitted to ICU after returning back to ER. Three weeks later we were blessed he left the hospital. Tell me there isn't a conspiracy!

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There isn't a conspiracy. Rationing of scarce healthcare resources is what happens when so many people get sick at the same time.

I am glad your son got out of the ICU and hope he is still doing well but this is what happens when there isn't enough treatments to go around.

You don't send someone home with their oxygen at 79%. Colorado is a democrat controlled state and had different treatment than most of Texas. Amazing wife and I were on Rev's vitamins since this started and used the horse paste with great results back in April of last year. We contacted it a second time at the beginning of December and received the antibodies and used Ivermectin again good results. The answer is yes we are not vaxxed.

Pretty much everyone with COVID symptoms gets asked if they've been vaccinated at most ERs.

Regarding the OP, it's not uncommon for elderly people to dip into the low 90s, especially when sick. He should've had an ambulatory pulse ox taken and seen what happens. But like someone else said, you can't admit everyone. Insurance just won't pay for it unless you meet admission criteria, and unless you're actually hypoxic, you don't meet admission criteria. Sometimes you can get them in for something else, but you have to have the hospitalist on board. And you can't keep asking the hospitalist to squeeze in one more, and then another one.

Regarding the 79% O2 saturation and getting sent home. The only way I can imagine that is if they had absolutely no room for him. That shouldn't have happened. That being said, he did get sick in October. He had ample time to get the vaccine. I'm wondering if he still thinks it was worth it to not get vaccinated - both for his own health and for his wallet.

I can't believe people are still not getting vaccinated. We've seen multiple people on this board in their 30's and 40's that have said they were very healthy, and they ended up in the ICU - despite the vitamin cocktail and ivermectin they've been on.

bigtruckguy3500 said:

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Pretty much everyone with COVID symptoms gets asked if they've been vaccinated at most ERs.

Regarding the OP, it's not uncommon for elderly people to dip into the low 90s, especially when sick. He should've had an ambulatory pulse ox taken and seen what happens. But like someone else said, you can't admit everyone. Insurance just won't pay for it unless you meet admission criteria, and unless you're actually hypoxic, you don't meet admission criteria. Sometimes you can get them in for something else, but you have to have the hospitalist on board. And you can't keep asking the hospitalist to squeeze in one more, and then another one.

Regarding the 79% O2 saturation and getting sent home. The only way I can imagine that is if they had absolutely no room for him. That shouldn't have happened. That being said, he did get sick in October. He had ample time to get the vaccine. I'm wondering if he still thinks it was worth it to not get vaccinated - both for his own health and for his wallet.

I can't believe people are still not getting vaccinated. We've seen multiple people on this board in their 30's and 40's that have said they were very healthy, and they ended up in the ICU - despite the vitamin cocktail and ivermectin they've been on.

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He wasn't on the vitamin cocktail or ivermectin. He was a 25 yr old that thought he was bulletproof. As far as your vaccine I know of two personally that have passed that were vaxxed also and thought they were bulletproof too. Can't believe people will continue to trust your government and take shot after shot. Remember just one shot and you will be fine. Then another and another…………

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Sandman98 said:

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-Austin suburb
-80 year old with type 2 but thin and functional.
-Turned away from the hospital because pulse/ox of 90 wasn't low enough
-Admitted two days later with Covid pneumonia before he could take monoclonal antibodies that were ordered. It will be a miracle if he makes it.

Are we really turning people away because their pulse/ox isn't below 90? An 80 year old with co-morbidities?

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A Colorado ER sent my Class of "18" son home back in October with his oxygen at 79% after they discovered he wasn't vaxxed. Gave him a oxygen bottle and refused to give him antibodies because they stated he wasn't over 65 years old. Twenty four hours later was admitted to ICU after returning back to ER. Three weeks later we were blessed he left the hospital. Tell me there isn't a conspiracy!

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Typical story. And so disgusting. If your son had died, would they have even cared? Just sad and troubling the light that has been shed on "healthcare". Glad your son is okay.