It's far more safe to take any available vaccine now.

Milwaukees Best Light said:

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Why do yall favor this Nova over the others? I am not up to speed on it.

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It's more in line with the traditional Protein Subunit vaccines. My limited knowledge of the product is that Novavax has put a very small piece, or slice, of the spike protein (not the entire spike) onto ferritin nanoparticles which is then administered via injection. The neutralizing antibody response has been demonstrated to be very high with the Novavax product.

stetson said:

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Apparently, it is a traditional vaxx that contains the virus, rather than using mRNA.

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This is not correct. It is a protein subunit vaccine.

They use a genetically baculovirus to infect moth cells. The protein is expressed, recovered, and purified.

The purified protein is assembled into nanoparticles and is injected as a vaccine along with an adjuvant extracted from trees.

The last article I read about the status indicated that they are having trouble with purity - which, when you scale up a process like this, is a very common problem.

Rex Racer said:

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ToroBueno said:

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Guys

I am considering taking the Novavax when it presumably clears EUA in Q1 2022.

Anybody have any thoughts on the safety of this vaccine both long and short term?

thanks

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I have been waiting on this one, as well. I'm riding out my natural immunity until such time as Novavax is available.

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Me too....I am just not comfortable turning my body into a spike protein factory either through the mrna vax's or the viral vector adenovirus platforms (JJ and AZ).

While I think the expression of the S protein (spike) is safer delivered in the lipid nanoparticle platform vs expression from our muscular, endothelial (blood vessel) and other cells in our bodies (yes the Japanese have proven spike protein dispersion throughout the body post jab), I still have some ) concern about putting into my body a cytotoxic spike protein of any form.....although I have to remind myself that that its not the full spike protein....just the sub-unit of the antigenic protein profile.

Nonetheless, there are at least two vectors of concern here for me with the Novavax: 1. the subunit spike protein itself....is its possible that it could invoke myocarditis or pericarditis? and 2. does the one dimensional aspect of the vaccine - ie only targeting the spike protein - limit any natural immunity, whether it be mucosal or otherwise, to only the spike protein and not a broader profile of the pathogen? ie other nucleotides, peptides, etc..

I posted a separate question on this referencing a Medrx preprint (not peer reviewed yet) but got no takers or responses.

As I am not a Dr or clinically trained in any way (I am an accountant), I was hoping someone that is accordingly trained could shed some light on my concerns.

At any rate, before you do get jabbed, consider doing a pre-vax routine before you stick a needle in you. There are quite a few protocols out there on the interwebs. Maybe check out ScreenB4UVaccine protocol to start with. I certainly will do this before I get any shot.

All the best!

ToroBueno said:

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Rex Racer said:

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ToroBueno said:

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Guys

I am considering taking the Novavax when it presumably clears EUA in Q1 2022.

Anybody have any thoughts on the safety of this vaccine both long and short term?

thanks

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I have been waiting on this one, as well. I'm riding out my natural immunity until such time as Novavax is available.

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Me too....I am just not comfortable turning my body into a spike protein factory either through the mrna vax's or the viral vector adenovirus platforms (JJ and AZ)

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I mean that's basically what the virus does to you - except it's completely uncontrolled with a virus.

This idea of bodies becoming "spike protein factories" needs to die.

Vaccinated people do not make an infinite amount of spike protein. A known/fixed amount of mRNA is contained within the vaccine. mRNA degrades very quickly - on the order of hours to maybe a day or two. Our bodies do not make copies of the mRNA in the vaccine. They simply use the mRNA in the vaccine to make a finite amount of spike protein. And like other "invaders", the spike protein is identified and destroyed by body's immune system, which takes around a couple of weeks.

What kind of web forum would this be if it weren't just an echo chamber for people to continue to share false information, which they probably originally read here?

htxag09 said:

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What kind of web forum would this be if it weren't just an echo chamber for people to continue to share false information, which they probably originally read here?

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You know much less about this than you think. You know what you've been told, yet you speak with such condescension and like you have all the information. For your sake you hope you're right. I've taken my chances and have done just fine. I won't say that my views are correct or beyond challenge, but I'm not so consumed with "scientific" arrogance to believe that I know everything.

And flagged and banned.