JFrench said:

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tomtomdrumdrum said:

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JFrench said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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A is A said:

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V8Aggie said:

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Seemed to work for both my parents in their 70's both of which are medical professionals.

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I'm happy your parents both did well, but I have no reason to believe based on the current evidence that the ivermectin had anything to do with it. They recovered most likely because they were always going to recover.

My only point with the original post was to point out how extra silly this particular anecdote was given that Rodgers, unlike your parents, has virtually no chance of dying from covid regardless of what he is treated with. You can count the number of young professional athletes who have died from COVID globally on two hands. They have so much pulmonary reserve and such robust end organ function that it's just not likely to happen.

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because you dont want to believe. its an agenda to you and half this board to discredit a cheap and effective drug.

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It's simply because I understand that anecdotal data is not meaningful in assessing efficacy, especially for a low mortality illness

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Why the vaccines then? For Aaron Rogers and the other 99.8% of the world

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I'm assuming this argument is in response to him saying "low mortality illness." A small percentage, when applied to a large group of people, can result in what is considered a large number.

A small percentage chance, when applied to a single person, is still a small percentage chance.

Vaccination brings the large number of deaths and serious illness down. Anecdotal stories of ivermectin usage for individuals do not prove that the small percentage chance of serious illness for that individual went down.

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When the number is 99.8% it could all be anecdotal.

I'll go for the old, fat, and diabetic. That's probably 99.8% of the .2%

When I got it there weren't vaccines or therapeutics. I drank beer for 2 weeks. Just as effective as the jab or horse paste for me.

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tomtomdrumdrum said:

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JFrench said:

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tomtomdrumdrum said:

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JFrench said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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A is A said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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V8Aggie said:

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Seemed to work for both my parents in their 70's both of which are medical professionals.

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I'm happy your parents both did well, but I have no reason to believe based on the current evidence that the ivermectin had anything to do with it. They recovered most likely because they were always going to recover.

My only point with the original post was to point out how extra silly this particular anecdote was given that Rodgers, unlike your parents, has virtually no chance of dying from covid regardless of what he is treated with. You can count the number of young professional athletes who have died from COVID globally on two hands. They have so much pulmonary reserve and such robust end organ function that it's just not likely to happen.

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because you dont want to believe. its an agenda to you and half this board to discredit a cheap and effective drug.

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It's simply because I understand that anecdotal data is not meaningful in assessing efficacy, especially for a low mortality illness

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Why the vaccines then? For Aaron Rogers and the other 99.8% of the world

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I'm assuming this argument is in response to him saying "low mortality illness." A small percentage, when applied to a large group of people, can result in what is considered a large number.

A small percentage chance, when applied to a single person, is still a small percentage chance.

Vaccination brings the large number of deaths and serious illness down. Anecdotal stories of ivermectin usage for individuals do not prove that the small percentage chance of serious illness for that individual went down.

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When the number is 99.8% it could all be anecdotal.

I'll go for the old, fat, and diabetic. That's probably 99.8% of the .2%

When I got it there weren't vaccines or therapeutics. I drank beer for 2 weeks. Just as effective as the jab or horse paste for me.

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iT cOuLd AlL bE aNeCdOtAl

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JFrench said:

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tomtomdrumdrum said:

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JFrench said:

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tomtomdrumdrum said:

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JFrench said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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A is A said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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V8Aggie said:

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Seemed to work for both my parents in their 70's both of which are medical professionals.

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I'm happy your parents both did well, but I have no reason to believe based on the current evidence that the ivermectin had anything to do with it. They recovered most likely because they were always going to recover.

My only point with the original post was to point out how extra silly this particular anecdote was given that Rodgers, unlike your parents, has virtually no chance of dying from covid regardless of what he is treated with. You can count the number of young professional athletes who have died from COVID globally on two hands. They have so much pulmonary reserve and such robust end organ function that it's just not likely to happen.

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because you dont want to believe. its an agenda to you and half this board to discredit a cheap and effective drug.

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It's simply because I understand that anecdotal data is not meaningful in assessing efficacy, especially for a low mortality illness

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Why the vaccines then? For Aaron Rogers and the other 99.8% of the world

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I'm assuming this argument is in response to him saying "low mortality illness." A small percentage, when applied to a large group of people, can result in what is considered a large number.

A small percentage chance, when applied to a single person, is still a small percentage chance.

Vaccination brings the large number of deaths and serious illness down. Anecdotal stories of ivermectin usage for individuals do not prove that the small percentage chance of serious illness for that individual went down.

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When the number is 99.8% it could all be anecdotal.

I'll go for the old, fat, and diabetic. That's probably 99.8% of the .2%

When I got it there weren't vaccines or therapeutics. I drank beer for 2 weeks. Just as effective as the jab or horse paste for me.

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Big blanket chart there.

Two of those countries don't have access to our vaccines. Edit do any of them?

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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amercer said:

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"Ivermectin works!"*


*when combined with actual drugs that treat Covid

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And when taken by a young, elite professional athlete with high aerobic capacity who has virtually no baseline risk of severe disease to begin with

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What about mid-forties guy who isn't an elite athlete? Not sure if it helped me or not. But my doctor prescribed it to me along with Hydroxycloroquine, and I survived...as did my wife on same prescriptions.

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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aggierogue said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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aggierogue said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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amercer said:

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"Ivermectin works!"*


*when combined with actual drugs that treat Covid

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And when taken by a young, elite professional athlete with high aerobic capacity who has virtually no baseline risk of severe disease to begin with

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What about mid-forties guy who isn't an elite athlete? Not sure if it helped me or not. But my doctor prescribed it to me along with Hydroxycloroquine, and I survived...as did my wife on same prescriptions.

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Statistically well above 99% of people in their 40s will survive COVID, even without taking out any of the highest risk groups in that demographic. The overall mortality doesn't cross 1% until around retirement age.

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Right. So why is Fauci, the CDC, and all the political leaders pushing for mandates? Why is Fauci advocating for infants and children to get vaccinated? If the answer is to save grandma and grandpa, and grandma and grandpa are free to get vaccinated, it doesn't make much sense to push for mandates. Especially when you consider that my vaccinated breakthrough case friends carry the same viral load that I did when I contracted it.

Basically, if this is a nothingburger for elite-athlete Aaron and for all of us 40s and younger, then the CDC, FDA, Fauci, and politicians need to stop with the mandate talk and let's get back to living our lives. Agree?

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I've been critical of mandates in general all along. I think I get labeled as someone who supports them because I try and correct false information that many also in opposition to mandates tout. Arguing that the vaccines are safe = supporting all vaccine mandates to many on this site.

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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AgDad121619 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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amercer said:

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"Ivermectin works!"*


*when combined with actual drugs that treat Covid

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And when taken by a young, elite professional athlete with high aerobic capacity who has virtually no baseline risk of severe disease to begin with

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it is almost like young healthy adults don't need anything to get over CoVid. Go figure

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Almost everyone like Aaron Rodgers will be fine regardless of what they do should they get COVID, yes. And that fact is completely irrelevant to every discussion regarding COVID other than the ones centered around vaccine and testing policies of various sports leagues.

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