I had a fever and chills for 4 hours. Lawsuit worthy.

Are you really being forced if you can choose to quit?

Charpie said:

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Are you really being forced if you can choose to quit?

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No. It's why a lawsuit would be tossed.

I'm going to sue my own LLC for this. I will show myself whose boss.

Not directed at the op, but I'm quite surprised at how many free market, right to work, anti-union types that think you should be able to sue employers for vaccine mandates.

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I know the drug companies are protected from lawsuits, but what about your job.
If they force the jab and we find out some long term side effect, has your company that forced it effectively become sue-able?

I would also assume that anyone that gets the jab for work could go on short-term disability until the initial side effects go away?

Thoughts?

PS: I have the shots but know others that don't want (or need) them.

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Nobody is being forced. They are not indentured servants and can walk away if it really offends them. Now that it's fda approved corporations are determining it's better for their bottom line to have a vaccinated work force.

Short term disability for 8-12 hours? Is that a real question?

Diet Cokehead said:

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bay fan said:

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012-MAN said:

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I know the drug companies are protected from lawsuits, but what about your job.
If they force the jab and we find out some long term side effect, has your company that forced it effectively become sue-able?

I would also assume that anyone that gets the jab for work could go on short-term disability until the initial side effects go away?

Thoughts?

PS: I have the shots but know others that don't want (or need) them.

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Nobody is being forced. They are not indentured servants and can walk away if it really offends them. Now that it's fda approved corporations are determining it's better for their bottom line to have a vaccinated work force.

Short term disability for 8-12 hours? Is that a real question?

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There is no FDA approved vaccine available in the US. Comirnaty is not available in the US, just the EUA Phizer/BioNTech version.

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Uhhh...

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-comirnatyr-receives-full

The Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved and is marketed as Comirnatyr.

traxter said:

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Not directed at the op, but I'm quite surprised at how many free market, right to work, anti-union types that think you should be able to sue employers for vaccine mandates.

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Yep, we got "libertarians" all over the place who think someone should be paying their unnecessary hospital tabs.

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Diet Cokehead said:

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bay fan said:

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012-MAN said:

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I know the drug companies are protected from lawsuits, but what about your job.
If they force the jab and we find out some long term side effect, has your company that forced it effectively become sue-able?

I would also assume that anyone that gets the jab for work could go on short-term disability until the initial side effects go away?

Thoughts?

PS: I have the shots but know others that don't want (or need) them.

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Nobody is being forced. They are not indentured servants and can walk away if it really offends them. Now that it's fda approved corporations are determining it's better for their bottom line to have a vaccinated work force.

Short term disability for 8-12 hours? Is that a real question?

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There is no FDA approved vaccine available in the US. Comirnaty is not available in the US, just the EUA Phizer/BioNTech version.

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Uhhh...

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-comirnatyr-receives-full

The Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved and is marketed as Comirnatyr.

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Ya but the Twitter post he read it on had red sirens and everything

Charpie said:

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Are you really being forced if you can choose to quit?

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You're free to quit and work for yourself or any other company with less than what 100 employees? Much freedom. Such liberty.

Unless of course the president or some other executive mandates something even more restrictive. But we'd have people here defending that too.

For everyone that says "you are free to quit, so you are not being forced"

Let me expand the question then.
Could a company force all of its employees to be on birth control?

You can quit, so it is allowed?!?

I don't think that is a good comparison. Getting pregnant isn't contagious

012-MAN said:

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For everyone that says "you are free to quit, so you are not being forced"

Let me expand the question then.
Could a company force all of its employees to be on birth control?

You can quit, so it is allowed?!?

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Why are men so focused on analogies that only effect women? Just like the previously suggested rape, discrimination is also illegal for obvious reasons. Good thing sitting next to someone can't get you pregnant. Are you guys purposefully obtuse or just don't understand the differences?

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012-MAN said:

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For everyone that says "you are free to quit, so you are not being forced"

Let me expand the question then.
Could a company force all of its employees to be on birth control?

You can quit, so it is allowed?!?

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Again, you are comparing things that are very clearly legal vs. illegal.

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Legality is a poor measure of morality,and much of what is currently considered "legal" by covidians is clearly outside of the allowances of the Constitution. Just because the court hasn't ruled on something yet doesn't mean it's all on the level.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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ORAggieFan said:

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012-MAN said:

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For everyone that says "you are free to quit, so you are not being forced"

Let me expand the question then.
Could a company force all of its employees to be on birth control?

You can quit, so it is allowed?!?

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Again, you are comparing things that are very clearly legal vs. illegal.

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Legality is a poor measure of morality,and much of what is currently considered "legal" by covidians is clearly outside of the allowances of the Constitution. Just because the court hasn't ruled on something yet doesn't mean it's all on the level.

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The question posted by the OP was about the law, so using the law to answer is pretty much the only way to do it properly.

Vaccine mandates have been upheld by the Supreme Court for over 100 years. Please explain what in the constitution SCOTUS has got wrong.

ETA I'm against mandates. I just understand the law and am OK applying it.

Then you should also know that medical and religious exemptions are necessary (in order to avoid medical / religious discrimination) and that natural immunity has precedent as an exemption, too.

The specifics of each policy would matter.

And that is all a massive concession toward 'the way things work' as opposed to the structure and intent our constitution established. Incremental *******ization has gotten us well beyond the limits of anything that should be considered reasonable.

I understand all of it. None of it is relevant to the question asked.

You and others want this board to be what it's not and try and skew answers to a question to prove your silly points.