What are the residents thoughts on this solution. Will it be more broad preventing or impacted by variation? Riskiness of the tech?
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It's the vax all the smart, think-for-themselves, research based docs have been waiting for. Traditional vax made from a benign portion of actual Covid designed to build immunity the traditional way.
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What is the difference between this and J&J?
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What is the difference between this and J&J?
J&j used a virus to get the genetic material that is used by your ribosomes to manufacture the spike protein into your cell. Your cells then manufacture a bunch of the spike protein
End result, you have a bunch of spike proteins floating around your body.
Novavax uses cells from moths to produce a bunch of spike proteins in a lab. They then isolate those spike proteins and inject them into your body.
End result, you have a munch of spike proteins floating around in your body.
Novavax has a secret sauce that is extrated from the bark of a tree. Through a mechanism I don't fullly understand, This substance enhances your immune response and requires few spike proteins to illicit a similar response level.
It is interesting tech that seems to work.
I'm confused by the OP.
If they took a vaccine then they are vaccinated.
Are you suggesting that people that go out and get a vaccine should be sorted into tiers?
If someone comes to the US from Russia are they no longer considered vaccinated because they didn't take the Pfizer?
This is the insanity that sparked all of these protests and resulted in stalled vaccination rates.
If they took a vaccine then they are vaccinated.
Are you suggesting that people that go out and get a vaccine should be sorted into tiers?
If someone comes to the US from Russia are they no longer considered vaccinated because they didn't take the Pfizer?
This is the insanity that sparked all of these protests and resulted in stalled vaccination rates.
Not suggesting anything. Just stating that before now the folks in the trial were not considered vaccinated. Now they are. Novavax is still in approval process and not available to everyone.
I'm just asking here any expert thoughts on its performance relative to other jabs.
I'm just asking here any expert thoughts on its performance relative to other jabs.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/us-clinical-trial-results-show-novavax-vaccine-safe-prevents-covid-19sweet00 said:
Not suggesting anything. Just stating that before now the folks in the trial were not considered vaccinated. Now they are. Novavax is still in approval process and not available to everyone.
I'm just asking here any expert thoughts on its performance relative to other jabs.
Phase 3 trials showed good efficacy
Looks like really mild symptoms just from shot too which is nice.
which makes sense. It's not programming your cells to make anything. It's just harvested spike protein attached to an adjuvant which has the purpose of signaling the immune system to respond. It also doesn't require super cooled storage.
What's the realistic timeline on this?
Good data so far but not sure how much data was gathered during alpha vs delta waves.
I'm glad to see they already have 12+ year olde enrolled although only 2200 patients. It would be nice to have options without the risk of myocarditis in teens.
This tech sounds very similar to most new vaccines like Prevnar and Gardisil.
I'm glad to see they already have 12+ year olde enrolled although only 2200 patients. It would be nice to have options without the risk of myocarditis in teens.
This tech sounds very similar to most new vaccines like Prevnar and Gardisil.
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Except not really.Bonfire1996 said:
It's the vax all the smart, think-for-themselves, research based docs have been waiting for. Traditional vax made from a benign portion of actual Covid designed to build immunity the traditional way.
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What's the realistic timeline on this?
My doctor thinks it will be available after the first of the year. Not sure if he knows or is just guessing.
He's guessing based on the same info as the rest of us who have followed Novavax.Jbob04 said:Killin Me Smalls said:
What's the realistic timeline on this?
My doctor thinks it will be available after the first of the year. Not sure if he knows or is just guessing.
Was supposed to go for EUA in May. Got pushed to June then July. Then they punted to late Q3 and then pushed to Q4...
So guessing availability after the first of the year is the safe bet based on the info we know today.
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
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Is this the one being produced in College Station?
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Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
Crazy thought here: stop trying to control / manipulate / coerce others and let them do what they want.El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
All of the Latinos I know are vaccinated. Granted I grew up in a middle class predominantly Hispanic area that was absolutely devastated by the virus before the vaccine were available. So they all rushed out to get it.
I am not close enough to the black experience to provide any insight.
I see a LOT of poor minority families that refuse COVID vaccine. It is so odd that the two major demographics that refuse vaccines are poor minorities and white conservatives.Duncan Idaho said:El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
All of the Latinos I know are vaccinated. Granted I grew up in a middle class predominantly Hispanic area that was absolutely devastated by the virus before the vaccine were available. So they all rushed out to get it.
I am not close enough to the black experience to provide any insight.
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Oh, I agree with you. There should be zero mandates regarding anything Covid 19. The guy I quoted, I'll assume he is very pro mask and vax mandates.Get Off My Lawn said:Crazy thought here: stop trying to control / manipulate / coerce others and let them do what they want.El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
I know we're not supposed to get political, since covid is not a political subject, but do you think there will ever be vax mandates for food stamps (or whatever they're called now) or other taxpayer funded 'social' programs?KidDoc said:I see a LOT of poor minority families that refuse COVID vaccine. It is so odd that the two major demographics that refuse vaccines are poor minorities and white conservatives.Duncan Idaho said:El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
All of the Latinos I know are vaccinated. Granted I grew up in a middle class predominantly Hispanic area that was absolutely devastated by the virus before the vaccine were available. So they all rushed out to get it.
I am not close enough to the black experience to provide any insight.
KidDoc said:I see a LOT of poor minority families that refuse COVID vaccine. It is so odd that the two major demographics that refuse vaccines are poor minorities and white conservatives.Duncan Idaho said:El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
All of the Latinos I know are vaccinated. Granted I grew up in a middle class predominantly Hispanic area that was absolutely devastated by the virus before the vaccine were available. So they all rushed out to get it.
I am not close enough to the black experience to provide any insight.
And PHDs
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/
Nope.El Chupacabra said:I know we're not supposed to get political, since covid is not a political subject, but do you think there will ever be vax mandates for food stamps (or whatever they're called now) or other taxpayer funded 'social' programs?KidDoc said:I see a LOT of poor minority families that refuse COVID vaccine. It is so odd that the two major demographics that refuse vaccines are poor minorities and white conservatives.Duncan Idaho said:El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
All of the Latinos I know are vaccinated. Granted I grew up in a middle class predominantly Hispanic area that was absolutely devastated by the virus before the vaccine were available. So they all rushed out to get it.
I am not close enough to the black experience to provide any insight.
The left would never pass something like that as it would be viewed as racists and restricting benefits. The right would never pass a mandate.
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Yeah people love to trot that study out but there is no information about what they are PHDs in. I do know 96%+ of medical doctors are vaccinated.harge57 said:KidDoc said:I see a LOT of poor minority families that refuse COVID vaccine. It is so odd that the two major demographics that refuse vaccines are poor minorities and white conservatives.Duncan Idaho said:El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
All of the Latinos I know are vaccinated. Granted I grew up in a middle class predominantly Hispanic area that was absolutely devastated by the virus before the vaccine were available. So they all rushed out to get it.
I am not close enough to the black experience to provide any insight.
And PHDs
All the PHD parents I see are vaccinated but they are mostly STEMI.
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I'd like to see that info, too. Most of the PhDs I know are crazy professor types I'd never really rely on for actual medical info. My uncle is one who has a PhD in business and believes in all kinds of alt-med strangeness. They tend to be very highly focused on one thing, and then think they know a lot about everything, imho.KidDoc said:Yeah people love to trot that study out but there is no information about what they are PHDs in. I do know 96%+ of medical doctors are vaccinated.harge57 said:KidDoc said:I see a LOT of poor minority families that refuse COVID vaccine. It is so odd that the two major demographics that refuse vaccines are poor minorities and white conservatives.Duncan Idaho said:El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
All of the Latinos I know are vaccinated. Granted I grew up in a middle class predominantly Hispanic area that was absolutely devastated by the virus before the vaccine were available. So they all rushed out to get it.
I am not close enough to the black experience to provide any insight.
And PHDs
All the PHD parents I see are vaccinated but they are mostly STEMI.
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It doesn't state what the people with Masters are educated in either.
They are not saying medical doctors are hesitant. It's saying people with PHDs are hesitant. Medical doctors are obviously in a very high risk group for exposure and most have pretty much been mandated to take one.
It is a very odd phenomenon of who is reluctant to take the vaccine just like you stated earlier.
I won't take it as I have natural antibodies and am a healthy young adult. No reason to introduce another factor IMO. I am also very reluctant to take a Tylenol though so...
They are not saying medical doctors are hesitant. It's saying people with PHDs are hesitant. Medical doctors are obviously in a very high risk group for exposure and most have pretty much been mandated to take one.
It is a very odd phenomenon of who is reluctant to take the vaccine just like you stated earlier.
I won't take it as I have natural antibodies and am a healthy young adult. No reason to introduce another factor IMO. I am also very reluctant to take a Tylenol though so...
The jokes just write themselves.GeographyAg said:I'd like to see that info, too. Most of the PhDs I know are crazy professor types I'd never really rely on for actual medical info. My uncle is one who has a PhD in business and believes in all kinds of alt-med strangeness. They tend to be very highly focused on one thing, and then think they know a lot about everything, imho.KidDoc said:Yeah people love to trot that study out but there is no information about what they are PHDs in. I do know 96%+ of medical doctors are vaccinated.harge57 said:KidDoc said:I see a LOT of poor minority families that refuse COVID vaccine. It is so odd that the two major demographics that refuse vaccines are poor minorities and white conservatives.Duncan Idaho said:El Chupacabra said:What about the blacks and 'Latins'? What's it going to take to get them to take the vaccine?Duncan Idaho said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Pretty sure this isn't going to move the needle for black Americans, latin americans, or healthy young conservatives for whom this has now developed into a freedom issue.
Not all of this group by any means but I think a non zreo number of them will rationalize waiting to take this vaccine as meeting their commitment to protecting their freedoms and that they are taking this vaccine by choice, not mandate. After all they aren't anti-vax, they are anti-this(Pfizer, moderna,j&j)-vax.
All of the Latinos I know are vaccinated. Granted I grew up in a middle class predominantly Hispanic area that was absolutely devastated by the virus before the vaccine were available. So they all rushed out to get it.
I am not close enough to the black experience to provide any insight.
And PHDs
All the PHD parents I see are vaccinated but they are mostly STEMI.
I dunno Zobel why would you exclude people on a facebook survey that self-identify as attack helicopters? Seems legit...Zobel said:
https://coronavirus.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-PhDs-are-the-most-vaccine-resistant-group-https-www-nationalreview-com-corner-the-most-vaccine-hesita-1
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The 8 PhD's on my team are all vaccinated, and we're all early adapters.
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I'm much more likely to take a vaccine that uses traditional mechanisms for immune response. My natural immunity should last be a year or two longer to see if this how this performs in longer trials.