I found this "fact check" rather humorous. It states as a fact that "a vaccinated person is not wrong to believe an unvaccinated person can be a threat to their health".


https://repustar.com/fact-briefs/is-a-vaccinated-person-wrong-to-believe-an-unvaccinated-person-can-be-a-threat-to-their-health


Okay, fine. But, if a vaccinated person thinks an unvaccinated person is a "threat to their health", then they must logically conclude that another vaccinated person is a "threat to their health" since both vaccinated and unvaccinated have similar viral loads. "Everyone is a threat to your health" is an unhealthy way to view your neighbors.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.31.21261387v1

https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-similar-between-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people

But, less chance of the vaccinated having viral loads, since less likely to be infected.

I couldn't imagine being vaccinated and not living like it's 2019.

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But, less chance of the vaccinated having viral loads, since less likely to be infected.

I couldn't imagine being vaccinated and not living like it's 2019.

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The effectiveness of Pfizer falls to 50% after 6 months. In order to assess how fearful you should be of your neighbors, you must know when they were last jabbed. The safest bet is to be in constant fear of everyone ... forever. What could go wrong?

So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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Why does he think the vax game him these spots?

NicosMachine said:

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ORAggieFan said:

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But, less chance of the vaccinated having viral loads, since less likely to be infected.

I couldn't imagine being vaccinated and not living like it's 2019.

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The effectiveness of Pfizer falls to 50% after 6 months. In order to assess how fearful you should be of your neighbors, you must know when they were last jabbed. The safest bet is to be in constant fear of everyone ... forever. What could go wrong?

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You are no better than those that overreact to COVID.

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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Why does he think the vax game him these spots?

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so heres the rest of the story.... hes never had any type of cancer in his life..

so he got the vaccine about 5 months ago and then got a very severe case of Covid about 4 weeks later after taking the vaccine. he recovered but never fully recovered, he keeps getting flu like symptom stuff every few weeks. His Dr was keeping an eye on him. This week the Dr orders chest Xrays again (2nd round) and see's spot on his lungs and says this doesn't look good we need to send you in for a CT scan... here we are today, hes literally crapping his pants

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NicosMachine said:

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But, less chance of the vaccinated having viral loads, since less likely to be infected.

I couldn't imagine being vaccinated and not living like it's 2019.

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The effectiveness of Pfizer falls to 50% after 6 months. In order to assess how fearful you should be of your neighbors, you must know when they were last jabbed. The safest bet is to be in constant fear of everyone ... forever. What could go wrong?

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You are no better than those that overreact to COVID.

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You are correct. I am no better. I often have irrational fears. The big difference is that I don't promote those fears and insist all of society cater to my irrational fear.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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fullback44 said:

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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Why does he think the vax game him these spots?

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so heres the rest of the story.... hes never had any type of cancer in his life..

so he got the vaccine about 5 months ago and then got a very severe case of Covid about 4 weeks later after taking the vaccine. he recovered but never fully recovered, he keeps getting flu like symptom stuff every few weeks. His Dr was keeping an eye on him. This week the Dr orders chest Xrays again (2nd round) and see's spot on his lungs and says this doesn't look good we need to send you in for a CT scan... here we are today, hes literally crapping his pants

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I mean, you don't think it was relevant to mention in your first post that your friend had Covid which could explain the spots on his lungs?

No not really, he took the vaccine so it shouldnt be a big deal anymore if he caught Covid...

regardless hes scared out of his mind right now...

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No not really, he took the vaccine so it shouldnt be a big deal anymore if he caught Covid...

regardless hes scared out of his mind right now...

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You were trying to imply that the vaccine caused the spots on his lungs when it was more likely due to Covid.

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fullback44 said:

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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Why does he think the vax game him these spots?

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so heres the rest of the story.... hes never had any type of cancer in his life..

so he got the vaccine about 5 months ago and then got a very severe case of Covid about 4 weeks later after taking the vaccine. he recovered but never fully recovered, he keeps getting flu like symptom stuff every few weeks. His Dr was keeping an eye on him. This week the Dr orders chest Xrays again (2nd round) and see's spot on his lungs and says this doesn't look good we need to send you in for a CT scan... here we are today, hes literally crapping his pants

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Sounds like your friend is dealing with the long term effects of having COVID. Implying that the vaccine is what is causing his issue, while possible, is disingenuous at best.

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fullback44 said:

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fullback44 said:

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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Why does he think the vax game him these spots?

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so heres the rest of the story.... hes never had any type of cancer in his life..

so he got the vaccine about 5 months ago and then got a very severe case of Covid about 4 weeks later after taking the vaccine. he recovered but never fully recovered, he keeps getting flu like symptom stuff every few weeks. His Dr was keeping an eye on him. This week the Dr orders chest Xrays again (2nd round) and see's spot on his lungs and says this doesn't look good we need to send you in for a CT scan... here we are today, hes literally crapping his pants

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Sounds like your friend is dealing with the long term effects of having COVID. Implying that the vaccine is what is causing his issue, while possible, is disingenuous at best.

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well then his Dr is disingenuous.. I am not implying anything as my post above states... dont shoot the messenger, I am just bringing his story over here

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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fullback44 said:

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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Why does he think the vax game him these spots?

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so heres the rest of the story.... hes never had any type of cancer in his life..

so he got the vaccine about 5 months ago and then got a very severe case of Covid about 4 weeks later after taking the vaccine. he recovered but never fully recovered, he keeps getting flu like symptom stuff every few weeks. His Dr was keeping an eye on him. This week the Dr orders chest Xrays again (2nd round) and see's spot on his lungs and says this doesn't look good we need to send you in for a CT scan... here we are today, hes literally crapping his pants

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Most people that have cancer for the first time have never had any type of cancer in their life.

NicosMachine said:

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NicosMachine said:

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But, less chance of the vaccinated having viral loads, since less likely to be infected.

I couldn't imagine being vaccinated and not living like it's 2019.

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The effectiveness of Pfizer falls to 50% after 6 months. In order to assess how fearful you should be of your neighbors, you must know when they were last jabbed. The safest bet is to be in constant fear of everyone ... forever. What could go wrong?

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You are no better than those that overreact to COVID.

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You are correct. I am no better. I often have irrational fears. The big difference is that I don't promote those fears and insist all of society cater to my irrational fear.

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Is anyone on this thread doing that?

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WES2006AG said:

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fullback44 said:

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fullback44 said:

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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Why does he think the vax game him these spots?

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so heres the rest of the story.... hes never had any type of cancer in his life..

so he got the vaccine about 5 months ago and then got a very severe case of Covid about 4 weeks later after taking the vaccine. he recovered but never fully recovered, he keeps getting flu like symptom stuff every few weeks. His Dr was keeping an eye on him. This week the Dr orders chest Xrays again (2nd round) and see's spot on his lungs and says this doesn't look good we need to send you in for a CT scan... here we are today, hes literally crapping his pants

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Sounds like your friend is dealing with the long term effects of having COVID. Implying that the vaccine is what is causing his issue, while possible, is disingenuous at best.

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well then his Dr is disingenuous.. I am not implying anything as my post above states... dont shoot the messenger, I am just bringing his story over here

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Sorry, something is just not adding up here. For someone to develop multifocal lung cancer in such a short period of time would be exceedingly rare (as for as I'm aware). Your friend's doctor should be more concerned about testicular cancer or skin cancer (or many other types of cancers) than lung cancer at this point.

And for your friend's doctor to think the "spots" on his lungs are due to the vaccine, I'm questioning his reasoning. Not sure how he'd deduce that the vaccine could cause multiple "spots" to appear, especially in the context of recovery from a bad covid infection. And seriously, if he really thinks the spots are cancer, and he's not looking for a source outside the lungs, your friend needs a second opinion (or to get this CT done ASAP and then get a second opinion.)


Re: the OP - we've been over this multiple times. Individuals that are vaccinated can have a momentary point in which they have a similar vial load, especially in their noses, to unvaccinated individuals. Their chances of that viral load remaining high, for as long of a period of time as an unvaccinated individual, are substantially lower. Additionally, even if they get infected, they're less likely to have a prolonged illness, less likely to be coughing up everywhere, and less likely to take up a hospital bed. If you don't know what you're talking about, please stop cherry picking things to "prove" that COVID isn't a big deal. We've been hearing it for over a year and a half, and yet here we are.

Do flu vaccinated people fear non-flu vaccinated people? (…because there's a s***ton of these folks every year! …where's the angst and vitriol?)

I find it telling that all the schools I teach for, for example, mandated covid vaccines (for our safety, of course) but have not even mentioned that flu season is coming and no flu vaccine is required. Apparently illness and death from the flu are acceptable.

I'm all for vaccines…but find the continued contradictions infuriating.

Fullback is trolling

fullback44 said:

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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No reason to think they were already watching something since literally nobody has a random chest X-ray without cause…..but continue the breathlessly reported fishy spin.

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fullback44 said:

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So my perfectly healthy friend who took the vaccine 5 months ago now has spots on his lungs and is going in to get a CT scan for cancer... hes starting to think he should have never got the vaccine, hes scared ****less right now and rightfully so. hes literally crapping his pants as this CT scan is set for this week. He had a chest xray before and after the vaccine for some reason and the xray this week confirmed chest spots that recently appeared.. I pray for him

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Why does he think the vax game him these spots?

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so heres the rest of the story.... hes never had any type of cancer in his life..

so he got the vaccine about 5 months ago and then got a very severe case of Covid about 4 weeks later after taking the vaccine. he recovered but never fully recovered, he keeps getting flu like symptom stuff every few weeks. His Dr was keeping an eye on him. This week the Dr orders chest Xrays again (2nd round) and see's spot on his lungs and says this doesn't look good we need to send you in for a CT scan... here we are today, hes literally crapping his pants

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So did he have both shots? A single dose vaccine and why would you act like he has spots on his lungs caused by a vaccine? That's a Grand Canyon sized leap. By the way, what portion of cancer patients were fine without cancer until they got it? Try 100%.

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Fullback is trolling

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the hell I am dude, I am bringing over a real story of a friend of 25 years that is freaking out, he doesn't know if its cancer or not yet, he doesn't even know for sure what its from, his Dr is doing the additional testing and telling him it "may" be from the vaccine or corvid or both..... he has been with this Dr for 20 plus years. I believe he's going to be testing his immune system next week to see where it stands...

I tell you what, as this unfolds, I will know more and more about whats going on with him, 'i will bring it over here .. I have nothing to gain or lose other than bringing his story over here

if you think Im trolling then your sure not very interested in hearing about reality.. its pretty obvious many in this forum dont want to hear anything negative about this.. unfortunately its very very real and happening to people

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Fullback is trolling

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Disagree.

I have no doubt he believes the nonsense he posts. He isn't trolling. I just think He lacks discernment

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Dr. Spaceman said:

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Fullback is trolling

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Disagree.

I have no doubt he believes the nonsense he posts. He isn't trolling. I just think He lacks discernment

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lol... some of you are unbearable, if a post in this forum doesn't fit the party line. it has to be a troll job. just stupid to say the very least ..

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Fullback is trolling

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Disagree.

I have no doubt he believes the nonsense he posts. He isn't trolling. I just think He lacks discernment

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lol... some of you are unbearable, if a post in this forum doesn't fit the party line. it has to be a troll job. just stupid to say the very least ..

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Sounds like f16

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You are correct. I am no better. I often have irrational fears. The big difference is that I don't promote those fears and insist all of society cater to my irrational fear.

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Is anyone on this thread doing that?

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Did I say someone on the thread was doing that? You protest too much.

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No. So why bring that energy to this board? Leave that for the folks you are upset for.