Why Should I Get the Booster?

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Can someone provide studies why I should get the booster? Family is highly encouraging me to do so, Im middle aged and in good health, but looking for facts to support why I should get it.

And if so, which one should I get? Received two shots of Pfizer.
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I am mid 50's and got the booster of Moderna because it is my original shot. Don't know if antibody actually mean anything but after first 2 shots only around 850. Took the booster to get over 2500. I would stick to the original shot. Also, in fairly good shape and active.
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tb9665 said:

I am mid 50's and got the booster of Moderna because it is my original shot. Don't know if antibody actually mean anything but after first 2 shots only around 850. Took the booster to get over 2500. I would stick to the original shot. Also, in fairly good shape and active.
What test did you take to see those numbers?
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tb9665 said:

I am mid 50's and got the booster of Moderna because it is my original shot. Don't know if antibody actually mean anything but after first 2 shots only around 850. Took the booster to get over 2500. I would stick to the original shot. Also, in fairly good shape and active.


Getting the booster does not mean you will get over 2500. If your numbers were at 850 it is more likely your body will respond in the same way and shed the vacinne faster like before
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Texas Cares Antibody Study is where I got my results. Forgot to say I have not had Covid.
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Labcorp also does antibody testing without a doc prescription.
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88planoAg said:

Labcorp also does antibody testing without a doc prescription.


Is it a good, reliable test? Is it called something special on their site or just covid antibody?
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Aggie95 said:

88planoAg said:

Labcorp also does antibody testing without a doc prescription.


Is it a good, reliable test? Is it called something special on their site or just covid antibody?


I did the labcorp in November, just through their website as covid antibody test.

Mine just gave me antibody levels, I think there is another one that can distinguish previous infection antibodies vs vaccine antibodies, but I could be way wrong on that.
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Thanks for this, I am looking for an antibody test that distinguishes between vaccine and infection antibodies. Was looking at LabCorp but sounds like they don't do that. Not in TX or else would have done the study.
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setsmachine said:

Thanks for this, I am looking for an antibody test that distinguishes between vaccine and infection antibodies. Was looking at LabCorp but sounds like they don't do that. Not in TX or else would have done the study.


I only got one # but haven't had the vaccine so a non issue for me. I'm out of the study after having all 3 draws.

I imagine you could go to a doc and ask for those specifics - might be expensive but should be available.
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I would not get the booster, unless you're in one of the most vulnerable groups.

I'm not sure the shots do anything besides potentially reduce symptoms. My wife and I were just fully vaccinated (2 Moderna shots) in October, and still got covid this past week. If the original vaccines aren't even good for 2 months, Im really not seeing the reason to get boosters every few months.

At this point I'd just risk getting covid and getting it over with.
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I went in last week for my annual physical. My doc has been our family doc for 30 years. He is an Aggie and I trust him.
He said he and many docs he knows are seeing lots of patients that have some kind of issues if they had Covid ... mild cases or severe. These issues are all over the place... heart, neurological, hearing, skin problems, permanent hair loss, permanent taste and smell loss, intestinal issues etc.
He said 100% of the ones he is treating for these issues did not get the vaccine.
He is not a vaccine mandate guy, nor does he push the vaccines on his patients ( he left it up to us) but he did say that he thought the risk and benefits of the vaccine and boosters by far outweigh what long term bad effects you can have from getting Covid.... which he says he is seeing more and more in his patients who were unvaccinated and had Covid.
Worth thinking about.
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We've been getting tested with the Texas Cares Antibody study.

I got both doses of Pfizer in March of 2021.

In August my antibody test showed a Spike Protein level of 216 and a Natural Protein level of Zero (so I hadn't had Covid).

Then I had the booster in October.

In November my antibody test showed a Spike Protein level of >2500. The Natural Protein level was still zero.


I just tested positive for Covid today, but honestly other than the aching (which isn't severe, but more like I've overdone a day of yard work or something), it isn't much of anything. I've run a low-grade fever and have a light sniffle and have coughed a handful of times. It's like the lightest flu I've ever experienced so far.
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ocling said:

Can someone provide studies why I should get the booster? Family is highly encouraging me to do so, Im middle aged and in good health, but looking for facts to support why I should get it.

And if so, which one should I get? Received two shots of Pfizer.
How are you defining middle age?
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Thinking about just doing the Labcorp on my own. I asked my doctor and she said:

"There is a COVID antibody test but it is not recommended or covered by insurance
At this time, the antibody test is mostly used for research purposes"

I have 2 moderna shots and a possible Omicron/Covid infection within the last month. I would like to check antibody level before getting booster.
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It's useful if you know what your levels were before, or if you won't get a booster if you're above a certain level.

I had mine checked in November and didn't get the booster. Got covid over Christmas and had one day of feeling tired/achy and a cough, then allergy symptoms for a few days. Same with everyone in my family.
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txaggie_08 said:

I would not get the booster, unless you're in one of the most vulnerable groups.

I'm not sure the shots do anything besides potentially reduce symptoms. My wife and I were just fully vaccinated (2 Moderna shots) in October, and still got covid this past week. If the original vaccines aren't even good for 2 months, Im really not seeing the reason to get boosters every few months.

At this point I'd just risk getting covid and getting it over with.

I don't feel like there is any proof that boosters improve your chances with Covid. Yes, it makes your spike protein antibody count shoot up, but if it is not close enough to stop the infection what is the point? Also, isn't having a bunch of non-neutralizing antibodies tied to the Antibody Dependent Enhancement they were worried about when these vaccines came out?
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Anecdotally, I haven't seen any benefit to the booster against omicron.
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Coates said:



I did the labcorp in November, just through their website as covid antibody test.

Mine just gave me antibody levels, I think there is another one that can distinguish previous infection antibodies vs vaccine antibodies, but I could be way wrong on that.
Any Lab Test Now does an antibody test that distinguishes between vaccine-induced and infection-induced antibodies. https://www.anylabtestnow.com/boerne-78006/tests/coronavirus-covid-19-igm-iga-igg-antibody-test/
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Gunny456 said:

I went in last week for my annual physical. My doc has been our family doc for 30 years. He is an Aggie and I trust him.
He said he and many docs he knows are seeing lots of patients that have some kind of issues if they had Covid ... mild cases or severe. These issues are all over the place... heart, neurological, hearing, skin problems, permanent hair loss, permanent taste and smell loss, intestinal issues etc.
He said 100% of the ones he is treating for these issues did not get the vaccine.
He is not a vaccine mandate guy, nor does he push the vaccines on his patients ( he left it up to us) but he did say that he thought the risk and benefits of the vaccine and boosters by far outweigh what long term bad effects you can have from getting Covid.... which he says he is seeing more and more in his patients who were unvaccinated and had Covid.
Worth thinking about.
I have seen hundreds of articles (not mainstream media, of course, because they avoid any negative covid coverage at all costs) showing vaccinated individuals around the world still get sick and get admitted to hospitals just like everyone else. In addition, vaccines and herd immunity seem to be ineffective against Omicron.

At this point, I'm starting to suspect doctors are getting paid to push the vaccines onto everyone. I went to my general practitioner's office a few months back for my yearly well check, and he had an article from the local newspaper hanging in his office with signatures of hundreds of local doctor that signed in agreement with the article.

It basically said "we are doctors and we know more than you and can assure you that the information out there questioning the vaccines is false information."

The article gave no analysis or evidence supporting their claims. It was just more "trust the science" with no actual proof. The problem is, we are doing our own research that shows too many issues with the vaccines or successful alternative treatments that are working and documented that they are working.

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AgBandsman said:

Gunny456 said:

I went in last week for my annual physical. My doc has been our family doc for 30 years. He is an Aggie and I trust him.
He said he and many docs he knows are seeing lots of patients that have some kind of issues if they had Covid ... mild cases or severe. These issues are all over the place... heart, neurological, hearing, skin problems, permanent hair loss, permanent taste and smell loss, intestinal issues etc.
He said 100% of the ones he is treating for these issues did not get the vaccine.
He is not a vaccine mandate guy, nor does he push the vaccines on his patients ( he left it up to us) but he did say that he thought the risk and benefits of the vaccine and boosters by far outweigh what long term bad effects you can have from getting Covid.... which he says he is seeing more and more in his patients who were unvaccinated and had Covid.
Worth thinking about.
I have seen hundreds of articles (not mainstream media, of course, because they avoid any negative covid coverage at all costs) showing vaccinated individuals around the world still get sick and get admitted to hospitals just like everyone else. In addition, vaccines and herd immunity seem to be ineffective against Omicron.

At this point, I'm starting to suspect doctors are getting paid to push the vaccines onto everyone. I went to my general practitioner's office a few months back for my yearly well check, and he had an article from the local newspaper hanging in his office with signatures of hundreds of local doctor that signed in agreement with the article.

It basically said "we are doctors and we know more than you and can assure you that the information out there questioning the vaccines is false information."

The article gave no analysis or evidence supporting their claims. It was just more "trust the science" with no actual proof. The problem is, we are doing our own research that shows too many issues with the vaccines or successful alternative treatments that are working and documented that they are working.

I would like some of this vaccine money please.
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From what I can tell, anyone who had covid shouldn't bother with either. Anyone low risk and vaccinated shouldn't bother with a booster. Anyone high risk should get the booster
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I would get the booster because anything to boost your immune system before exposure is likely a good thing. Can't guarantee you won't catch Omicron, but it will likely make the disease less severe.

Anecdotally, my fully vaccinated and boosted SO caught COVID 1.5 weeks ago. She was in very close contact with ~10 people (including me) - all vaccinated and boosted. I never isolated from her after her diagnosis. None of those 10 people caught COVID from her. Lots of negative covid tests to support that.

Her symptoms were very mild. Anything you can do to make the disease more mild and/or potentially not catch it is something worth doing. Both for yourself and your community.
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Gunny456 said:

I went in last week for my annual physical. My doc has been our family doc for 30 years. He is an Aggie and I trust him.
He said he and many docs he knows are seeing lots of patients that have some kind of issues if they had Covid ... mild cases or severe. These issues are all over the place... heart, neurological, hearing, skin problems, permanent hair loss, permanent taste and smell loss, intestinal issues etc.
He said 100% of the ones he is treating for these issues did not get the vaccine.
He is not a vaccine mandate guy, nor does he push the vaccines on his patients ( he left it up to us) but he did say that he thought the risk and benefits of the vaccine and boosters by far outweigh what long term bad effects you can have from getting Covid.... which he says he is seeing more and more in his patients who were unvaccinated and had Covid.
Worth thinking about.

Covid + unvax leads to possibly any and every sickness ever? I don't mean to offend but these posts and comments from medical professionals continue to read and sound like a pamphlet for an acupuncturist or reflexologist. Don't chiropractors fix all of those symptoms too? Look I'm a fan if of alternative medicine, cause if it works for you and you're paying for it great, but if our healthcare professionals cannot communicate the difference between correlation and causation and refrain from from using such hyperbole they may find themselves on the wrong side of the public trust.
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We were a perfectly healthy society before covid.
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Ha, indeed but the blame was always better defined and population less socially acceptable.
If you weren't a smoker and got lung cancer, sorry but the odds of life just gave you a bad roll. But if you are/were smoker, you and you're choices were the cause.

Now we are pointing fingers using vaccinations and boosters. Demonizing those that don't participate in our social norms. Just like we did with smokers in the 90s and 00s and we did with homosexuals and AIDS in the 80s.
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AgBandsman said:

Gunny456 said:

I went in last week for my annual physical. My doc has been our family doc for 30 years. He is an Aggie and I trust him.
He said he and many docs he knows are seeing lots of patients that have some kind of issues if they had Covid ... mild cases or severe. These issues are all over the place... heart, neurological, hearing, skin problems, permanent hair loss, permanent taste and smell loss, intestinal issues etc.
He said 100% of the ones he is treating for these issues did not get the vaccine.
He is not a vaccine mandate guy, nor does he push the vaccines on his patients ( he left it up to us) but he did say that he thought the risk and benefits of the vaccine and boosters by far outweigh what long term bad effects you can have from getting Covid.... which he says he is seeing more and more in his patients who were unvaccinated and had Covid.
Worth thinking about.
I have seen hundreds of articles (not mainstream media, of course, because they avoid any negative covid coverage at all costs) showing vaccinated individuals around the world still get sick and get admitted to hospitals just like everyone else. In addition, vaccines and herd immunity seem to be ineffective against Omicron.

At this point, I'm starting to suspect doctors are getting paid to push the vaccines onto everyone. I went to my general practitioner's office a few months back for my yearly well check, and he had an article from the local newspaper hanging in his office with signatures of hundreds of local doctor that signed in agreement with the article.

It basically said "we are doctors and we know more than you and can assure you that the information out there questioning the vaccines is false information."

The article gave no analysis or evidence supporting their claims. It was just more "trust the science" with no actual proof. The problem is, we are doing our own research that shows too many issues with the vaccines or successful alternative treatments that are working and documented that they are working.


Yet you don't post any proof of your comments? Where exactly are these "articles" posted?
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its not severe to begin with...

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Gunny456 said:

I went in last week for my annual physical. My doc has been our family doc for 30 years. He is an Aggie and I trust him.
He said he and many docs he knows are seeing lots of patients that have some kind of issues if they had Covid ... mild cases or severe. These issues are all over the place... heart, neurological, hearing, skin problems, permanent hair loss, permanent taste and smell loss, intestinal issues etc.
He said 100% of the ones he is treating for these issues did not get the vaccine.
He is not a vaccine mandate guy, nor does he push the vaccines on his patients ( he left it up to us) but he did say that he thought the risk and benefits of the vaccine and boosters by far outweigh what long term bad effects you can have from getting Covid.... which he says he is seeing more and more in his patients who were unvaccinated and had Covid.
Worth thinking about.
I actually appreciate this post. Thanks man. I'm on the fence on the booster and where I live it's been changed to 4 months instead of 6 months which seemed arbitrary.

I do wish the healthcare establishment, CDC (ConDescension Complex) and the MSM would admit however that the vaccines do nothing to stop the spread.

Vaccines have no consequential effect on infection and spread and needs to stop being preached. And those that preached it need their comeuppance or admit they were wrong in a public forum and apologize.
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bay fan said:

AgBandsman said:

Gunny456 said:

I went in last week for my annual physical. My doc has been our family doc for 30 years. He is an Aggie and I trust him.
He said he and many docs he knows are seeing lots of patients that have some kind of issues if they had Covid ... mild cases or severe. These issues are all over the place... heart, neurological, hearing, skin problems, permanent hair loss, permanent taste and smell loss, intestinal issues etc.
He said 100% of the ones he is treating for these issues did not get the vaccine.
He is not a vaccine mandate guy, nor does he push the vaccines on his patients ( he left it up to us) but he did say that he thought the risk and benefits of the vaccine and boosters by far outweigh what long term bad effects you can have from getting Covid.... which he says he is seeing more and more in his patients who were unvaccinated and had Covid.
Worth thinking about.
I have seen hundreds of articles (not mainstream media, of course, because they avoid any negative covid coverage at all costs) showing vaccinated individuals around the world still get sick and get admitted to hospitals just like everyone else. In addition, vaccines and herd immunity seem to be ineffective against Omicron.

At this point, I'm starting to suspect doctors are getting paid to push the vaccines onto everyone. I went to my general practitioner's office a few months back for my yearly well check, and he had an article from the local newspaper hanging in his office with signatures of hundreds of local doctor that signed in agreement with the article.

It basically said "we are doctors and we know more than you and can assure you that the information out there questioning the vaccines is false information."

The article gave no analysis or evidence supporting their claims. It was just more "trust the science" with no actual proof. The problem is, we are doing our own research that shows too many issues with the vaccines or successful alternative treatments that are working and documented that they are working.


Yet you don't post any proof of your comments? Where exactly are these "articles" posted?
And when did you ever post 100% undeniable proof that masks work while preaching it no this forum? Stones, glass houses.
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It's probably too late to get the booster.
94chem,
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ocling said:

Can someone provide studies why I should get the booster? Family is highly encouraging me to do so, Im middle aged and in good health, but looking for facts to support why I should get it.

And if so, which one should I get? Received two shots of Pfizer.


Just to clarify, it's not THE booster shot, it's A booster shot. You are debating whether to get a 3rd shot, I assume, when there's already people getting a 4th. Just say no.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/03/israel-covid-booster-fourth-dose-60/
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snowdog90 said:

ocling said:

Can someone provide studies why I should get the booster? Family is highly encouraging me to do so, Im middle aged and in good health, but looking for facts to support why I should get it.

And if so, which one should I get? Received two shots of Pfizer.


Just to clarify, it's not THE booster shot, it's A booster shot. You are debating whether to get a 3rd shot, I assume, when there's already people getting a 4th. Just say no.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/03/israel-covid-booster-fourth-dose-60/


I highly doubt the poster in question lives in Israel.
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Salute The Marines said:

snowdog90 said:

ocling said:

Can someone provide studies why I should get the booster? Family is highly encouraging me to do so, Im middle aged and in good health, but looking for facts to support why I should get it.

And if so, which one should I get? Received two shots of Pfizer.


Just to clarify, it's not THE booster shot, it's A booster shot. You are debating whether to get a 3rd shot, I assume, when there's already people getting a 4th. Just say no.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/03/israel-covid-booster-fourth-dose-60/


I highly doubt the poster in question lives in Israel.


This took 5 seconds to find.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/covid-19-booster-shots-will-i-need-a-fourth-vaccine-dose/

"White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci has said that a fourth jab is a possibility in the US, too."
Teslag
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You said people were already getting it. Now you link an article where you say it's a possibility.
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